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Dementia Don backed off his threat to nuke Iran.

I'm glad he chickened out, what a senile old fucker!


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And check out the terms of the ceasefire! This is not winning


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8-dimensional chess, Biden's fault, Trump is infallible, the mostest bestest deal evar, and so on...


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Do the Democrat-Left ever get tired of repeating the OBVIOUSLY false Iranian, Chinese and Russian talking points, and siding against the United States, just because Trump or some other Republican is president? For 25 years now?

This has been called the most effective military attack in world history. The Ayatollah and his top 50 officials were all wiped out in the first 5 minutes of the war.
U.S. and Israeli strikes up to this point have bombed and destroyed 16,000 targets in Iran, including 80% to 90% of Iran's missiles, drones, naval vessels, and weapons/munitions factories.
Iran is rationing what they have left to fire, because they know there's no more coming after what they have now is used up.

What exactly is Trump "chickening out" from?
Iran has nothing left to fight with, and Trump's offer of a cease fire, that Trump knows Iran will break (that Iran is already breaking) just gives the U.S. military time to re-load and re-position for the next wave of U.S. and Israeli attacks, to finish the job. It is an offer by Trump to save what infrastructure he can in Iran, for the free and democratic regime that will replace the current dying Islamic regime.
There is nothing poorly-planned or "disgraceful" ( those are just Democrat / Iranian talking points narrative lies) .

Trump is not "guilty of war-crimes" (Trump has actually allowed less infrastructure to be destroyed in Iran than would have been destroyed in mos wars, bridges and electrical plants that Trump threatens to destroy if Iran does not negotiate, would normally have been destroyed the FIRST DAY in any other war between nations. So Trump is in control, and Trump is being very humanitarian and avoiding unnecessary civilian casualties and damage to Iran infrastructure.

And meanwhile Iran in January slaughtered a a minimum of 30,000 unarmed Iranian protesters, and slaughtered many other survivors in their hospital beds, and further slaughtered he doctors and nurses who treated their injuries, and even worse to female nurses who were raped by over 50 IRGC soldiers each, literally described as "raping their guts out". But NOT A WORD of criticism from Democrats about these ACTUAL war crimes and cruelty.

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And...peace talks are already over.

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So...we're going to blockade a closed strait. ::le sigh::

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If you cared about the facts, Iran was blockading all other nations from moving any shipping, particularly oil tankers, through the Strait of Hormuz, holding the world economy hostage.

Trump has done the opposite, he is restricting ONLY Iran from moving any shipping through the Strait, re-opening it for any other nation, and in the process, dealing the death-blow to the remaining remnants of the Iranian IRGC regime's oil-based economy, to hasten its collapse and replacement with an infinitely more sane elected government.

AGAIN: What is your alternative suggestion of how to deal wih Iran's 47 years of exporting terrorism and pursuit of nuclear weapons?
Where Iran openly during the final negotiations with the U.S. 5 weeks ago, said they had enough weapons grade enriched Plutonium to immediately produce 11 nuclear weapons within weeks, and continue producing more, EVEN AFTER having their nuclear facilities bombed to the ground less than a year ago?
Immediately re-built their nuclear program.
And if they go nuclear, all their neighbors, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, Turkey, Egypt, will all build nuclear weapons, to re-establish a balance of power, and would vastly increase the chances that one of those nations would intentionally or accidenally start a nuclear war.

You bash Trump's actions, so what is your alternative solution?
Appeasment?
Pallettes of billions in cash?
Just letting them go nuclear, and become an even greater threat?

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Originally Posted by iggy
So...we're going to blockade a closed strait. ::le sigh::

Dementia Don earned his name...


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Oh yes !!
Donald Trump is SO crippled by dimentia and SO CRAZY that....
it's working.
Trump's naval blockade stopping any Iranaian regime ships through the Persian Gulf is bringing Iran instantly to its knees, costing Iran $ 430 million dollars a day, and bringing about an instant economic collapse in Iran, that they can only endure for a matter of weeks at most.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-iran-blockade-peace-israel-april-15



Far from crippled by dimentia, it is very clear that Donald Trump is one billion percent in charge, and making all the decisions. There are many accounts of White House cabinet members saying when they are asleep (such as treasury secretary Scott Bessent) , they get a call at 2 or 3 in the morning from President Trump, with a new idea of how to address a problem, getting them to start immediately on a foreign policy issue, a plan to reduce fraud, and other issues.

As contrasted with George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden, who were completely driven by their own advisors. And never more embarassingly and more completely out of he loop and NOT in control, than under Joe Biden.

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Some obvious moments of a president clearly NOT making decisions, not having a clue what's going on in the world he is supposed to be in charge of, clearly suffering dementia, and clearly just a puppet controlled by others :

Joe Biden taking orders from the Easter Bunny



and

Biden: "Oh, yeah, I agree, let's go Brandon" - Biden clearly not knowing it is code for "Fuck Joe Biden", and liberal media deliberately lying to the public with Democrat-protecting propaganda. Biden was clearly not making presidential decisions, and had clearly not even watched the news in weeks, in a period of several weeks when "let's go Brandon" was being explained in the news every day. Biden himself was agreeing with "Fuck Joe Biden" !!




What absolutely terrified me was that at any time in Joe Biden's 4 years, he was utterly incapable of making an executive decision. Meaning at any minute of any day he was president, an enemy nation could have had a submarine 15 miles off our coast, and fired one or more nuclear missiles, that could hit targets anywhere inside the U.S. in LESS THAN 15 minutes.
That Biden was utterly incapable, for 4 entire years, to do anything about it, any minute, any day.
And that his White House staff had no preparation or chain of command to make that decision in his absence, and would have just been running around in panic like headless chickens until the bombs' impact.

We also saw a sample of that in September 2012 during the Benghazi embassy attack, where Obama just sat on his hands and did nothing, while 50 Americans were about to be killed in the Benghazi embassy. And the ONLY REASON the embassy staff were saved, is because a group of CIA / former military operatives stationed 2 miles away refused orders to stand down, and rescued those 50 people, and 2 of them sacrificed their lives, for a total of 4 dead, including Ambassador Stevens.

And TO THIS DAY we don't even know where Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton were, during the entire 9 hours of that attack, or what they were doing.
Democrat leaders across the board for the last 40 years have proven over and over their absolute contempt for U.S. national security.
And it is potential national suicide, anytime they are entrusted with the presidency. It is only an enemy nation not knowing at the time that vulnerability existed, during a Clinton, Obama or Biden presidency, or other future Democrat presidency, that an enemy has not pulled that trigger.

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"China is very happy that I am permanently opening the Strait of Hormuz. I am doing it for them, also - And the World. This situation will never happen again. They have agreed not to send weapons to Iran. President Xi will give me a big, fat, hug when I get there in a few weeks. We are working together smartly, and very well! Doesn’t that beat fighting??? BUT REMEMBER, we are very good at fighting, if we have to - far better than anyone else!!! President DJT”

Wow...


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Originally Posted by MisterJLA
"China is very happy that I am permanently opening the Strait of Hormuz. I am doing it for them, also - And the World. This situation will never happen again. They have agreed not to send weapons to Iran. President Xi will give me a big, fat, hug when I get there in a few weeks. We are working together smartly, and very well! Doesn’t that beat fighting??? BUT REMEMBER, we are very good at fighting, if we have to - far better than anyone else!!! President DJT”

Wow...

Between the lines : China is very dependent on oil imports, and buys 90% of Iran's exported oil, far more than either the EU or the U.S. get through the Persian gulf ( the EU about 20%, the U.S. only 2%) . An interruption of Iranian oil, 40% of China's total oil imports, could bring China to its knees economically in a matter of weeks, maybe less than 2 weeks. So China better not send arms or missiles to Iran to prolong the situation, the U.S. can easily cut off China's exports completely, if they make any further moves to intimidate or invade Taiwan.

In the last 5 years, China has flown about 100 planes a day across Taiwan air space, every day.

Since this U.S. and Israeli attack on Iran began, and oil through the Strait of Hormuz has virtually stopped, China has completely stopped its flyovers to intimidate and test Taiwan's defenses.
Period, the end, message received, crystal clear.

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You ever get the feeling someone fucked the dog and now we're running out of missiles

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President Trump actually has twice the U.S. ships, planes and missiles in the Persian Gulf region than it had on the first day of the war 6 weeks ago, if Trump at any moment decides to give up the cease-fire (that Iran never agreed to, and is not honoring, as it still raids ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz) the U.S. already has twice the forces here to unleash, and immediately finish the job.
And that is still only 20% of the entire U.S. navy.

Despite the Democrat party and liberal media's daily propaganda that Trump is somehow losing the war.
Oh yeah, Iran has lost 90% of their missiles, drones and ships... but hey, it's time for Iran to have that comeback now, they're going to wipe us out with the 10% of their forces they have left.
Like Hitler in his bunker in April 1945.
Oh heck yeah, that comeback's gonna come day now.... rolleyes


Iran doesn't need a propaganda department, they have the Democrat party and the liberal media to do their work for them.

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They don't have to win. They have to not lose. We should all understand this playbook by now.

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Chickenhawks never learn.


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1) Trump launches a war on Iran.
[ Democrat party and media: "Warmonger"! or alternately "Trump's losing the war"!! ]

2) Trump calls a ceasefire, to minimize casualties and loss of Iranian infrastructure, to save more for the Iranian people after the IRGC regime falls. Mercifully winning with economic sanctions instead of bombs and mass death.
[ Democrat party and media: "TACO !!" "Trump always chickens out"!! ]

3) Trump re-starts the war for 3 more days, and bombs the IRGC into submission.
[ Democrat party and media: "Trump's unnecessary destruction! War crimes"!! "Trump is going to make the U.S. military run out of missiles"!! ]

4) Trump ends the second wave of attacks on Iran, and negotiates including all the neighboring Persian Gulf states, in planning Iran's post-war future, an approach that HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE.
[ Democrat party and media: "Trump is caving in to Iran, and will pay off Iran just like Obama did"!! "Trump wasted our missiles for minimal gain"!! "Trump is settling for way less, and is negotiating a bad deal"!! panic panic ]


Despite that Trump has made it clear he will never allow Iran to keep nuclear weapons, or allow Iran the ability to make more nukes, as they attempted to do again over the last 9 months?
The war has cost the IRGC $1 trillion in war damage, and they no longer have the resources to buy or rebuild their lost nuclear program, their drones, missiles, or navy, and have lost far more than they did 9 months ago.
But without knowing the facts, the Democrats and George Orwell's liberal media are selling the narrative that Trump doesn't know what he's doing, and is going to let Iran get nukes.
That would essentially be Obama's Iran nuclear deal, that would have allowed Iran to have obtained nukes RIGHT NOW, if Trump had not scrapped Obama's "Iran nuclear deal" in 2017?

That Biden would have permitted Iran to get as well, no challenge or resistance from the U.S. under Biden?



But the Democrat/Left portrays Trump as a dupe who doesn't know what he's doing, for holding out for a deal that involves all of Iran's neighbors, and DOESN'T allow Iran to just let the clock run out and inevitably get nuclear weapons at some future date, as Obama and Biden both would have allowed Iran to acquire?
Oh yeah.. that's totally fair. rolleyes



How about.... we wait for Trump and Iran to announce the final deal and terms, before jumping to wild conclusions without knowing the facts.

But, of course, the Democrats and media INSTANTLY ASSUME Trump is wrong, while he same Democras assumed for 18 years that Obama's well-known plan for Iran to inevitably obtain nuclear weapons with no challenge was a great deal for the U.S. and the world. It clearly was NOT.


I saw a panel discussion wih K T McFarland, Col. Tony Shaffer, and then General Keith Kellogg, who all say whatever is negotiated, the Islamic regime in Iraq is severely weakened and will collapse and be replaced within a year. And if they're gone, the next Iranian government will not be pursuing nukes.
And that sounds like a win to me.
I have a ton more faith in Trump than I ever did in Obama or Biden, or for that matter the Democrat party and liberal media. Trump has been decisive and a hard negotiator. Obama and Biden (and Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries) have been acquiescent and go-with-the-flow and let Iran have nukes. It's very clear who we should have more confidence in negotiating a better resolution with Iran.

I trust the guys who aren't, y'know, America-hating Marxist revolutionaries who side with Antifa and Black Lives Matter.
Who don't attack and dox ICE agents, and don't want open borders.
Who don't want to set up an authortiarian socialis/Marxist one -party government
Who don't want to nationalize (and rig) elections,
Who don't want to make Washington DC and Puerto Rico states, just to consolidate permanent Democrat power.
Who don'tt want to "stack" the U.S. Supreme Court and expand it from 9 to 13 justices, adding four more Kitanji Brown-Jacksons who will give the Democrats overwhelming control of the U.S. Supreme Court, with no regard for the U.S. Constitution the U S S C is set up to actually protect.

So with all this clearly stated by Democrats as their immediate and imminent nation-destroying goals, that are clearly all bad for our constitutional republic, IN HATRED OF our republic, why would I trust Democrats to have better wisdom over what to do in negotiating a new peace deal with Iran?
You know the answer.

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Look who’s talking about the Iran deal
It’s a lie WB to try to spin this as all just as partisan criticism.
Love of country rises above party loyalty. Something you are incapable of.


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Originally Posted by iggy
They don't have to win. They have to not lose. We should all understand this playbook by now.

Having seen that Trump dictated the MOU and it matched what I had read from international sources previously, he clearly did not understand the playbook. Shocker. rolleyes

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Originally Posted by iggy
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They don't have to win. They have to not lose. We should all understand this playbook by now.

Having seen that Trump dictated the MOU and it matched what I had read from international sources previously, he clearly did not understand the playbook. Shocker. rolleyes


But Obama and John Kerry DID know what hey were doing, when they signed Obama's JCPOA "Iran Nuclear Deal" in 2015?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_nuclear_deal

If Obama and Kerry knew what they were doing, they were willingly signing our death warrants, allowing in the agreement for Iran to obtain nuclear weapons.

Whatever Trump ultimately agrees to, it will NOT be to let Iran have nuclear weapons, as the clueless America-hating Leftists on Team Obama so eagerly agreed to.
You hate on Trump and deride him, without even knowing what Trump will ultimately agree to in 60 days or so.
You just mindlessly attack Trump.
And really, ANY Republican.

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They didn't have over 20% enriched until dumbass tore up the agreement. But, continue on with your Obama Derangement Syndrome, you sucker of orange cock.

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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Look who’s talking about the Iran deal
It’s a lie WB to try to spin this as all just as partisan criticism.
Love of country rises above party loyalty. Something you are incapable of.


"Love of country rises above party loyalty." lol
You posturing sanctimonious hypocritical liar, hiding under a fake veil of patriotism, even as you advocate every Marxist / authoritarian thing that schemes to DESTROY our consitutional democracy.
You're not a patriot, M E M, you're a radical Lefist/Socialist.


it's a fact that you and the broader Democrat/Left kneejerk-attack anything Trump and the Republicans say or do.
And as I just pointed out, this Trump deal with Iran is not the final agreement. That final agreement won't be negotiated and signed for at least another 60 days.
So YOU are a liar, you don't have a clue wha that final agreemen will look like. So maybe you should actually live by your own hypocritical sanctimonious fake wwords, and put "love of country above party loyalty". But no, you'd rather just reflexively attack Trump, without even knowing the facts.

And if you REALLY thought "Love of country rises above party loyalty.", you would have vociferously opposed Obama's Iran Nuclear Deal, that allowed for Iran to have nuclear weapons.



So it's typical Democrat/Left propaganda, to portray anything Trump does, or really, ANY Republican, as "right wing", "extreme", or "a Constittutional crisis", or "a threat to democracy" panicpanic

Whereas in truth, it is YOU, the Democrat-Bolshevik party, who seek to destroy all Constitutional checks and balances, to set up a Communist/Socialist one-party authoritarian system in the United States.

But oh yeah, YOU GUYS are the ONLY TRUE defenders of democracy rolleyes
What utter horseshit.



The DEMOCRATS are the party of de-funding the police, of "all cops are bastards", of ATTACKING police in the streets, of doxing the police AND their families, of SWATTing Trump cabinet officials and SWATing Republican House and Senate members.

Democrats are the party of "Anti-ICE", of attacking ICE officers and Border Patrol agents nationwide. And likewise doxxing them and their families, and encouraging leftists nationwide to attack them AND their wives, AND their children.

Democrats are the party that tried to kill Brett Kavanaugh, that sent activists to follow Amy Coney-Barrett and her children everywhere, so they could be abducted at any time, or so these Supreme Court justices could be intimidated with the threat of that, any time.

Democrats are the party of Chuck Schumer, who also threatened U S Supreme Court justices, and encouraged others to attack USSC justices:
"You have reaped the whirlwinfd, and you will pay the price."
Schumer specifically naming Bret Kavenaugh and Neil Gorsuch as targets for Democrat hatred and violence.

Democrats are the party that sends mobs of Democrat activists outside the homes of U S Supreme Court justices, shouting angry slogans and threats 24 hours a day, to intimidate the most powerful judges in America, to give rulings based on mob intimidation, rather than on the rule of law.

Democrats want to expand the U S Supreme Court from 9 to 13 justtices, all the new jusices (of course !!) far-left Democrat rubber stamps, to give Democrats permanent authoritarian control of the U S S C.



The Democrats want to nationalize elections, so they can [further] rig elections, and the minority party (by manipulaion, that would permanently the Republicans) cannot even dispute an unfair election.


Democrats want to make Washington DC a state [ by the way, the District of Columbia was specifically set up to NOT be a state, because making the Capitol part of any state was considered something that would give that state undue influence over the rest of the United States ].
Likewise, Democrats want to make Puerto Rico a state [ which likewise is not qualified to be a state, because they won't consent to the basic requirement of any territory to become a state, to make English their official language. ]
In the cases of both DC and Puerto Rico, Democrats ONLY want them as states because each would provide 2 more permanent Democrat senators, thus guaranteeing the Democrats a +4 permanent Senate majority for a least the next century.

ALL of these things are Democrat-Bolshevik tricks to undermine and seize permanent power over our Constitutional democracy, to DESTROY it, and turn it into a permanent authoritarian one-party system.



So you're not practicing "Love of country [that] rises above party loyalty", you are ONLY for the Democrat-Bolshevik party, M E M, a party loyalty that makes you part of a plot and revolution to DESTROY the country, and replace our Constitutional republic with a Communist/Socialist authoritarian one-party system.


Joe Biden's 4 years is a good sample, for openers, of what that Democrat-Bolshevik revolution would look like. As are the open threats in the last 3 months of Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, Susan Rice, Kammala Harris and James Carville, to even further weaponize federal agencies against Republicans on a massive scale, the day they ever regain power.
Authoritarian control, and rule by intimidation.
Weaponizing federal agencies against anyone who dissents or protests that Democrat authoritarian one-party control.

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Originally Posted by iggy
They didn't have over 20% enriched until dumbass tore up the agreement. But, continue on with your Obama Derangement Syndrome, you sucker of orange cock.

The Iranians were sill cheating and pursuing weapons grade plutonium, dumbass.
It was just a matter of time.

Iran was breaking the rules and pursuing nukes all along, from the moment Obama signed the JCPOA agreement.
Iran was going to ge a nuclear weapon. Only under Trump has here been a serious and consisent move to prevent that from happening.

You're the dumbass who doesn't seem to realize that.

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They were cheating so that makes them going full tilt after he shredded JCPOA is a really fucking stupid defense, retard. But, keep defending the surrender monkey that wasted billions for return to status quo except more for Iran.

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Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
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1) Trump launches a war on Iran.
[ Democrat party and media: "Warmonger"! or alternately "Trump's losing the war"!! ]

2) Trump calls a ceasefire, to minimize casualties and loss of Iranian infrastructure, to save more for the Iranian people after the IRGC regime falls. Mercifully winning with economic sanctions instead of bombs and mass death.
[ Democrat party and media: "TACO !!" "Trump always chickens out"!! ]

3) Trump re-starts the war for 3 more days, and bombs the IRGC into submission.
[ Democrat party and media: "Trump's unnecessary destruction! War crimes"!! "Trump is going to make the U.S. military run out of missiles"!! ]

4) Trump ends the second wave of attacks on Iran, and negotiates including all the neighboring Persian Gulf states, in planning Iran's post-war future, an approach that HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE.
[ Democrat party and media: "Trump is caving in to Iran, and will pay off Iran just like Obama did"!! "Trump wasted our missiles for minimal gain"!! "Trump is settling for way less, and is negotiating a bad deal"!! panic panic ]


Despite that Trump has made it clear he will never allow Iran to keep nuclear weapons, or allow Iran the ability to make more nukes, as they attempted to do again over the last 9 months?
The war has cost the IRGC $1 trillion in war damage, and they no longer have the resources to buy or rebuild their lost nuclear program, their drones, missiles, or navy, and have lost far more than they did 9 months ago.
But without knowing the facts, the Democrats and George Orwell's liberal media are selling the narrative that Trump doesn't know what he's doing, and is going to let Iran get nukes.
That would essentially be Obama's Iran nuclear deal, that would have allowed Iran to have obtained nukes RIGHT NOW, if Trump had not scrapped Obama's "Iran nuclear deal" in 2017?

That Biden would have permitted Iran to get as well, no challenge or resistance from the U.S. under Biden?



But the Democrat/Left portrays Trump as a dupe who doesn't know what he's doing, for holding out for a deal that involves all of Iran's neighbors, and DOESN'T allow Iran to just let the clock run out and inevitably get nuclear weapons at some future date, as Obama and Biden both would have allowed Iran to acquire?
Oh yeah.. that's totally fair. rolleyes



How about.... we wait for Trump and Iran to announce the final deal and terms, before jumping to wild conclusions without knowing the facts.

But, of course, the Democrats and media INSTANTLY ASSUME Trump is wrong, while he same Democras assumed for 18 years that Obama's well-known plan for Iran to inevitably obtain nuclear weapons with no challenge was a great deal for the U.S. and the world. It clearly was NOT.


I saw a panel discussion wih K T McFarland, Col. Tony Shaffer, and then General Keith Kellogg, who all say whatever is negotiated, the Islamic regime in Iraq is severely weakened and will collapse and be replaced within a year. And if they're gone, the next Iranian government will not be pursuing nukes.
And that sounds like a win to me.
I have a ton more faith in Trump than I ever did in Obama or Biden, or for that matter the Democrat party and liberal media. Trump has been decisive and a hard negotiator. Obama and Biden (and Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries) have been acquiescent and go-with-the-flow and let Iran have nukes. It's very clear who we should have more confidence in negotiating a better resolution with Iran.

I trust the guys who aren't, y'know, America-hating Marxist revolutionaries who side with Antifa and Black Lives Matter.
Who don't attack and dox ICE agents, and don't want open borders.
Who don't want to set up an authortiarian socialis/Marxist one -party government
Who don't want to nationalize (and rig) elections,
Who don't want to make Washington DC and Puerto Rico states, just to consolidate permanent Democrat power.
Who don'tt want to "stack" the U.S. Supreme Court and expand it from 9 to 13 justices, adding four more Kitanji Brown-Jacksons who will give the Democrats overwhelming control of the U.S. Supreme Court, with no regard for the U.S. Constitution the U S S C is set up to actually protect.

So with all this clearly stated by Democrats as their immediate and imminent nation-destroying goals, that are clearly all bad for our constitutional republic, IN HATRED OF our republic, why would I trust Democrats to have better wisdom over what to do in negotiating a new peace deal with Iran?
You know the answer.

Who'd have known the American hating surrender monkeys were MAGA all along... whome

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Originally Posted by iggy
They were cheating so that makes them going full tilt after he shredded JCPOA is a really fucking stupid defense, retard. But, keep defending the surrender monkey that wasted billions for return to status quo except more for Iran.


That doesn't matter anymore, because Trump obliterated their nuclear production facilities. TWICE.

Again: JCPOA would have inevitably given Iran nukes.
Trump is committed to Iran NOT EVER getting nuclear capability. Trump letting them ramp up uranium enrichment after the cancelled JCPOA in 2018, was basically giving Iran the rope to hang themselves. When the nuclear threat became close enough, Trump took it out. TWICE.



Originally Posted by Iggy
Who'd have known the American hating surrender monkeys were MAGA all along... whome

That once again is just gibberish that doesn't say anything clearly.

"Surrender" is not bombing Iran's nuclear facilities twice to the ground.
"Surrender" is not forcing them to give up their arsenal and terrororist proxies, or be bombed yet again.
Trump is offering them an ability to peacefully integrate with their Persian Gulf neighbors, or be bombed again and again until they get the message. That is not "surrender". That is an ultimatum, with a possible generous post-war peace, if Iran gives up its 48-year history of genocide, aggression, wars, terrorism , and nukes.

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You can't say that about JCPOA because they were fairly compliant and open to inspection until Trump torpedoed the agreement. But, of course, all you have is "But, Obama!"Spin, surrender monkey. Spin!

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Originally Posted by iggy
You can't say that about JCPOA because they were fairly compliant and open to inspection until Trump torpedoed the agreement. But, of course, all you have is "But, Obama!"Spin, surrender monkey. Spin!


Iran was NOT compliant.
"fairly compliant" is just weasel-words.

And again, they were inevitably going to wind up with nukes. That was baked into the JCPOA.
And Trump is an idiot to you because... he is NOT going to let Iran ever get nukes?!? Yeah, that makes sense...

What Trump is negotiating is inherently a way better agreement than JCPOA ever was. Plus it is not just about nukes, but also Iran regime change over the next year or so, and getting rid of Iran's terror proxy groups, and creating a wider peaceful integration of Israel, Iran, and the other nations in the region. Expanding on the Abraham Accords. Much more broad and all-encompassing and directed at long-term peace than the JCPOA ever was.

But, y'know... "hate Trump", I guess. rolleyes

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Sure thing, Spinmeister. That's definitely an ice cube and not dookie. rolleyes

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Originally Posted by iggy
Sure thing, Spinmeister. That's definitely an ice cube and not dookie. rolleyes


"an ice cube and not dookie" is more stupid gibberish.

Fail.

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Sorry the public school system failed you, retard.

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Originally Posted by iggy
Sorry the public school system failed you, retard.

Yeah, sorry you're such an ass.



There are tons of reporters who coninue to report on evidence of a rigged election.


And an overwhelming liberal media does everything they can to dismiss the evidence they present. But can't.
Donald Trump was winning the Nov 2020 election until after 3 AM on election night. And it was only after Republican vote observers were tricked into going home, and only cheating Democrats were in the room, that all of a sudden an unexplained surge of votes for Biden began to stack up.

Further, millions of mail-in ballots wih no chain of custody.
And many of them where no down-ballot candidates were selected, only Biden. Because they had to manufacture millions of ballots overnight for Biden to overcome Trump's lead with millions of new fake ballots, and they didn't have time to fill out the rest of each ballot.

Mail carriers who said their Democrat bosses ordered them to put mail-in ballots in a special place when back at the post office, so that expired ineligible mail in ballots could be manually stamped with a false back date, and magically become eligible to be counted again. A mail carrier who reported this, who was then interrogated by FBI, and intimidated into silence, was then fired.

US Mail carriers in predominantly Republican districts, that scrapped the mail-in ballots they collected each day, that they knew would mostly vote for Trump.


Plus multiple other streams of voter fraud.


Dominion voting machines, run by an overwhelmingly Trump-hating liberal-Left employee staff. VP Eric Coomer in particular: "Trump's not going to win, I made fucking sure of that."
Dead people voting.
Thousands of people in each state who had moved out of state, but somehow others voted in their name. All Democrat, of course.
People moving into states a few days before the election, just to register in the nick of time and vote, and then after their votes (all Democrat) were counted, were later found to be fake non-existent addresses. Thousands of them.

Thousands of paper ballots in Phoenix's election center that are legally supposed to be kept in storage for 22 months after the 2020 election for a potential legal re-count, but were observed being shredded less than 2 weeks after the election.
Missing flash-drives in multiple cities, with thousands of votes on them.
Missing computer voting machine access keys in Philadelphia, giving someone the ability to hack voting machines and change thousands of votes.

Dominion voting machines that had fresh software downloaded on them just before the election, and then again just after the election, in multiple cities. VP Eric Coomer "making fucking sure Trump doesn't win", and then with a second software download wiping all the evidence of that hacking away?



All stuff you like to pretend doesn't exist. But it does.

Julie Kelly, Mollie Hemingway, Dinesh D'Souza, and Miranda Devine, among many others, who have reported on these things for the last 6 years, and written books detailing the collected evidence.

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Originally Posted by wonder boy
Soros....Obama...liberal media...hivemind...Sharyl Attkison! I'm a douche bag of buzzwords and hyper partisan bullshit.

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WB your pos traitor in chief and all his sheep didn’t and still doesn’t have evidence that would stand in court. That is the fact that matters.


Fair play!
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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
WB your pos traitor in chief and all his sheep didn’t and still doesn’t have evidence that would stand in court. That is the fact that matters.

Yeah, bla bla bla.

I don't see any logical arguments or sourced facts to back up those incendiary remarks.
Just pure emotion... hate Trump panic





Originally Posted by iggy
Originally Posted by wonder boy
Soros....Obama...liberal media...hivemind...Sharyl Attkison! I'm a douche bag of buzzwords and hyper partisan bullshit.

Likewise, just more ad hominem personal attacks, with no pretense of factual debate or logical counter-argument.

Because you can't.

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Your "facts" got shredded every time they got presented to a judge. Cry harder cause your orange sugar daddy lost, lady boy.

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Originally Posted by iggy
Your "facts" got shredded every time they got presented to a judge. Cry harder cause your orange sugar daddy lost, lady boy.

No. You hurl insults and never address what I source and link, because you can't.
Slanted Journalism and the 2020 Election - Sharyl Attkisson



You malicious unhinged hate-filled shithead.

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Originally Posted by iggy



So just because ONE judge (at this particular stage in litigation, in a long series of court cases Sharyl Attkisson has pursued over a decade now, in legally pursuing justice when her computer was hacked and her privacy invaded), ONE JUDGE ruled against Attkisson's case, PARTIALLY, and you say this fully discredits both her legal case, and discredits her entire 45-plus years as a nationally recognized award-winning investigative journalist ?!?

Be serious.

The judge in the case made it clear that it was a question of jurisdiction, that by his judicial opinion, the case did not have legal merit in the legal realm of his district court in the Maryland region, BUT that she was free to pursue the case in other jurisdictions. As I read the article, the case could possibly be pursued in New York state (CBS News where she worked a the time is based in New York City), or also possibly Washington DC, Virginia, or other states not mentioned in the article. It was not clear in what city Attkisson's computer was when she was hacked and surveiled.

At least one previous judge ruled in Akisson's favor on the case, for her o go forward with he case o his point.
And another lawyer and George Washington University law professor (her attorney) expressed "disappointment" with the judge's ruling, that :

  • “The court’s ruling seems to require that a U.S. citizen, before she can even get to discovery, must identify in advance the precise governmental agent who hacked into her computer system,” Berman said. “This burden will be almost impossible to meet in most cases of government surveillance, and denying even meaningful discovery or a hearing on the issue is simply incompatible with the rule of law in a democratic society.”

and

  • Attkisson stressed that the decision had not gotten into the merits of her case.



The FBI or DOJ folks hacking Sharyl Attkisson's computer could have done it remotely from anywhere in the U.S., or anywhere in the world. So it seems more than a bit obstructive to legally prevent her atorneys from doing legal discovery to find where and who, and legal footprints and documentation, for who and how she was hacked.

There are clearly security experts who advised Attkisson this was very high-tech surveillance, that only the FBI, DOJ, NSA and other intelligence field agencies could possibly use. She is a highly regarded invesigative journalist, and not some wack job who with no basis , or paranoid and making wild baseless accusations. She has been advised by experts before pursuing the case, and gone through the proper channels, and probably at very large personal legal expense.

In a televised interview 5 or so years ago when she left CBS, Attkisson described being home and seeing her computer come on as someone was hacking her computer remotely, and even deleted investigative material from her computer files. At the time, she was doing invesigative reporting on the Obama White House. And we all know how virtuous and beyond abusing their power the folks at that time (and many probably still there) are. James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peer Strzok, Lisa Page, Kevin Clinesmith, Bruce and Nellie Ohr, on down. And dozens --if not hundreds, THOUSANDS-- of others, among Barack Obama / George Orwell's 97% Democrat-donating 38,000 agens in FBI (and more, anoher deep state / Democrat army of bureaucrats in DOJ).

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Oh yeah !!
SO virtuous. They'd NEVER think about deliberately scuttling multiple cases against Hillary Clinton, so their candidate could win, or so she could even remain eligible to run.
They'd NEVER manufacture deliberately untrue or malicious cases against Donald Trump, or Scooter Libby, or Alaska Senator Ted Stevens, JUST to politically smear them and cause them to lose to their preferred Democrats, to rig elections. So the Republican would lose, thus creating a glide path for the Democrat opponent. Except they did, over and over. (Kevin Clinesmith: "Vive le resistance !" )


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