I don't know. This is a complete guess on my part, but if they were going to select her as VP they WOULDN'T do this. This seems like a "consolation prize" for her not being VP to me.
Democratic Party leaders have spent weeks preparing a national convention this week that will burst with symbols of unshakable unity behind Senator Barack Obama.
But outside the convention arena in Denver, some of Hillary Clinton's supporters plan to air their grievances against Obama, the party's leadership, and the national media, whose coverage of the primary battle they considered sexist. Hundreds of disaffected Democrats from around the country plan to converge in the Mile High City to hold news conferences, protests, and vigils, threatening the party's ability to present a united front against Republican John McCain.
The airing of grievances? Is this a political convention or Festivus?
Calybos, like Larry King, is woefully unfamiliar with the Seinfeld show.
I can attest that Seinfeld is aired in Canada. Former Insurgents have no sense of humor when it comes to politics.
Uschi said: I won't rape you, I'll just fuck you 'till it hurts and then not stop and you'll cry.
MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost!
"I can't even brush my teeth without gagging!" - Tommy Tantillo: Wank & Cry, heckpuppy, and general laughingstock
Yep, I'm familiar with Festivus. Also familiar with how desperate the Republicans are to come up with SOME sort of attack that might stick to the Democrats this year.
Former Insurgents have no sense of humor when it comes to politics.
Uschi said: I won't rape you, I'll just fuck you 'till it hurts and then not stop and you'll cry.
MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost!
"I can't even brush my teeth without gagging!" - Tommy Tantillo: Wank & Cry, heckpuppy, and general laughingstock
Former Insurgents have no sense of humor when it comes to politics.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet."
Is McLame the new McDonalds sandwich? Or just Calybdos' weak attempt to get a rise out of a politically apathetic poster?
Uschi said: I won't rape you, I'll just fuck you 'till it hurts and then not stop and you'll cry.
MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost!
"I can't even brush my teeth without gagging!" - Tommy Tantillo: Wank & Cry, heckpuppy, and general laughingstock
Uschi said: I won't rape you, I'll just fuck you 'till it hurts and then not stop and you'll cry.
MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost!
"I can't even brush my teeth without gagging!" - Tommy Tantillo: Wank & Cry, heckpuppy, and general laughingstock
Hillary had a stronger case for being put on the ticket than any loser since Ronald Reagan in 1976. Her supporters in Denver this week are making no effort to bury their bitterness that she isn't making the fall run. Yet Mr. Obama knew that making her his running mate would have undermined his ability to govern if he wins. Americans don't want a three-person Presidency.
Even now, one gets a sense from the Clintons and some of their supporters that the nomination itself was stolen from them because Barack Obama played the race card and the media were biased in his favor. There's great irony in that since the Clintons were masters of the former and in 1992 were elevated by the same media.
No doubt they will put on a good show of support for Mr. Obama this week, and campaign for him through the fall. They will not want to be blamed if he loses. Even so, there is a palpable sense that they won't be surprised, or upset, if he does lose. Hillary and Bill can then set their sights on 2012.
Hillary had a stronger case for being put on the ticket than any loser since Ronald Reagan in 1976. Her supporters in Denver this week are making no effort to bury their bitterness that she isn't making the fall run. Yet Mr. Obama knew that making her his running mate would have undermined his ability to govern if he wins. Americans don't want a three-person Presidency.
Even now, one gets a sense from the Clintons and some of their supporters that the nomination itself was stolen from them because Barack Obama played the race card and the media were biased in his favor. There's great irony in that since the Clintons were masters of the former and in 1992 were elevated by the same media.
No doubt they will put on a good show of support for Mr. Obama this week, and campaign for him through the fall. They will not want to be blamed if he loses. Even so, there is a palpable sense that they won't be surprised, or upset, if he does lose. Hillary and Bill can then set their sights on 2012.
I would argue the bit about Americans seeing an Obama/Hillary ticket as a three way presidency or that they didn't want Hillary on the ticket. Polling showed alot of Dems wanting that "Dream Ticket". For whatever reason Obama decided not to consider Hillary beyond some empty lipservice about her being on anyone's short list. I would imagine that she will do & say all the right things & not pull a Ted Kennedy when he lost the nomination by a much larger margin. If Obama loses this one I don't doubt she won't feel bad about it. (who would blame her?) Perhaps 2012 will be her real moment?
He's pissed that Obama stole his last chance to chase chubby interns around the White House again.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet."
And that is precisely why Obama was never going to pick Hillary as VP.
Obama may be a dangerously underqualified closet Muslim socialist, but he's still smart enough to know that picking the Hildebeast as VP would have opened up a whole can of trouble because Bill would think he was still running the place.
“Suppose for example you’re a voter and you have candidate X and you have candidate Y,” Clinton said. “Candidate X agrees with you on everything but you don’t think that person can deliver on anything. Candidate Y disagrees with you on half the issues but you believe that on the other half, the candidate will be able to deliver.
this is actually very true, Obama can promise the world to left wing liberals but their best chance of getting their moderate liberal ideas into law is John McCain.
Yeah, I'm not saying Clinton's the slightest bit wrong. I'm only noting that no President wants someone hanging around the White House second-guessing them.
Bill would be kind of like Inspector Lugar on the old "Barney Miller" series: constantly barging into his old office to talk about the "good old days" when he was charge and keeping the current boss from getting any work done.
So far it's just rumor but there is a lot of buzz going aroind that Biden will step down in October and Hilary will replace him on the ticket. If this is true it shows 2 things about Obama he underestimated Sarah Palin(already shown I know), and he will say or do anything to get elected(already shown I know)...
Heh. What Rudy said at the convention: "I hope for his sake, Joe Biden got that VP thing in writing."
That might not be as easy as it sounds. I'm not sure about this but I think that could invalidate some states' ballots that late in the game, effectively ceding those states to McCain.
So far it's just rumor but there is a lot of buzz going aroind that Biden will step down in October and Hilary will replace him on the ticket. If this is true it shows 2 things about Obama he underestimated Sarah Palin(already shown I know), and he will say or do anything to get elected(already shown I know)...
At this point I can't see that happening. A switch at this point would hurt Obama unless Biden suffered some serious health problems & most people would reasonably agree that he couldn't do the VP thing. Considering all the crazy things alot of people are willing to say about Obama & feel very rightous about it I'm not even sure that scenario is even viable.
Yeah, I agree. I think that scenario, short of near fatal ailment in Biden, makes Obama, Biden AND Clinton look bad. Hillary would be very foolish to accept that at this point, especially if she is considering a 2012 run in the event McCain wins.
So far it's just rumor but there is a lot of buzz going aroind that Biden will step down in October and Hilary will replace him on the ticket. If this is true it shows 2 things about Obama he underestimated Sarah Palin(already shown I know), and he will say or do anything to get elected(already shown I know)...
At this point I can't see that happening. A switch at this point would hurt Obama unless Biden suffered some serious health problems & most people would reasonably agree that he couldn't do the VP thing. Considering all the crazy things alot of people are willing to say about Obama & feel very rightous about it I'm not even sure that scenario is even viable.
it;s far fetched in my opinion as well because he risks exposing his over-politicization at this point in the game where the spotlight is too bright. But at the same time he does feel his election is destiny he may be willing to do anything to win, also Biden would have to be in agreement, and have to "fake" a reason to drop out. A lot of big ifs, but like I said mostly rumor.
When Bill and Hillary first got married Bill said, "I am putting a box under our bed. You must promise never to look in it." In all their 30 years of marriage, Hillary never looked. However, on the afternoon of their 30th anniversary, curiosity got the better of her and she lifted the lid and peeked inside.
In the box there were 3 empty beer cans and $1,974.25 in cash. After dinner, Hillary could no longer contain her guilt and she confessed saying, "I am so sorry.. For all these years I kept my promise and never looked in the box under the bed. However, today the temptation was to much and I gave in. But now I need to know, Why do you keep the empty cans in the box?"
Bill thought for a while and said, "I guess that after all these years you deserve to know the truth. Whenever I was unfaithful to you, I put an empty beer can in the box to remind myself not to do it again."
Hillary was shocked, but thought to herself, "I am very disappointed and saddened, but I guess after all those years away from home on the road, temptation does happen and I guess three times is not that bad considering the number of years we have been together..."
They hugged and made their peace. A little while later, Hillary asked Bill, "So why do you have all that money in the box?"
Bill answered. "Well, whenever the box filled up with empty cans, I took them to the recycling center and redeemed them for cash."
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