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Also, how come they're all moving and stuff if they're dead?


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And how come they are all like drawings n shit?

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I always like seeing the alternate costumes in stories like this and Elseworlds stuff since they'll never have the balls to do something drastic with Superman himself.

Also, since when is Death an emotion? "Little Billy's feeling a little death today. Maybe we should go out for ice cream. That'll brighten his mood."


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It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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Billy died and nobody told me?
You cunts!

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Um... we all kinda thought you knew considering you were the one who ran over him with the truck.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
I always like seeing the alternate costumes in stories like this and Elseworlds stuff since they'll never have the balls to do something drastic with Superman himself.


aye.

superman's suit could use a tweak here n'there. probably nothing super drastic, like the dead guy's suit, but something. still, i also enjoy all the variations allowed in alt stories / characters


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There's an article in Newsarama about the angry lolcat lantern. Apparently it was a one time joke by the artist but Johns liked it so he added him to the plot (to the artist's embarassment).


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 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
Um... we all kinda thought you knew considering you were the one who ran over him with the truck.

Nobody told me that a flattened cranium ended in death!

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Who is gonna talk about Battlestar Galactica now?

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 Originally Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
Also, how come they're all moving and stuff if they're dead?


You're example is actually a result of plot necessity. My example is a result of an artist who can't draw anything but supertypes. Please try and keep up.

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 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen
 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
I always like seeing the alternate costumes in stories like this and Elseworlds stuff since they'll never have the balls to do something drastic with Superman himself.


aye.

superman's suit could use a tweak here n'there. probably nothing super drastic, like the dead guy's suit, but something. still, i also enjoy all the variations allowed in alt stories / characters


I've liked stuff like the JLU Justice Lords Superman:


And the Reign of the Supermen Eradicator Supes costume:


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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Wizard did a mock up for an Superman revamp or "Ultimate Superman" a few years ago and the costume there was one of the better redesigns I've seen.



The only quibble I have with it is that the collar on the tunic is too high. It means that Clark couldn't wear the uniform under his work clothes for that classic "shirt ripping" pose.

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 Originally Posted By: thedoctor

And the Reign of the Supermen Eradicator Supes costume:


Y'like those blue blocker sunglasses? Date a lot of elderly people, do ya?


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I remember liking a lot of the redesigns in that issue. I think some design company did it just because. The Flash one looked kinda bad, though.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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 Originally Posted By: Joe Mama
 Originally Posted By: thedoctor

And the Reign of the Supermen Eradicator Supes costume:


Y'like those blue blocker sunglasses? Date a lot of elderly people, do ya?


To quote ZZTop, you gotta get yourself some cheap sunglasses.

The goggles were gay. I liked the black down the sides and connecting the cape to the 'S' shield.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man of Zur-En-Arrh
 Originally Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
Also, how come they're all moving and stuff if they're dead?


You're example is actually a result of plot necessity. My example is a result of an artist who can't draw anything but supertypes. Please try and keep up.


No, YOU'RE example!


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 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
I remember liking a lot of the redesigns in that issue. I think some design company did it just because. The Flash one looked kinda bad, though.


Yeah, the Flash design sucked and I didn't care for the faceplate and lack of white eye lenses in the Batman suit, but otherwise they were all pretty good:

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 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen
 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
I always like seeing the alternate costumes in stories like this and Elseworlds stuff since they'll never have the balls to do something drastic with Superman himself.


aye.

superman's suit could use a tweak here n'there. probably nothing super drastic, like the dead guy's suit, but something. still, i also enjoy all the variations allowed in alt stories / characters


I've liked stuff like the JLU Justice Lords Superman:


And the Reign of the Supermen Eradicator Supes costume:


those are also my two favorites, minus the goggles. i use the JL design in a lot of sketches i do.

eradicator's seems like it could actually pass as an update to superman's suit, since it just tweaks and updates the current design.


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I'm still placing the bet that this is 52 Earth 2 Superman and not Kal-L from the original multiverse.

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 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen
 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen
 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
I always like seeing the alternate costumes in stories like this and Elseworlds stuff since they'll never have the balls to do something drastic with Superman himself.


aye.

superman's suit could use a tweak here n'there. probably nothing super drastic, like the dead guy's suit, but something. still, i also enjoy all the variations allowed in alt stories / characters


I've liked stuff like the JLU Justice Lords Superman:


And the Reign of the Supermen Eradicator Supes costume:


those are also my two favorites, minus the goggles. i use the JL design in a lot of sketches i do.

eradicator's seems like it could actually pass as an update to superman's suit, since it just tweaks and updates the current design.



real quick sample:



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just quick for the purpose of color treatment

likely far too drastic for any real update/upgrade consideration, but i prefer the look. i like keeping the s-shield essentially unchanged, rather than the sylized looks; simply because its just so goddamn iconic at this point, i think it should be unchangeable. however, incorporating it into the other portions of the suit a bit more gives the illusion that its new.

the red connects all limbs, wrapping over the tricep, then back around to the front and over the hands. threw in some gloves -- probably the boldest of changes. but makes sense since superman's fingerprints would be somewhat similar to clark's. but, really, the treatment was designed to make sense of the boots. it allows the character to keep the red boots, (i.e; red color in that area) without them having to be as silly as "boots" - same for the red around the midsection without needing outer-undies; still the most ridiculous concept in comics. also the same idea used for the yellow around the midsection -- just non-functional color to keep the suit resembling the modern day design (and something, as a fan, i think is very sorely missing from the wizard design)

whenever i worked up images of a batsuit upgrade, i always like the idea that everything on his suit is entirely functional. superman's is just the opposite - its stylistic design. meant to be just a symbol for people to recognize and inspiring hope. i think this has a few more kryptonian touches to it, as well -- borrowing from some of the designs we've seen kryptonians wear (i.e; the color "bar" down the front and cape in the back resembling the kryptonian... poncho?)


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 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
 Originally Posted By: Joe Mama
 Originally Posted By: thedoctor

And the Reign of the Supermen Eradicator Supes costume:


Y'like those blue blocker sunglasses? Date a lot of elderly people, do ya?


To quote ZZTop, you gotta get yourself some cheap sunglasses.

The goggles were gay. I liked the black...


Well you know what they say: once you go black, you never go back.


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And you never did go back, Joe. You never did.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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But you did, Doc. Over and over again, insatiably.


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 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen



just quick for the purpose of color treatment

likely far too drastic for any real update/upgrade consideration, but i prefer the look. i like keeping the s-shield essentially unchanged, rather than the sylized looks; simply because its just so goddamn iconic at this point, i think it should be unchangeable. however, incorporating it into the other portions of the suit a bit more gives the illusion that its new.

the red connects all limbs, wrapping over the tricep, then back around to the front and over the hands. threw in some gloves -- probably the boldest of changes. but makes sense since superman's fingerprints would be somewhat similar to clark's. but, really, the treatment was designed to make sense of the boots. it allows the character to keep the red boots, (i.e; red color in that area) without them having to be as silly as "boots" - same for the red around the midsection without needing outer-undies; still the most ridiculous concept in comics. also the same idea used for the yellow around the midsection -- just non-functional color to keep the suit resembling the modern day design (and something, as a fan, i think is very sorely missing from the wizard design)

whenever i worked up images of a batsuit upgrade, i always like the idea that everything on his suit is entirely functional. superman's is just the opposite - its stylistic design. meant to be just a symbol for people to recognize and inspiring hope. i think this has a few more kryptonian touches to it, as well -- borrowing from some of the designs we've seen kryptonians wear (i.e; the color "bar" down the front and cape in the back resembling the kryptonian... poncho?)


cool


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I'm still placing the bet that this is 52 Earth 2 Superman and not Kal-L from the original multiverse.


I think it was established by the JSA Earth 2 arc that they're pretty much the same thing.


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 Originally Posted By: Joe Mama
But you did, Doc. Over and over again, insatiably.


What can I say? Some days I want my Jeanna Brooks. Others I want my Gianna Michaels. You, on the other hand, keep your choice limited to your Michael Clarke Duncans and Ving Rhames.


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It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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 Originally Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen



just quick for the purpose of color treatment

likely far too drastic for any real update/upgrade consideration, but i prefer the look. i like keeping the s-shield essentially unchanged, rather than the sylized looks; simply because its just so goddamn iconic at this point, i think it should be unchangeable. however, incorporating it into the other portions of the suit a bit more gives the illusion that its new.

the red connects all limbs, wrapping over the tricep, then back around to the front and over the hands. threw in some gloves -- probably the boldest of changes. but makes sense since superman's fingerprints would be somewhat similar to clark's. but, really, the treatment was designed to make sense of the boots. it allows the character to keep the red boots, (i.e; red color in that area) without them having to be as silly as "boots" - same for the red around the midsection without needing outer-undies; still the most ridiculous concept in comics. also the same idea used for the yellow around the midsection -- just non-functional color to keep the suit resembling the modern day design (and something, as a fan, i think is very sorely missing from the wizard design)

whenever i worked up images of a batsuit upgrade, i always like the idea that everything on his suit is entirely functional. superman's is just the opposite - its stylistic design. meant to be just a symbol for people to recognize and inspiring hope. i think this has a few more kryptonian touches to it, as well -- borrowing from some of the designs we've seen kryptonians wear (i.e; the color "bar" down the front and cape in the back resembling the kryptonian... poncho?)


cool


I agree. That's a pretty good design. Especially from someone not in the business.


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It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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 Originally Posted By: thedoctor


Also, since when is Death an emotion? "Little Billy's feeling a little death today. Maybe we should go out for ice cream. That'll brighten his mood."


Well since black is the absence of color, I'm guessing Black Lanterns are absent of emotions. And dead people don't have emotions and stuff. So they're like black.

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ADVENTURE COMICS #1
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Art by Francis Manapul, co-feature art by Clayton Henry
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It's the return of one of DC Comics' longest running books and one of its greatest modern-day heroes – Conner Kent! In our first heroic issue, Superboy can't wait to jump back into his life – but which life will it be? With a clarity he's never had before, Conner makes a beeline for the greatest place on Earth...Smallville?

Plus, in the wake of FINAL CRISIS: LEGION OF THREE WORLDS, Starman heads off on an all-new mission in the present. And it's one that will not only impact Superboy, but the future of the DC Universe itself. Fortunately, the off-kilter Legionnaire won't be dong it alone! And in the upcoming months of ADVENTURE COMICS look for Lex Luthor! Brainiac! Lightning Lad! Superboy's pal Simple Simon! Sun Boy and Polar Boy! Ultra, the Multi Alien! Wonder Girl! Black Lantern Alexander Luthor! And many, many more new and familiar faces!

Retailers please note: This issue will ship with two covers. For every 10 copies of the Standard Edition (with a cover by Francis Manapul), retailers may order one copy of the Variant Edition (with a cover by Francis Manapul and renamed ADVENTURE COMICS #504). Please see the Previews Order Form for more information.
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 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
 Originally Posted By: Joe Mama
But you did, Doc. Over and over again, insatiably.


What can I say? Some days I want my Jeanna Brooks. Others I want my Gianna Michaels. You, on the other hand, keep your choice limited to your Michael Clarke Duncans and Ving Rhames.


Some days, it's Jeanna Brooks, others, it's Gianna Michaels. Most days for Doc, it's a combination of Chris Tucker, Mos Def, and...Knurkel.


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Black Lantern Alexander Luthor!


Well, he certainly had the afro to pull it off...


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 Originally Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
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I'm still placing the bet that this is 52 Earth 2 Superman and not Kal-L from the original multiverse.


I think it was established by the JSA Earth 2 arc that they're pretty much the same thing.


I thought it was a different Kal-L much the same that the new Earth 2 had its own Power Girl.

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 Originally Posted By: Joe Mama
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But you did, Doc. Over and over again, insatiably.


What can I say? Some days I want my Jeanna Brooks. Others I want my Gianna Michaels. You, on the other hand, keep your choice limited to your Michael Clarke Duncans and Ving Rhames.


Some days, it's Jeanna Brooks, others, it's Gianna Michaels. Most days for Doc, it's a combination of Chris Tucker, Mos Def, and...Knurkel.


You have gone the way of the G-man retort, Joe. It's sad, really.


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This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
 Originally Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
 Originally Posted By: Rob Kamphausen



just quick for the purpose of color treatment

likely far too drastic for any real update/upgrade consideration, but i prefer the look. i like keeping the s-shield essentially unchanged, rather than the sylized looks; simply because its just so goddamn iconic at this point, i think it should be unchangeable. however, incorporating it into the other portions of the suit a bit more gives the illusion that its new.

the red connects all limbs, wrapping over the tricep, then back around to the front and over the hands. threw in some gloves -- probably the boldest of changes. but makes sense since superman's fingerprints would be somewhat similar to clark's. but, really, the treatment was designed to make sense of the boots. it allows the character to keep the red boots, (i.e; red color in that area) without them having to be as silly as "boots" - same for the red around the midsection without needing outer-undies; still the most ridiculous concept in comics. also the same idea used for the yellow around the midsection -- just non-functional color to keep the suit resembling the modern day design (and something, as a fan, i think is very sorely missing from the wizard design)

whenever i worked up images of a batsuit upgrade, i always like the idea that everything on his suit is entirely functional. superman's is just the opposite - its stylistic design. meant to be just a symbol for people to recognize and inspiring hope. i think this has a few more kryptonian touches to it, as well -- borrowing from some of the designs we've seen kryptonians wear (i.e; the color "bar" down the front and cape in the back resembling the kryptonian... poncho?)


cool


I agree. That's a pretty good design. Especially from someone not in the business.


And gay.


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 Originally Posted By: iggy
 Originally Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
 Originally Posted By: iggy
I'm still placing the bet that this is 52 Earth 2 Superman and not Kal-L from the original multiverse.


I think it was established by the JSA Earth 2 arc that they're pretty much the same thing.


I thought it was a different Kal-L much the same that the new Earth 2 had its own Power Girl.


Oh, right. That was the whole point of the arc, now that I think about. Heh.

I guess we'll find out when they show him crawling out of his grave.


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 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
 Originally Posted By: Joe Mama
 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
 Originally Posted By: Joe Mama
But you did, Doc. Over and over again, insatiably.


What can I say? Some days I want my Jeanna Brooks. Others I want my Gianna Michaels. You, on the other hand, keep your choice limited to your Michael Clarke Duncans and Ving Rhames.


Some days, it's Jeanna Brooks, others, it's Gianna Michaels. Most days for Doc, it's a combination of Chris Tucker, Mos Def, and...Knurkel.


You have gone the way of the G-man retort, Joe. It's sad, really.


I can only work with the material given, Doc. When you feed me a crap line, you get a crap line back.

Like the previous one. You show me where I posted a Youtube clip or quoted the AP wire. You show me where I made some comment about liberals or conservatives. You fail, Doc. Twice.


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 Originally Posted By: Joe Mama
 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
 Originally Posted By: Joe Mama
 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
 Originally Posted By: Joe Mama
But you did, Doc. Over and over again, insatiably.


What can I say? Some days I want my Jeanna Brooks. Others I want my Gianna Michaels. You, on the other hand, keep your choice limited to your Michael Clarke Duncans and Ving Rhames.


Some days, it's Jeanna Brooks, others, it's Gianna Michaels. Most days for Doc, it's a combination of Chris Tucker, Mos Def, and...Knurkel.


You have gone the way of the G-man retort, Joe. It's sad, really.


I can only work with the material given, Doc. When you feed me a crap line, you get a crap line back.

Like the previous one. You show me where I posted a Youtube clip or quoted the AP wire. You show me where I made some comment about liberals or conservatives. You fail, Doc. Twice.


From a G-man retort to a rex retort. It's getting worse.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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