with all due respect, pro, there's quite a bit of hyperbole in your post. 'war for oil and profit' is a pretty common one, but where's the oil and where's the profit? and the alleged 'torture' wasn't even carried out against American citizens.
Republicans going after foreign terrorists who want to kill Americans= curtailing civil liberties, shitting on the Bill of Rights and a war for oil and profit.
Democrats attempting to overthrow the US government=no big deal.
Republicans going after foreign terrorists who want to kill Americans= curtailing civil liberties, shitting on the Bill of Rights and a war for oil and profit.
Democrats attempting to overthrow the US government=no big deal.
Yes, because THAT'S realistic and accurate...
Falsified information and intelligence to defraud the American people into going to war for profit?
vs
A fair, normal democratic election where the Democratic party happens to be in the lead?
I do vote with common sense. I vote Democrat when the candidate is better, Republican when the candidate is better. I voted for the Dem Governor in Ohio last election, I've voted for Dem Senators, County Commissioners, and Sheriff. I've Voted for Republicans in each office as well, and a couple of time Independents.
What I do and I know this is revolutionary thinking to you Pro, is listen to the candidate, try and determine how much of what they are say benefits me(not just personally, but my family, and my offspring), how much they actually mean and how much is BS, how much can they actually achieve, what is their track record.
If on the ballot I don't know enough about them, as is the case with State Supreme court judges, and local judges, I dont vote for that office.
It's not rocket science. You really just need to get your head out of your ass and read a little besides the left wing conspiracy blogs.
All this guilt by associations game that McCain wants to play is actually quite FUN!!! I think from here to election day we can talk about issues that concern Americans and we can also play McCain's desperate little game to distract by talking about associations.
This morning on CBS’s Early Show, McCain-Palin campaign spokesperson Nancy Pfotenhauer attempted to defend Gov. Sarah Palin’s (R-AZ) debunked claims that Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) has been “palling around” with former radical William Ayers. Referencing a recent New York Times article, Pfotenhauer claimed that if McCain “hung out with somebody who had bombed abortion clinics” it would be a legitimate topic of discussion. She explained:
Quote:
PFOTENHAUER: The article also concluded is that if Senator McCain had hung out with somebody who had bombed abortion clinics, no one would consider [raising the issue] illegitimate.
Watch it:
Pfotenhauer’s invocation of abortion clinic bombers in defense of McCain is ironic given that McCain has repeatedly voted against protecting Americans from domestic terrorists in the anti-choice movement. On multiple occasions throughout his career, McCain sought to limit the government’s ability to punish violent anti-choice fanatics by:
– Voting against making anti-choice violence a federal crime. As the Jed Report notes, McCain voted in 1993 and 1994 against making “bombings, arson and blockades at abortion clinics, and shootings and threats of violence against doctors and nurses who perform abortions” federal crimes.
– Opposing Colorado’s “Bubble Law.” McCain said he opposed Colorado’s “Bubble Law,” which prohibited abortion protesters from getting within 8 feet of women entering clinics [Denver Post, 2/27/00]. The law was later upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.
– Voting to allow those fined for violence at clinics to avoid penalties by declaring bankruptcy. NARAL Pro-Chioce America notes that McCain “voted to allow perpetrators of violence or harassment at reproductive-health clinics to avoid paying the fines assessed against them for their illegal acts by declaring bankruptcy.”
Um, given that bombing abortion clinics, arson and harassment are, and were, already illegal, McCain did not vote to make any of those things legal, nor did he vote against them being illegal.
