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 Originally Posted By: Pariah
Alright, since I'm such a nice guy, I'll give Danny a hint.

Now Danny, what exactly did those quotes you pulled proceed? Mull over this one carefully 'cuz I know it's pretty easy for you to miss.


Is this another one of those syllogisms that you pull out of your ass? Cause I'm not intrested in chasing shadows as part of your cowardly denial.

If there was any real substance to it you'd post it yourself.

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 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
Alright, since I'm such a nice guy, I'll give Danny a hint.

Now Danny, what exactly did those quotes you pulled proceed? Mull over this one carefully 'cuz I know it's pretty easy for you to miss.


Is this another one of those syllogisms that you pull out of your ass? Cause I'm not intrested in chasing shadows as part of your cowardly denial.

If there was any real substance to it you'd post it yourself.


Indeed. Do not enable him.

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 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Is this another one of those syllogisms that you pull out of your ass? Cause I'm not intrested in chasing shadows as part of your cowardly denial.

If there was any real substance to it you'd post it yourself.


No. No syllogisms Danny. I promise.

All you have to do is figure out the chronology of the quotes you posted. Like, for instance, what came before and after them.

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 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Is this another one of those syllogisms that you pull out of your ass? Cause I'm not intrested in chasing shadows as part of your cowardly denial.

If there was any real substance to it you'd post it yourself.


No. No syllogisms Danny. I promise.

All you have to do is figure out the chronology of the quotes you posted. Like, for instance, what came before and after them.


This subterfuge shows that you are afraid to put your cards down on the table.

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 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Is this another one of those syllogisms that you pull out of your ass? Cause I'm not intrested in chasing shadows as part of your cowardly denial.

If there was any real substance to it you'd post it yourself.


No. No syllogisms Danny. I promise.

All you have to do is figure out the chronology of the quotes you posted. Like, for instance, what came before and after them.


Son, even I know when to quit.

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 Originally Posted By: Dr Fate
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Is this another one of those syllogisms that you pull out of your ass? Cause I'm not intrested in chasing shadows as part of your cowardly denial.

If there was any real substance to it you'd post it yourself.


No. No syllogisms Danny. I promise.

All you have to do is figure out the chronology of the quotes you posted. Like, for instance, what came before and after them.


This subterfuge shows that you are afraid to put your cards down on the table.


Stop just standing there and help Danny dammit! He's racking his brain trying to figure this out!

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 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dr Fate
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Is this another one of those syllogisms that you pull out of your ass? Cause I'm not intrested in chasing shadows as part of your cowardly denial.

If there was any real substance to it you'd post it yourself.


No. No syllogisms Danny. I promise.

All you have to do is figure out the chronology of the quotes you posted. Like, for instance, what came before and after them.


This subterfuge shows that you are afraid to put your cards down on the table.


Stop just standing there and help Danny dammit! He's racking his brain trying to figure this out!



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*sigh* I gave you a chance to turn back Danny. Just know that much.

 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
So you can't be the aggressor cause your board is filled with a aggressive posters?


Exactly. We kept to ourselves doing what we usually do because that's our local custom.

On the other hand, you came here for the exact purpose of changing our morality and verbal traditions. That would make you the aggressors.


To which Danny replied:

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
This is weak.

You guys ganged up on Whomod so we came. We don't care about your stupid traditions anymore then you care for our rules.


And so:

 Originally Posted By: Pariah
Apparently you do since you're coming here for the sake of someone who's been here for years and can attest to the nature of this place. And yet, even after the thorough understanding of what a person must put up with if they decide to stay here, you still feel there's warrant to come here for the sake of justice. The problem here is that your definition of justice seems to be wholly different from ours.

We've already explained that you're no different from anyone else on this board in the way you interact with other posters, but all the same you still feel that you're a unique snowflake falling on this wasteland of ours.


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
By this logic you care about our rules cause you bitch about them.

It's a basic action/reaction thing. Deal with it.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
I don't bitch about them. I say you're stupid for pretending they're relevant.

You don't have to react to us, and yet you choose to.


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
That's bitching.

We chose to react to your aggressions. That much is true.

*IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT HE EDITED THAT SECOND SENTENCE IN*


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
All that means is that you pick and choose what scenario qualifies as "bitching" according to what's convenient for you.


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You've said multiple times are rules are stupid. Bitching.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
Actually, it's just a statement of fact.

If I actually went over to your boards and then petitioned you through spam and alts to change your rules, due to them being stupid, then that would qualify as "bitching."



Now here's where we switch from Danny to Daniel!

 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
By this logic you care about our rules cause you bitch about them.

It's a basic action/reaction thing. Deal with it.


I don't bitch about them. I say you're stupid for pretending they're relevant.

You don't have to react to us, and yet you choose to.


Hello kettle? This is the pot. You're black.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
You've misused the phrase; I don't have a rules to contradict here and I haven't migrated to your board to give you lectures.


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Pariah is claiming to own a phrase probaly older then everyone on this board? No wonder he's gotta go after minors.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
How exactly does stating the proper use of the phrase qualify as me saying that I own it?


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You don't get to decide that. The basic message of the phrase was clear.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
His intent was clear based on the context of the situation, but that doesn't mean his message was clear. Because he made an erroneous comparison between my intentions and the Insurgency intentions, his point made no sense. In which case, he misused the phrase and made an ass out of himself.


 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
You've misused the phrase; I don't have a rules to contradict here and I haven't migrated to your board to give you lectures.


Actually, friend, I'm paraphrasing its usage from a once popular television program (Friends, if you're feeling froggy). So I didn't, in point of fact, misuse the phrase. Perhaps if you got off the computer every so often and socialized with non-fuck wits you'd learn something...and maybe you'd stop trying to fuck minors. But I kind of doubt it.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
What does you paraphrasing it have to do with the fact that you've misjudged the propriety of its use?

The phrase has been around longer than Friends.


To which Danny cleverly replied with:

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Because he didn't. You're a reaching.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
Actually, he did. I explained specifically that he misinterpreted my intentions for posting on messageboards for his own and therefore his attempt at being witty failed. No reaching has been done.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
Don't assume. It makes an ass out of you, not me.


There are no assumptions. As I said, and Dan agrees, your intent was clear. Your execution was not.


 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
By this logic you care about our rules cause you bitch about them.

It's a basic action/reaction thing. Deal with it.


I don't bitch about them. I say you're stupid for pretending they're relevant.

You don't have to react to us, and yet you choose to.


Once again, .

You are in this very conversation doing the thing you are accusing the Insurgents of doing (that'd be reacting to us, whilst feigning to be above such things), therefore you are the kettle. You, good sir, are black. Figuratively speaking, anyway.

PS I win. That's how it's done around here, right?


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
Once again, .

You are in this very conversation doing the thing you are accusing the Insurgents of doing (that'd be reacting to us, whilst feigning to be above such things), therefore you are the kettle. You, good sir, are black. Figuratively speaking, anyway.

PS I win. That's how it's done around here, right?


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
You've misused the phrase; I don't have a rules to contradict here and I haven't migrated to your board to give you lectures.


I come here to post. I'm posting.

I don't come here to go to your board in reaction to your "rules."

Thank you for playing.


And then he torches my ass with:

 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview

Straw man. No wonder you guys "win" all of your arguments here. You cheat.


WHOA!!

 Originally Posted By: Pariah
No strawman was used. I let your words speak for themselves and I responded to them.

I deflect your strawman.


And Danny was just so incredibly witty with:

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Of course you do


 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
Seek help. Seriously.

Carefully presenting and refuting a weakened form of an opponent's argument is not always itself a fallacy. It can refocus the scope of an argument or be a legitimate step of a proof by exhaustion. In contrast the straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern:

1. Person A has position X.

2. Person B ignores X and instead presents position Y. Y is a distorted version of X and can be set up in several ways, including:

1. Presenting a misrepresentation of the opponent's position and then refuting it, thus giving the appearance that the opponent's actual position has been refuted.
2. Quoting an opponent's words out of context -- i.e., choosing quotations that are not representative of the opponent's actual intentions (see contextomy and quote mining).
3. Presenting someone who defends a position poorly as the defender and then refuting that person's arguments, thus giving the appearance that every upholder of that position, and thus the position itself, has been defeated.[1]
4. Inventing a fictitious persona with actions or beliefs that are criticized, such that the person represents a group of whom the speaker is critical.
5. Oversimplifying an opponent's argument, then attacking the simplified version.


3. Person B attacks position Y.

4. Person B draws a conclusion that X is false/incorrect/flawed. This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
I used your exact quote and I responded to it with a direct statement. Not an interpretation of your meaning. You're floundering.


And then after all this conversation with mainly me formulating the arguments, Danny very smartly observes.

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You say that, but you never manage to come up with anything other than denial as a retort. That's why I said you proved Doc's point before. BTW, Doc has always been right.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
There has been no denial. I have specifically pointed out the difference between responding to posters on your home board versus migrating to another board to tell the posters there that they are evil immoral individuals that are going to hell.

I'm sure you'd like that to be a strawman, but it's not.


And then, of course:

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You say that, but you never manage to come up with anything other than denial as a retort. That's why I said you proved Doc's point before. BTW, Doc has always been right.


There has been no denial. I have specifically pointed out the difference between responding to posters on your home board versus migrating to another board to tell the posters there that they are evil immoral individuals that are going to hell.

I'm sure you'd like that to be a strawman, but it's not.


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No guilt, no weakness, no contradictions. Just your own bias.


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Actually, it doesn't. Try again.


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No guilt, no weakness, no contradictions. Just your own bias.


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There has been no denial.


I'm sensing a pattern here...


Which are abridged quotes that precede and proceed full responses in other respective posts that have nothing to do with Daniel or our original conversations.

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Danny's response:

"This is weak! You're reaching! I broke you!! I BROKE YOU DAMMIT!! I BROKE YOU!!!"

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 Originally Posted By: Pariah
*sigh* I gave you a chance to turn back Danny. Just know that much.

 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
So you can't be the aggressor cause your board is filled with a aggressive posters?


Exactly. We kept to ourselves doing what we usually do because that's our local custom.

On the other hand, you came here for the exact purpose of changing our morality and verbal traditions. That would make you the aggressors.


To which Danny replied:

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
This is weak.

You guys ganged up on Whomod so we came. We don't care about your stupid traditions anymore then you care for our rules.


And so:

 Originally Posted By: Pariah
Apparently you do since you're coming here for the sake of someone who's been here for years and can attest to the nature of this place. And yet, even after the thorough understanding of what a person must put up with if they decide to stay here, you still feel there's warrant to come here for the sake of justice. The problem here is that your definition of justice seems to be wholly different from ours.

We've already explained that you're no different from anyone else on this board in the way you interact with other posters, but all the same you still feel that you're a unique snowflake falling on this wasteland of ours.


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
By this logic you care about our rules cause you bitch about them.

It's a basic action/reaction thing. Deal with it.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
I don't bitch about them. I say you're stupid for pretending they're relevant.

You don't have to react to us, and yet you choose to.


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
That's bitching.

We chose to react to your aggressions. That much is true.

*IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT HE EDITED THAT SECOND SENTENCE IN*


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
All that means is that you pick and choose what scenario qualifies as "bitching" according to what's convenient for you.


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You've said multiple times are rules are stupid. Bitching.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
Actually, it's just a statement of fact.

If I actually went over to your boards and then petitioned you through spam and alts to change your rules, due to them being stupid, then that would qualify as "bitching."



Now here's where we switch from Danny to Daniel!

 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
By this logic you care about our rules cause you bitch about them.

It's a basic action/reaction thing. Deal with it.


I don't bitch about them. I say you're stupid for pretending they're relevant.

You don't have to react to us, and yet you choose to.


Hello kettle? This is the pot. You're black.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
You've misused the phrase; I don't have a rules to contradict here and I haven't migrated to your board to give you lectures.


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Pariah is claiming to own a phrase probaly older then everyone on this board? No wonder he's gotta go after minors.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
How exactly does stating the proper use of the phrase qualify as me saying that I own it?


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You don't get to decide that. The basic message of the phrase was clear.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
His intent was clear based on the context of the situation, but that doesn't mean his message was clear. Because he made an erroneous comparison between my intentions and the Insurgency intentions, his point made no sense. In which case, he misused the phrase and made an ass out of himself.


 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
You've misused the phrase; I don't have a rules to contradict here and I haven't migrated to your board to give you lectures.


Actually, friend, I'm paraphrasing its usage from a once popular television program (Friends, if you're feeling froggy). So I didn't, in point of fact, misuse the phrase. Perhaps if you got off the computer every so often and socialized with non-fuck wits you'd learn something...and maybe you'd stop trying to fuck minors. But I kind of doubt it.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
What does you paraphrasing it have to do with the fact that you've misjudged the propriety of its use?

The phrase has been around longer than Friends.


To which Danny cleverly replied with:

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Because he didn't. You're a reaching.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
Actually, he did. I explained specifically that he misinterpreted my intentions for posting on messageboards for his own and therefore his attempt at being witty failed. No reaching has been done.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
Don't assume. It makes an ass out of you, not me.


There are no assumptions. As I said, and Dan agrees, your intent was clear. Your execution was not.


 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
By this logic you care about our rules cause you bitch about them.

It's a basic action/reaction thing. Deal with it.


I don't bitch about them. I say you're stupid for pretending they're relevant.

You don't have to react to us, and yet you choose to.


Once again, .

You are in this very conversation doing the thing you are accusing the Insurgents of doing (that'd be reacting to us, whilst feigning to be above such things), therefore you are the kettle. You, good sir, are black. Figuratively speaking, anyway.

PS I win. That's how it's done around here, right?


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
Once again, .

You are in this very conversation doing the thing you are accusing the Insurgents of doing (that'd be reacting to us, whilst feigning to be above such things), therefore you are the kettle. You, good sir, are black. Figuratively speaking, anyway.

PS I win. That's how it's done around here, right?


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
You've misused the phrase; I don't have a rules to contradict here and I haven't migrated to your board to give you lectures.


I come here to post. I'm posting.

I don't come here to go to your board in reaction to your "rules."

Thank you for playing.


And then he torches my ass with:

 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview

Straw man. No wonder you guys "win" all of your arguments here. You cheat.


WHOA!!

 Originally Posted By: Pariah
No strawman was used. I let your words speak for themselves and I responded to them.

I deflect your strawman.


And Danny was just so incredibly witty with:

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Of course you do


 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
Seek help. Seriously.

Carefully presenting and refuting a weakened form of an opponent's argument is not always itself a fallacy. It can refocus the scope of an argument or be a legitimate step of a proof by exhaustion. In contrast the straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern:

1. Person A has position X.

2. Person B ignores X and instead presents position Y. Y is a distorted version of X and can be set up in several ways, including:

1. Presenting a misrepresentation of the opponent's position and then refuting it, thus giving the appearance that the opponent's actual position has been refuted.
2. Quoting an opponent's words out of context -- i.e., choosing quotations that are not representative of the opponent's actual intentions (see contextomy and quote mining).
3. Presenting someone who defends a position poorly as the defender and then refuting that person's arguments, thus giving the appearance that every upholder of that position, and thus the position itself, has been defeated.[1]
4. Inventing a fictitious persona with actions or beliefs that are criticized, such that the person represents a group of whom the speaker is critical.
5. Oversimplifying an opponent's argument, then attacking the simplified version.


3. Person B attacks position Y.

4. Person B draws a conclusion that X is false/incorrect/flawed. This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
I used your exact quote and I responded to it with a direct statement. Not an interpretation of your meaning. You're floundering.


And then after all this conversation with mainly me formulating the arguments, Danny very smartly observes.

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You say that, but you never manage to come up with anything other than denial as a retort. That's why I said you proved Doc's point before. BTW, Doc has always been right.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
There has been no denial. I have specifically pointed out the difference between responding to posters on your home board versus migrating to another board to tell the posters there that they are evil immoral individuals that are going to hell.

I'm sure you'd like that to be a strawman, but it's not.


And then, of course:

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You say that, but you never manage to come up with anything other than denial as a retort. That's why I said you proved Doc's point before. BTW, Doc has always been right.


There has been no denial. I have specifically pointed out the difference between responding to posters on your home board versus migrating to another board to tell the posters there that they are evil immoral individuals that are going to hell.

I'm sure you'd like that to be a strawman, but it's not.


 Quote:
No guilt, no weakness, no contradictions. Just your own bias.


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Actually, it doesn't. Try again.


 Quote:
No guilt, no weakness, no contradictions. Just your own bias.


 Quote:
There has been no denial.


I'm sensing a pattern here...


Which are abridged quotes that precede and proceed full responses in other respective posts that have nothing to do with Daniel or our original conversations.


It is as I suspected. A red-herring that has nothing to do with the Pariah's denial. This is nothing but a desperate ploy in the hopes no one will read through a long post. Pariah doesn't even quote my conversation with him where the denials took place.

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 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You say that, but you never manage to come up with anything other than denial as a retort. That's why I said you proved Doc's point before. BTW, Doc has always been right.


Is he right Doctor Fate? Can it be true!?

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 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You say that, but you never manage to come up with anything other than denial as a retort. That's why I said you proved Doc's point before. BTW, Doc has always been right.


Is he right Doctor Fate? Can it be true!?


Yes, it is.

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 Originally Posted By: Pariah
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The typed carries as much meaning as that of the spoken word.


Actually, it doesn't. Try again.

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In the abstract sense though, typed words have just as much consequence for they have demanded a reaction from you.


Sorry Confucius, but your "pedophile" cat-calls haven't, and won't, make me lose sleep.

That sounds more like your own personal character flaw.

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Hey "Pariah," allow me to let you in on a little secret: Nobody gives a shit about you here. You're getting ripped to shreds at every turn. Where are your friends? Who will stand with you against us? No one. You have been thrown to the dogs. We will feast upon your carcass until until the bones remain. Leave this place.

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 Originally Posted By: Dr Fate
Yes, it is.


And yet Danny was wrong. As you can see, Daniel and Danny both had their hands full trying to come up with terse comments to my full fledged arguments throughout this thread.

Poor Doctor Fate.

Define subjectivity for me. Tell me again what the weight of words are upon all people's psyches and then tell me how one can refute something that's simply a lie through and through.

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 Originally Posted By: Rellik
Hey "Pariah," allow me to let you in on a little secret: Nobody gives a shit about you here. You're getting ripped to shreds at every turn. Where are your friends? Who will stand with you against us? No one. You have been thrown to the dogs. We will feast upon your carcass until until the bones remain. Leave this place.


It is alright Rellik. Pariah is akin to a Ourobus. He will destroy himself.

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Or I'll just expand like the blob!

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 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dr Fate
Yes, it is.


Define subjectivity for me. Tell me again what the weight of words are upon all people's psyches and then tell me how one can refute something that's simply a lie through and through.


What you don't understand Pariah, it is not my words that incriminate you. It is your own and how they stray from the topic at hand.

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Yeah I have pretty much no idea what any of that has to do with Pariah's denial. Those aren't even the same quotes that I posted.

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 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dr Fate
Yes, it is.


And yet Danny was wrong. As you can see, Daniel and Danny both had their hands full trying to come up with terse comments to my full fledged arguments throughout this thread.

Poor Doctor Fate.

Define subjectivity for me. Tell me again what the weight of words are upon all people's psyches and then tell me how one can refute something that's simply a lie through and through.


Are you so angry that you can't think straight? Is that why you had to go back and edit all that stuff in?

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 Originally Posted By: Dr Fate
What you don't understand Pariah, it is not my words that incriminate you. It is your own and how they stray from the topic at hand.


That's just the thing. The topic at hand seems to be zig-zagging quite a bit. If it's not Danny feeling butt-hurt over me correcting Daniel's stupidity, then it's Danny's trying to one up my post count, then it's me being in denial, then it's me making straw mans, then it's me humiliating you in another thread and Danny denying it, then it's Rellik touching Whomod's daughter--Just pick one already.

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 Originally Posted By: Pariah
*sigh* I gave you a chance to turn back Danny. Just know that much.

 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
So you can't be the aggressor cause your board is filled with a aggressive posters?


Exactly. We kept to ourselves doing what we usually do because that's our local custom.

On the other hand, you came here for the exact purpose of changing our morality and verbal traditions. That would make you the aggressors.


To which Danny replied:

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
This is weak.

You guys ganged up on Whomod so we came. We don't care about your stupid traditions anymore then you care for our rules.


And so:

 Originally Posted By: Pariah
Apparently you do since you're coming here for the sake of someone who's been here for years and can attest to the nature of this place. And yet, even after the thorough understanding of what a person must put up with if they decide to stay here, you still feel there's warrant to come here for the sake of justice. The problem here is that your definition of justice seems to be wholly different from ours.

We've already explained that you're no different from anyone else on this board in the way you interact with other posters, but all the same you still feel that you're a unique snowflake falling on this wasteland of ours.


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
By this logic you care about our rules cause you bitch about them.

It's a basic action/reaction thing. Deal with it.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
I don't bitch about them. I say you're stupid for pretending they're relevant.

You don't have to react to us, and yet you choose to.


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
That's bitching.

We chose to react to your aggressions. That much is true.

*IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT HE EDITED THAT SECOND SENTENCE IN*


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
All that means is that you pick and choose what scenario qualifies as "bitching" according to what's convenient for you.


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You've said multiple times are rules are stupid. Bitching.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
Actually, it's just a statement of fact.

If I actually went over to your boards and then petitioned you through spam and alts to change your rules, due to them being stupid, then that would qualify as "bitching."



Now here's where we switch from Danny to Daniel!

 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
By this logic you care about our rules cause you bitch about them.

It's a basic action/reaction thing. Deal with it.


I don't bitch about them. I say you're stupid for pretending they're relevant.

You don't have to react to us, and yet you choose to.


Hello kettle? This is the pot. You're black.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
You've misused the phrase; I don't have a rules to contradict here and I haven't migrated to your board to give you lectures.


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Pariah is claiming to own a phrase probaly older then everyone on this board? No wonder he's gotta go after minors.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
How exactly does stating the proper use of the phrase qualify as me saying that I own it?


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You don't get to decide that. The basic message of the phrase was clear.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
His intent was clear based on the context of the situation, but that doesn't mean his message was clear. Because he made an erroneous comparison between my intentions and the Insurgency intentions, his point made no sense. In which case, he misused the phrase and made an ass out of himself.


 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
You've misused the phrase; I don't have a rules to contradict here and I haven't migrated to your board to give you lectures.


Actually, friend, I'm paraphrasing its usage from a once popular television program (Friends, if you're feeling froggy). So I didn't, in point of fact, misuse the phrase. Perhaps if you got off the computer every so often and socialized with non-fuck wits you'd learn something...and maybe you'd stop trying to fuck minors. But I kind of doubt it.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
What does you paraphrasing it have to do with the fact that you've misjudged the propriety of its use?

The phrase has been around longer than Friends.


To which Danny cleverly replied with:

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Because he didn't. You're a reaching.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
Actually, he did. I explained specifically that he misinterpreted my intentions for posting on messageboards for his own and therefore his attempt at being witty failed. No reaching has been done.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
Don't assume. It makes an ass out of you, not me.


There are no assumptions. As I said, and Dan agrees, your intent was clear. Your execution was not.


 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
By this logic you care about our rules cause you bitch about them.

It's a basic action/reaction thing. Deal with it.


I don't bitch about them. I say you're stupid for pretending they're relevant.

You don't have to react to us, and yet you choose to.


Once again, .

You are in this very conversation doing the thing you are accusing the Insurgents of doing (that'd be reacting to us, whilst feigning to be above such things), therefore you are the kettle. You, good sir, are black. Figuratively speaking, anyway.

PS I win. That's how it's done around here, right?


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
Once again, .

You are in this very conversation doing the thing you are accusing the Insurgents of doing (that'd be reacting to us, whilst feigning to be above such things), therefore you are the kettle. You, good sir, are black. Figuratively speaking, anyway.

PS I win. That's how it's done around here, right?


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
You've misused the phrase; I don't have a rules to contradict here and I haven't migrated to your board to give you lectures.


I come here to post. I'm posting.

I don't come here to go to your board in reaction to your "rules."

Thank you for playing.


And then he torches my ass with:

 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview

Straw man. No wonder you guys "win" all of your arguments here. You cheat.


WHOA!!

 Originally Posted By: Pariah
No strawman was used. I let your words speak for themselves and I responded to them.

I deflect your strawman.


And Danny was just so incredibly witty with:

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Of course you do


 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
Seek help. Seriously.

Carefully presenting and refuting a weakened form of an opponent's argument is not always itself a fallacy. It can refocus the scope of an argument or be a legitimate step of a proof by exhaustion. In contrast the straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern:

1. Person A has position X.

2. Person B ignores X and instead presents position Y. Y is a distorted version of X and can be set up in several ways, including:

1. Presenting a misrepresentation of the opponent's position and then refuting it, thus giving the appearance that the opponent's actual position has been refuted.
2. Quoting an opponent's words out of context -- i.e., choosing quotations that are not representative of the opponent's actual intentions (see contextomy and quote mining).
3. Presenting someone who defends a position poorly as the defender and then refuting that person's arguments, thus giving the appearance that every upholder of that position, and thus the position itself, has been defeated.[1]
4. Inventing a fictitious persona with actions or beliefs that are criticized, such that the person represents a group of whom the speaker is critical.
5. Oversimplifying an opponent's argument, then attacking the simplified version.


3. Person B attacks position Y.

4. Person B draws a conclusion that X is false/incorrect/flawed. This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
I used your exact quote and I responded to it with a direct statement. Not an interpretation of your meaning. You're floundering.


And then after all this conversation with mainly me formulating the arguments, Danny very smartly observes.

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You say that, but you never manage to come up with anything other than denial as a retort. That's why I said you proved Doc's point before. BTW, Doc has always been right.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
There has been no denial. I have specifically pointed out the difference between responding to posters on your home board versus migrating to another board to tell the posters there that they are evil immoral individuals that are going to hell.

I'm sure you'd like that to be a strawman, but it's not.


And then, of course:

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You say that, but you never manage to come up with anything other than denial as a retort. That's why I said you proved Doc's point before. BTW, Doc has always been right.


There has been no denial. I have specifically pointed out the difference between responding to posters on your home board versus migrating to another board to tell the posters there that they are evil immoral individuals that are going to hell.

I'm sure you'd like that to be a strawman, but it's not.


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No guilt, no weakness, no contradictions. Just your own bias.


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Actually, it doesn't. Try again.


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No guilt, no weakness, no contradictions. Just your own bias.


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There has been no denial.


I'm sensing a pattern here...


Which are abridged quotes that precede and proceed full responses in other respective posts that have nothing to do with Daniel or our original conversations.


Well God DAMN! I'd say you've gotten under this prick's skin. Excellent work.

Zzap!

P.S. Wait for his next post in which he denies that we're winning. I told you guys last night that this fake Pariah was dense.

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 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Yeah I have pretty much no idea what any of that has to do with Pariah's denial. Those aren't even the same quotes that I posted.


Which is the point isn't it. You ignored this entire thread for the sake of rounding off my character with a "denial" blanket-statement that only pays attention to another thread in which the quotes you pulled were actually complemented by the context of other posts made by me.

To put it simply Danny: You're an idiot.

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Well God DAMN! I'd say you've gotten under this prick's skin. Excellent work.

Zzap!

P.S. Wait for his next post in which he denies that we're winning. I told you guys last night that this fake Pariah was dense.


A big post is one thing, but that hasn't got shit to do with anything we're talking about. He's dead in the water.

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 Originally Posted By: Captain Zzap
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
*sigh* I gave you a chance to turn back Danny. Just know that much.

 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
So you can't be the aggressor cause your board is filled with a aggressive posters?


Exactly. We kept to ourselves doing what we usually do because that's our local custom.

On the other hand, you came here for the exact purpose of changing our morality and verbal traditions. That would make you the aggressors.


To which Danny replied:

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
This is weak.

You guys ganged up on Whomod so we came. We don't care about your stupid traditions anymore then you care for our rules.


And so:

 Originally Posted By: Pariah
Apparently you do since you're coming here for the sake of someone who's been here for years and can attest to the nature of this place. And yet, even after the thorough understanding of what a person must put up with if they decide to stay here, you still feel there's warrant to come here for the sake of justice. The problem here is that your definition of justice seems to be wholly different from ours.

We've already explained that you're no different from anyone else on this board in the way you interact with other posters, but all the same you still feel that you're a unique snowflake falling on this wasteland of ours.


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
By this logic you care about our rules cause you bitch about them.

It's a basic action/reaction thing. Deal with it.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
I don't bitch about them. I say you're stupid for pretending they're relevant.

You don't have to react to us, and yet you choose to.


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
That's bitching.

We chose to react to your aggressions. That much is true.

*IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT HE EDITED THAT SECOND SENTENCE IN*


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
All that means is that you pick and choose what scenario qualifies as "bitching" according to what's convenient for you.


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You've said multiple times are rules are stupid. Bitching.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
Actually, it's just a statement of fact.

If I actually went over to your boards and then petitioned you through spam and alts to change your rules, due to them being stupid, then that would qualify as "bitching."



Now here's where we switch from Danny to Daniel!

 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
By this logic you care about our rules cause you bitch about them.

It's a basic action/reaction thing. Deal with it.


I don't bitch about them. I say you're stupid for pretending they're relevant.

You don't have to react to us, and yet you choose to.


Hello kettle? This is the pot. You're black.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
You've misused the phrase; I don't have a rules to contradict here and I haven't migrated to your board to give you lectures.


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Pariah is claiming to own a phrase probaly older then everyone on this board? No wonder he's gotta go after minors.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
How exactly does stating the proper use of the phrase qualify as me saying that I own it?


 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You don't get to decide that. The basic message of the phrase was clear.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
His intent was clear based on the context of the situation, but that doesn't mean his message was clear. Because he made an erroneous comparison between my intentions and the Insurgency intentions, his point made no sense. In which case, he misused the phrase and made an ass out of himself.


 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
You've misused the phrase; I don't have a rules to contradict here and I haven't migrated to your board to give you lectures.


Actually, friend, I'm paraphrasing its usage from a once popular television program (Friends, if you're feeling froggy). So I didn't, in point of fact, misuse the phrase. Perhaps if you got off the computer every so often and socialized with non-fuck wits you'd learn something...and maybe you'd stop trying to fuck minors. But I kind of doubt it.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
What does you paraphrasing it have to do with the fact that you've misjudged the propriety of its use?

The phrase has been around longer than Friends.


To which Danny cleverly replied with:

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Because he didn't. You're a reaching.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
Actually, he did. I explained specifically that he misinterpreted my intentions for posting on messageboards for his own and therefore his attempt at being witty failed. No reaching has been done.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
Don't assume. It makes an ass out of you, not me.


There are no assumptions. As I said, and Dan agrees, your intent was clear. Your execution was not.


 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
By this logic you care about our rules cause you bitch about them.

It's a basic action/reaction thing. Deal with it.


I don't bitch about them. I say you're stupid for pretending they're relevant.

You don't have to react to us, and yet you choose to.


Once again, .

You are in this very conversation doing the thing you are accusing the Insurgents of doing (that'd be reacting to us, whilst feigning to be above such things), therefore you are the kettle. You, good sir, are black. Figuratively speaking, anyway.

PS I win. That's how it's done around here, right?


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
Once again, .

You are in this very conversation doing the thing you are accusing the Insurgents of doing (that'd be reacting to us, whilst feigning to be above such things), therefore you are the kettle. You, good sir, are black. Figuratively speaking, anyway.

PS I win. That's how it's done around here, right?


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
You've misused the phrase; I don't have a rules to contradict here and I haven't migrated to your board to give you lectures.


I come here to post. I'm posting.

I don't come here to go to your board in reaction to your "rules."

Thank you for playing.


And then he torches my ass with:

 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview

Straw man. No wonder you guys "win" all of your arguments here. You cheat.


WHOA!!

 Originally Posted By: Pariah
No strawman was used. I let your words speak for themselves and I responded to them.

I deflect your strawman.


And Danny was just so incredibly witty with:

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Of course you do


 Originally Posted By: Daniel Plainview
Seek help. Seriously.

Carefully presenting and refuting a weakened form of an opponent's argument is not always itself a fallacy. It can refocus the scope of an argument or be a legitimate step of a proof by exhaustion. In contrast the straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern:

1. Person A has position X.

2. Person B ignores X and instead presents position Y. Y is a distorted version of X and can be set up in several ways, including:

1. Presenting a misrepresentation of the opponent's position and then refuting it, thus giving the appearance that the opponent's actual position has been refuted.
2. Quoting an opponent's words out of context -- i.e., choosing quotations that are not representative of the opponent's actual intentions (see contextomy and quote mining).
3. Presenting someone who defends a position poorly as the defender and then refuting that person's arguments, thus giving the appearance that every upholder of that position, and thus the position itself, has been defeated.[1]
4. Inventing a fictitious persona with actions or beliefs that are criticized, such that the person represents a group of whom the speaker is critical.
5. Oversimplifying an opponent's argument, then attacking the simplified version.


3. Person B attacks position Y.

4. Person B draws a conclusion that X is false/incorrect/flawed. This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
I used your exact quote and I responded to it with a direct statement. Not an interpretation of your meaning. You're floundering.


And then after all this conversation with mainly me formulating the arguments, Danny very smartly observes.

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You say that, but you never manage to come up with anything other than denial as a retort. That's why I said you proved Doc's point before. BTW, Doc has always been right.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
There has been no denial. I have specifically pointed out the difference between responding to posters on your home board versus migrating to another board to tell the posters there that they are evil immoral individuals that are going to hell.

I'm sure you'd like that to be a strawman, but it's not.


And then, of course:

 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
You say that, but you never manage to come up with anything other than denial as a retort. That's why I said you proved Doc's point before. BTW, Doc has always been right.


There has been no denial. I have specifically pointed out the difference between responding to posters on your home board versus migrating to another board to tell the posters there that they are evil immoral individuals that are going to hell.

I'm sure you'd like that to be a strawman, but it's not.


 Quote:
No guilt, no weakness, no contradictions. Just your own bias.


 Quote:
Actually, it doesn't. Try again.


 Quote:
No guilt, no weakness, no contradictions. Just your own bias.


 Quote:
There has been no denial.


I'm sensing a pattern here...


Which are abridged quotes that precede and proceed full responses in other respective posts that have nothing to do with Daniel or our original conversations.


Well God DAMN! I'd say you've gotten under this prick's skin. Excellent work.

Zzap!

P.S. Wait for his next post in which he denies that we're winning. I told you guys last night that this fake Pariah was dense.


I WIN AGAIN!

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 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
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Well God DAMN! I'd say you've gotten under this prick's skin. Excellent work.

Zzap!

P.S. Wait for his next post in which he denies that we're winning. I told you guys last night that this fake Pariah was dense.


A big post is one thing, but that hasn't got shit to do with anything we're talking about. He's dead in the water.


 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Yeah I have pretty much no idea what any of that has to do with Pariah's denial. Those aren't even the same quotes that I posted.


Which is the point isn't it. You ignored this entire thread for the sake of rounding off my character with a "denial" blanket-statement that only pays attention to another thread in which the quotes you pulled were actually complemented by the context of other posts made by me.

To put it simply Danny: You're an idiot.

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 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
Yeah I have pretty much no idea what any of that has to do with Pariah's denial. Those aren't even the same quotes that I posted.


Which is the point isn't it. You ignored this entire thread for the sake of rounding off my character with a "denial" blanket-statement that only pays attention to another thread in which the quotes you pulled were actually complemented by the context of other posts made by me.

To put it simply Danny: You're an idiot.


The subject was your denial, not our previous arguments that had nothing to do with denial. So...who's an idiot?

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 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
The subject was your denial, not our previous arguments that had nothing to do with denial. So...who's an idiot?


You tried to hussle in your "denial" finagle so as to distract from the fact that I made a fool of you and Daniel. But I didn't let you and dismissed your blanket-statement--Embarrassing you for the 12th time.

I win again.

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 Originally Posted By: Pariah
I WIN AGAIN!


Yup. He's a goner.

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 Originally Posted By: Pariah
 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
The subject was your denial, not our previous arguments that had nothing to do with denial. So...who's an idiot?


You tried to hussle in your "denial" finagle so as to distract from the fact that I made a fool of you and Daniel. But I didn't let you and dismissed your blanket-statement--Embarrassing you for the 12th time.

I win again.


That's nice and all but what does it have to do with proving I editted or abridged your posts? You don't even know which conversation you're having right now let alone things you say in the past.

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 Originally Posted By: Dan Blocker
That's nice and all but what does it have to do with proving I editted or abridged your posts? You don't even know which conversation you're having right now let alone things you say in the past.


You see? You're trying to distract from the fact that those quotes weren't characteristic of my entire posting history with you and Fate in hopes that I'll suddenly forget that you tried so desperately to pull poor Daniel from the fire and only ended up drowning in your own hypocrisy (see also: "That's week" and "You're reaching").

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I can't wait to witness your brilliance.


Your extremism is indicative of the lack of wit that you lambaste the Insurgents for. It does not require "brilliance" to do better than such banality.


you just ended a sentence with a preposition.



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in times new roman, no less!


I know! He's like that over at their board, too!

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Bump cause IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII feel like it!


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Wow. You bumped a thread near the top of the forum. You're a real rebel.


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 Originally Posted By: rex
Wow. You bumped a thread near the top of the forum. You're a real rebel.


Bump cause rex is a real life genuine sarcasm prodigy


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...I don't get it...

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Neither does he.


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