Originally Posted By: Nowhereman
Pro, you do realise Tennant is an actor playing the part of The Doctor, and the Doctor isnt real, yeah?


*shock-and-sadness* :0

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Eccleston, for my money, didnt act, just like he rarely acts.
He just tends to go in and be Eccleston in every role he does, with very little variety.
Just look at his role in Heroes, its almost a carbon copy of his version of The Doctor.


I didn't see any of Number 9 in Claude, personally. Something that actually disappointed me, as I love to see him be The Doctor. However, understand I had never even heard of Eccleston before he was cast as the Ninth Doctor. Had to Google him to see what he even looked like. I wasn't expecting much, but I'm happy that I got so much more from him.

For those that have watched Eccles in other roles, I'm sure there's a different perspective. But, the anonymity of him was perfect (for me) to play The Doctor.

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Tennant though, the simple fact that he can overcome a Scottish accent (something Eccleston has never been able to do with his Northern accent), shows to me, that Tennant puts in more effort.


Nah, I don't agree. Just because Eccles likes to play roles in his native accent doesn't show me anything except that he has national pride. I can respect that, actually. I wish Tennant had played it with is natural accent, just as Piper's weird "f instead of t" pronunciations throw me off.

Understand, Tennant is a good Doctor. One of the best in the history of the show. But, I just felt more from Eccleston. He brought real, sincere emotion to the role. Tennant just screams a lot, and then all of a sudden he goes 'emo-face' and that's supposed to express sadness. I just don't buy it (although he did a fine job as the human John Smith in Human Nature/Family of Blood).

 Originally Posted By: Steve T
interesting, to me Tennant disapears intot he role more than Ecclestone, he's the one I would say I could see acting quite often.


I understand that point, just as I understand Cunty's perspective. I've got a few friends who feel the same way (that Eccles is playing The Doctor, and Tennant is The Doctor). I guess for me, the tortured, leather-clad, hellbent-for-danger, adrenaline-junkie that was the 9th Doctor was the first "new" incarnation of the character I had seen since Peter Davison. He was something completely original. Whereas, Tennant is zany, and quick-witted, and funny, and frantic, and manic, and all those things that make the 10th Doctor shine. But...I've seen him before. He's playing an amalgamation of previous Doctors. Eccles seemed to harness just himself in the role, much like Tom Baker did back in the day. And that's one of those comparisons I've always found fault with, when fans say Tennant is "the next Tom Baker". Nonsense. If anyone is truly the heir-apparent to the scarf-donned deity of the 4th Doctor, it's Christopher Eccleston.

But, that's all just my opinion... ;\)

 Originally Posted By: Franta
All right then

Ive had enough beers

and enough free time


to say


the last season finale


was very GAY

and i say that without being a homophobe as it was GAY


a clone doctor goes back with rose


Sarah's silly kid show is crossovered


TORCHWOODs touching all WHO taboos also crossing over

WHAT WAS THE POINT?!!?!?!?!?!?


A SMEGGING RED DWARF CROSSOVER WOULD HAVE MADE MORE SENSE ONLY BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVEBEEN FUN!!!!!!!!!



See, I didn't really mind the finale that much. I agree, there was some serious bad writing in there. Some very contrived scenes, and some forced characterization. RTD threw too much in at once and couldn't juggle the plot (per usual).

I hated the clone Doctor. But, from what I've read, RTD wrote that bit with Eccleston's 9th Doctor in mind. And if you watch it from that perspective, I can see where Tennant was channeling his inner Eccles for that bit.

But, it was fucking silly, overall.

The Davros stuff was fucking a-w-e-s-o-m-e. Best Davros ever. Seriously.

The crossovers were hit-or-miss. Torchwood was fine, Sarah-Jane herself was fine. But, like you say, the kid was too much, and I didn't need to see Martha's mother again. Glad they included Harriet Jones, Jackie, and Mickey, as well.

But, enough with Rose. I'm fucking sick of her and I hope we never see her again.

What pissed me off the most was the faux-regeneration crap. I don't like the idea of messing around with that stuff. It opens up too many questions and problems. If he's going to regenerate, it should be a special occasion with the actor leaving, NOT just for a cliffhanger. That's the kind of RTD stuff that grates me.

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the last season finale was so awfully contrivived that ANYONE who didnt like Eccleston should be shot....as his dismissal was likewise contrived for Tennants arrival...not that I dont like Tennant but feel that even more than Colin Bake and Sylvester McCoy he was given a raw deal and deserved a MUCH longer trial as MY doctor....

Prior the return of Doctor Who McCoy was my favorite.......Eccelston will reign forever as my favorite as he was not given his due


I would agree, except from what I understand it was Eccles decision to leave the show. I think he had certain ideas about working with RTD after Second Coming, and when he found out about the farting, and space pigs, and the like, he realized that Davies wasn't going to try to include any real substance in the show and decided to move on. The BBC screwed him over, though, when they broke their word and started making excuses to the press about why he was leaving (fear of typecasting, fatigue, etc). All of it was nonsense and lies, so he gave them the finger and has probably destroyed any hopes of ever getting him back into the role for an anniversary special. So, if you want to be pissed at the BBC about anything with Eccles, THAT would be the reason...