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Poll: One in three Republicans sour on their party
A USA Today/Gallup poll out Tuesday bears some scary results for GOP leadership: As much as one-third of their constituent Republicans view the party unfavorably.
Ever see an elephant cry?
The poll shows 33 percent of Republicans have soured on the GOP, while 63 percent rated it favorably.
Among Democrats, who control both branches of Congress and the White House, dissatisfaction is practically at an all-time low, just four percent, versus a full 93 percent leaning favorably.
From USA Today:
Asked by Gallup "what comes to mind when you think of the Republican Party," 25% of those surveyed said "unfavorable" and another 1 in 4 offered negative assessments including "no direction," "close-minded" and "poor economic conditions." Sixteen percent said conservative and 7% "favorable."
For the Democratic Party, the most dominant impression was "liberal," mentioned by 15%. One in 3 used positive phrases such as "for the people" and "socially conscious." The most prevalent negative judgments saw the Democrats as "big spending" (8%) and "self-centered" (4%).
Now it's your turn. Where do you fall in this poll? Still a Democrat or Republican? Or have you given up on the parties? And why do you think these numbers look this way?
-- Stephen C. Webster
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No, but I've seen plenty of democrats cry constantly here.
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I've been sour on the Republican party for years. I was never the biggest Bush fan and I think the party brass got a little crazy for awhile. This doesn't really surprise me.
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Don't gloat too long, M E M. The pendulum swings back and forth between parties. A turning point on my support for George W. Bush was when I read Pat Buchanan's 2004 book Where the Right Went Wrong, detailing how the Republican party, through over-reach, tried to cling to power beyond the natural political cycle by abandoning true conservatism and trying to beat the Democrats at their own game with "compassionate conservatism" that is liberal spending and lax immigration by another name. Which gained Bush short-term victory, but by hurting the long-term credibility of the Republican Party, selling out Republican conservatissm. The Obama presidency is a house of cards, and when it collapses --and the U.S. economy with it-- the people will be clamoring for an alternative to Obama's soviet regime. If not Obama's head on a stick. I actually agree that as a Republican, I wasn't overly thrilled with Bush, or with McCain (soft on illegal immigration and border security, wasteful spending, the Harriet Myers nomination, offshoring of jobs, excessive free trade and a huge foreign trade deficit, etc.) But at the same time, what these Republicans offered was ever so slightly better than what is occurring now under Obama, Reid and Pelosi. Who I think are truly a danger to this country, its economy, and our very sovereignty. Contrary to the poll quoted, I see the Republicans refining themselves, and gearing up for 2010 and 2012. Learning from the last 2 elections, and getting in touch with true Republican conservatism. While Republican numbers are relatively low right now, Republican aapproval numbers are rising, as outrage builds over the Trojan Horse that Obama has snuck through the door. And we're already seeing the first fruits of that reversal: DEMOCRATS LOSE CONTROL OF NEW YORK SENATE
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Don't gloat too long, M E M.
The pendulum swings back and forth between parties. I agree that these things go back and forth. A turning point on my support for George W. Bush was when I read Pat Buchanan's 2004 book Where the Right Went Wrong, detailing how the Republican party, through over-reach, tried to cling to power beyond the natural political cycle by abandoning true conservatism and trying to beat the Democrats at their own game with "compassionate conservatism" that is liberal spending and lax immigration by another name.
Which gained Bush short-term victory, but by hurting the long-term credibility of the Republican Party, selling out Republican conservatissm. It gave Bush and the GOP quite a long ride. Enough to erase all the gains made under Clinton. I doubt you'll see much difference in the parties as it concerns immigration anytime soon. The Obama presidency is a house of cards, and when it collapses --and the U.S. economy with it-- the people will be clamoring for an alternative to Obama's soviet regime. If not Obama's head on a stick. I think making comparisons to the soviet regime is way over the top exageration. I'm not an expert but I think you undermine some of your more thoughtful arguments by doing so. I actually agree that as a Republican, I wasn't overly thrilled with Bush, or with McCain (soft on illegal immigration and border security, wasteful spending, the Harriet Myers nomination, offshoring of jobs, excessive free trade and a huge foreign trade deficit, etc.)
But at the same time, what these Republicans offered was ever so slightly better than what is occurring now under Obama, Reid and Pelosi. Who I think are truly a danger to this country, its economy, and our very sovereignty. Don't agree of course but you knew that already  Contrary to the poll quoted, I see the Republicans refining themselves, and gearing up for 2010 and 2012. Learning from the last 2 elections, and getting in touch with true Republican conservatism. I think they're still stumbling around and have a ways to go. On the other hand, they have the time to do it. If things start turning around and getting better before 2010 I doubt they'll have much luck getting the votes though. While Republican numbers are relatively low right now, Republican aapproval numbers are rising, as outrage builds over the Trojan Horse that Obama has snuck through the door. And we're already seeing the first fruits of that reversal: DEMOCRATS LOSE CONTROL OF NEW YORK SENATEI'm not sure that has much to do with Obama. The GOP can have the NY senetor who slashed his girlfriend's face.
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I am Wreck-gar! I been done seen about everything When I see a elephant cry!
I am only good for one thing.
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The Obama presidency is a house of cards, and when it collapses --and the U.S. economy with it-- the people will be clamoring for an alternative to Obama's soviet regime. If not Obama's head on a stick. I think making comparisons to the soviet regime is way over the top exageration. I'm not an expert but I think you undermine some of your more thoughtful arguments by doing so. When you look at Obama's circle of friends and close associates (Frank Marshall Davis, William Ayres, his long relationship with ACORN's marxist leadership) you see a consistent uni-mind with the most anti-American and radical marxist individuals imaginable. Read the chapter "Four Who Made a Revolution" in Pat Buchanan's Death of the West book, detailing the marxist origins of the 60's liberal counterculture, who through relentless slander and distortion had as their goal undermining faith in the institutions of democracy, as step one toward replacing it with a marxist system un-opposed, and anyone can see that Obama is exactly, EXACTLY the leader these people are looking for, who want to deliberately destroy the U.S. from within, and radicially re-shape it in a marxist template (i.e., "wealth redistribution"). It's not over the top to identify Obama and his associates as soviets or marxists. It's repeating what these people actually have stated as their goals for the nation, after you brush aside the liberal-media cover and spin. Obama occasionally says what he actually intends("spread the wealth"), and exposes himself for what he truly is. As do guests on Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, and O'Reilly's programs. I actually agree that as a Republican, I wasn't overly thrilled with Bush, or with McCain (soft on illegal immigration and border security, wasteful spending, the Harriet Myers nomination, offshoring of jobs, excessive free trade and a huge foreign trade deficit, etc.)
But at the same time, what these Republicans offered was ever so slightly better than what is occurring now under Obama, Reid and Pelosi. Who I think are truly a danger to this country, its economy, and our very sovereignty. Don't agree of course but you knew that already The writing is on the wall. You just refuse to read it. Or at least pretend you don't see it, due to pure partisan bias.
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