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New hall of justice is pretty cool. I didn't think they'd be able to to make a cooler HQ than the watchtower,but this new hall is impressive.


Now I wish they would stop spending page after page talking about the good old days and just get on with telling some stories.


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i think there finally gonna do that. i agree though, the new hall looks nice. i couldnt help but to hear the super friends music when i saw it the first time.


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According to Brad Meltzer there is a mistake in Justice League of America #7

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From Brian's Myspace Blog:

Mistake in JLA 7

Wish this weren't so, but just found out there's a misplaced page in JLA 7. Thanks to an extra ad, Page 30, for some reason, runs before page 26. It oddly still somehow reads okay (kinda), but for the optimum reading experience, there's how it should go. (The whole Star City scene should read together). Sorry for that one.

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New hall of justice is pretty cool. I didn't think they'd be able to to make a cooler HQ than the watchtower,but this new hall is impressive.




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Spoilers.


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New hall of justice is pretty cool. I didn't think they'd be able to to make a cooler HQ than the watchtower,but this new hall is impressive.




Agreed, after being stationed in space how can the league possibly go back?

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The pages were out of order Dammnit. It took me 5 minutes just to try to read the pages in the proper order...

This series is truly fanwank . Much like JSA.

I can't read shit like this anymore...


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...then dont...


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theres no way in hell he gets voted into the league...


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they let Hal Jordan back in.


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and Gnort.


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This series is truly fanwank . Much like JSA.




At least the new JSA book is a fun read, and I've never even liked that team. This issue of JLA was wank after wank. If he doesn't stop this, Meltzer is gonna go blind.


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The needing to the first arc was lame. I mean, oh Christ, Red Tornado is a robot again. Boy did that come out of left field.


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This is above and beyond fanwank. This is more like "I grew up watching cartoons with Alex Ross" creator spooge.

I'm surprised the pages weren't stuck together.

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Yeah.


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You know, the funny thing is that I'm not that much older than Meltzer. I grew up watching "SuperFriends". I grew up reading "the Justice League of America," not "Justice League," not "Justice League International," not "JLA".

So you would think I'd be the target for this book.

But I think its crap.

First, there's the fact that, even as a kid, I thought a satellite was a thousand times cooler than a "Hall of Justice."

Then there's the fact that half the fucking book is talking, when a JLA book should be all-out fast action, with giant menaces that one hero alone can't handle.

Come on, guys, it isn't that hard. Morrison did it. Dini and Timm did with JLU. Even Ross SEEMS to be attempting it with "Justice". Why can't DC realize that a superhero teamup book is supposed to be the equivalent of a big budget action movie, not a talky independent film?

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I also can't believe they are using Red Tornado-he completely sucks.

I have no problem with the rest of the lineup. Maybe John Stewart instead of Hal woulda been more appropriate.


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The actual characters are fine. Even the villain line-up was good. But chopping up Amazo's legs with a bat-laser was not exactly mind-blowing. (To stop him from running as fast as the Flash! Never mind Amazo could have run out of the way quicker that Batman could have pressed the on-button.)

Superman should have used heat vision to sever Grundy's head. Or have Arsenal take his eyes out with grenade arrows. Or have GL drop Amazo into the orbit of Antares (reputedly the star Krypton once circled) using the power ring to open a portal through space. Where was the "you fuck with one of us and we'll fuck with you" clincher?

Red Tornado should have actually died. Amazo should have replaced him in the line-up. I would have bought the tpb if that had happened.


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You know, the funny thing is that I'm not that much older than Meltzer. I grew up watching "SuperFriends". I grew up reading "the Justice League of America," not "Justice League," not "Justice League International," not "JLA".

So you would think I'd be the target for this book.

But I think its crap.

First, there's the fact that, even as a kid, I thought a satellite was a thousand times cooler than a "Hall of Justice."

Then there's the fact that half the fucking book is talking, when a JLA book should be all-out fast action, with giant menaces that one hero alone can't handle.

Come on, guys, it isn't that hard. Morrison did it. Dini and Timm did with JLU. Even Ross SEEMS to be attempting it with "Justice". Why can't DC realize that a superhero teamup book is supposed to be the equivalent of a big budget action movie, not a talky independent film?




How old are you "old man" I was reading JLoA around issues 185-200 myself?


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Forty-two.

The first issue I remember owning was issue number 87, which was already part of the satellite era:



But I didn't actively collect the book (that is, seek out each issue) until about issue 106:



Which just happened to be the issue that Red Tornado officially joined the League.


Thereafter, I purchased nearly every issue up to and including 185



Meaning I was there the first time Hawkgirl joined, when Zatanna joined and even the time that the Secret Society traded bodies with the League (a major point in Identity Crisis).

I came back for issue 200



But after that, didn't really buy the book again.

So, with all that, you'd think a book full of fanboy wank for the seventies era JLA would be right up my alley.

Unfortunately, Metzler's overly talky, deriviatve, work is less a fun ride back to the League of my youth and more an sad exercise in watching someone clumsily exploit a shared childhood memory.

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Ahhhhhhhhhh, makes sense. I was more of a marvel fan, but I did buy the JLoA, and those digests and treasury sized books. I didn't start getting into DC until New Teen Titans, Captain Carrot, and moreso around Crisis.

I think I will buy the JLA/JSA crossover coming up just to see how much Johns and Meltzer can collectively such each others cocks and wank off to the same shared childhood memories.


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I like both wanking and exploitation. . .


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Meltzer doesn't seem to be able to block out action sequences terribly well. that's probably why there's been so little of it in the book.

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That's true with a lot of these "serious writers" who are dabbling in comics these days. They write decent dialogue but are completely incapable of writing action. Unfortunately, comics are a visual medium and the superhero genre is action-oriented, meaning that we get more and more books are just guys in spandex who talk a lot.

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Guys in spandex who talk a lot and not enough action, what else does that sound like...


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ah, but you see Bendis is perfectly capable of handling action when not weighed down with a poor artist (I'm looking at you, David Finch). Mighty Avengers #1 is an excellent blend of action and story.

another example is the issue of New Avengers where they fought The Wrecker. damn good action there. unlike the Finch drawn issues which are unclear as to what's happening.

there are other examples of poor action scenes. Civil War and Infinite Crisis both being big examples of writers pretty much just saying "big fight scenes with everybody in them. . ."

but Meltzer, especially, seems to have difficulty pacing out action scenes. I'm thinking not only of the JLA's fight with Amazo, but also of Identity Crisis and the infamous JLA vs. Deathstroke battle which confused many people.

action is not his forte.

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You do read his blog!

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thats too steep a price for many...


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So thoughts on Roy as "Red Arrow", yay? Nay?

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ill say yay for now...but im sure they'll gay it up somehow.


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Its the reach-around for Kingdom Come.

I started reading JLoA from about Zatanna's search for her mother (Wizard of Ys) - don't remember the issue through to issue 200. Read the first few issues of JL Detroit but gave it up quickly.


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This series is truly fanwank . Much like JSA.

I can't read shit like this anymore...




Maybe you'd like it better if it was dreawn by your hero JOHN BYRNE!



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This series is truly fanwank . Much like JSA.

I can't read shit like this anymore...




Maybe you'd like it better if it was dreawn by your hero JOHN BYRNE!







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or, y'know drawn by him.


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