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I couldn't disagree with you more on this one. the forum is based on rolling with the punches. if you question or fight the punches, it doesn't work. if you then throw your own punches, without rolling with others, you've become hypocritical. we've seen many come and go that were unable to handle it - it's not an easy methodology, but it is a simple one. taking it (too) seriously is bad. if you can't have fun with it, then why bother doing it? presactly. I have been on the receiving end (har har) my fair share of times. at first I would get pissy about it and complain about getting picked on, but anymore I find myself laughing along with most of it. it's about the art of the insult - any iconolast tard can throw together a half-assed photoshop of me, but it takes a nöwheremän or a jaburg to craft something genuinely inspired. you need to be able to laugh at yourself if you plan on getting through life without becoming an insufferable asshole and/or a serial killer. and let's face it - some people just plain have it coming. however polite or well-mannered catfuck might have been, he was clearly not right in the head. numerous posters have come and gone who simply couldn't hack it for whatever reason. we are our own quality-control mechanism, and these boards just plain aren't for everyone. but whether or not you decide to stick around and figure out how to make it here, bitching about getting made fun of isn't gonna help your cause any.
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also nobody complained when we ran Black Machismo off the boards forever.
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As always, I can only speak for myself since I don't really know or decide what the other posters think. But I started ribbing on Snarf when it looked like he was going after rex in the women's forum even though the banter was between rex and wondy's alt.
I felt like he was trying to divert a lot of the heat he has been recently getting by ripping on the guy who he thought was lower than him on the board's "cool" ranking or whatever popularity measuring scale he thought there was on the board. What makes it even lamer is that it was Wondy/Holden who's been fighting rex, he just jumped in and joined.
Add the fact that he started a thread bitching about how everybody still ribbed him even though he was trying to shit on rex. People still like to make fun of rex, Snarf. But the current situation puts you in the position where you're more likely to be made fun of.
Here's the key difference between you and rex: rex is a callous prick. You're a whiny bitch (for example, both of you have never had sex with a woman, but reax has not made any thread whining about the fact).
If there ever was a measuring scale for coolness in the RKMBs, I would assume that rex is higher because he at least has a backbone.
yup To clarify, someone who is cool and regarded as one of you (at least for now, but in a week you'll be attacking rex again for the sock-fucking socially challenged misfit that he is), you spin as "having backbone" and standing up for himself. Someone you subjectively label as not cool, you spin as being PWNED and "weak" for standing up for themself and lashing back in a counter-post. Any response whatsoever is regarded by you as being controlled and forced by the other person to respond, followed by declarations of "ass kicking" and "I WIN !" and so forth. And again, how is that response by Joe Mama, BSAMS, or Nowhereman, any different from that of Halo82 ? You lack a respectable objective standard. You are just grouchy cause you lack Snarfs cock in your arse. I'm sure he will give in and run to your arms soon!
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Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see where Snarf has committed any major sins of self-pity. I guess Holden McGroin and WB really are two different people ...because if WB was Holden how could he have missed this?
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But again, I don't see the subjective distaste you guys have for Snarf as having any real basis. What you label Snarf for "whining" about, you have absolutely no problem with when Nowhereman posts a thread about being suspended and later fired from his job. Because, as Snarf said above, Nowhereman is one of the guys you regard as "cool". And Snarf is a guy you regard as not cool, and target for maximum harassment. You would never go for Nowhereman the way you go after Snarf. Their two topics are arguably the same mindset, frustration over a loss, but you spin Snarf's as self-pity and Nowhereman's as self-deprecating.
Did you actually read my post about job loss? There was a quite imprtant bit in it where I said "I dont give a shit!" I wasnt whining as quite frankly, I am fucking happy to be out of that shit cunt job. The big difference between that post and Snarfs posts is that I wasnt whining and crying "Oh woe is me!". I was putting something out there that quite frankly, could have been used as a butt of peoples jokes, but the fact that I had such a dont give a shit attitude about it, kinda stops it being worth doing a joke about! RKMBs:"Nowhereman lost his job cause he called someone a cunt!" Me:"Yup!" Now thats a difference to: RKMBs:"Snarf is a whiney virgin!" Snarf:"Stop picking on me!" Like Snarf, you are trying to justify his patheticness, by comparing it to something else that has no actual relation to the subject at hand. If people want to take the piss out of me for being out of work currently, or that I was fired, it wont bother me in the slightest, cause I am happy with the situation. Snarf is obviously not happy with his situation. I really dont regard anyone as "cool" on a message board, and would find it pretty humourous if anyone found me to be "cool", because that means you have problems differenciating between real life and the internet. When you post here, you can be anything you want to be, so if your aim is to be a self pitying, pathetic worm, thats pretty fucked up!
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this very thread, questioning the notion of being picked on, is exactly the summary of why individuals are picked on. its not that it's an un-discussable topic, but if you don't get it, you wont get it. its a beautiful art form and one that must be appreciated, practiced, and nurtured. doing so a little bit, even ...oh... 75% of the way, just isn't gonna cut it..
meanwhile, the delightful upstart, a newly registered member known only as "nosexman," is able to throw a few self-deprecating and funny quips into identical situations; a significant improvement. nosexman is a godsend and should be your mentor.
in summation:
no one likes you, snarf. you are shit and your death will be rejoiced. Why thankyou Mister Kamphausen, sir. It is not often that one such as I, gets a compliment of such a stirling quality. I can only say that if I ever get the chance to take over from King Snarf, I will do my best to not be such a gay retard.
Rob Kamphausen said: no one likes you, snarf. you are shit and your death will be rejoiced.
Nöwheremän said: Fuck off you whiney bald virgin cunt!
BASAMS The Plumber said: 2 asians, 1 cup!
All kill King Snarf!
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I have a slightly different take. I read "I have a slightly different cake". Cakes are good.
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The exchanges can often be funny. And I think all of us at times can either roll with the punches as you say, or take things too seriously, and open ourselves up for ridicule.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see where Snarf has committed any major sins of self-pity. I've seen him be as self-deprecating as he has been arguably self-pitying.
For the most part, everyone here has been harassed at one point or another (or an alternate way to looked at it, everyone has been teased, played with and tested.) Sometimes it's hard to tell whether it's banter, or a serious answer is truly expected. Look at it this way: Everything can be treated like a joke even while giving your honest opinion about something. You'd probably identify with our point of view moreso if you look at this situation like you view topics about political correctness (I'm assuming you think it's crap). While you realize that 95% of the conversations here revolve around insults, you still expect there to be a gray area where people at least quietly acknowledge that some things should be considered sacred here like, say, going easy on Snarf who's basically the RKMBs whipping boy. It doesn't do you any good to think that way.
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as Beardguy said to me himself privately, he could tolerate your pussy shit forever He said to you (in private) he liked your pussy shit? Dude, why do you have a pussy? And why do you poo through it?
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this very thread, questioning the notion of being picked on, is exactly the summary of why individuals are picked on. its not that it's an un-discussable topic, but if you don't get it, you wont get it. its a beautiful art form and one that must be appreciated, practiced, and nurtured. doing so a little bit, even ...oh... 75% of the way, just isn't gonna cut it..
meanwhile, the delightful upstart, a newly registered member known only as "nosexman," is able to throw a few self-deprecating and funny quips into identical situations; a significant improvement. nosexman is a godsend and should be your mentor.
in summation:
no one likes you, snarf. you are shit and your death will be rejoiced. I actually thought this was an alt, until I saw the post-count. That's beneath you, Rob. I've been accused of kissing your ass in the past, but I couldn't disagree with you more on this one.  Hey look, that bird flew right over that penguin and that seal. That oblivious fucking seal.
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Regarding the analysis by several here of Beardguy and Snarf, I disagree on both.
Beardguy was a really nice guy, and that kindness and appreciation for things came out in all his posts. Not everything he posted was interesting to me, but the spirit behind it made it more interesting to me. I liked having him here. And the people who drove him away, I regarded well before he was driven off as rude, vulgar, cynical and unpleasant assholes. The type who enjoy ruining others' happiness. I'd gladly take a hundred thousand Beardguys in exchange for any one of you. but just through sheer unimaginative harassment, you made him want to leave. And even in that you actually lost, because as Beardguy said to me himself privately, he could tolerate your pussy shit forever, he just chose to leave and not waste his time and energy with your collective pettiness. Key operative word: he CHOSE to leave, none of you idiots drove him away. Regarding the vindictive prying into his personal life: so what if he lied and said his x-boyfriend is dead. I'm sympathetic to the fact that it was difficult breakup for him, and in essence, the guy is dead to Beardguy, and is out of Beardguy's life. I see it as a difficult chapter in his life, and that's how he was able to deal with it. Which still doesn't make Beardguy any less of a nice guy. And still ten times better a human being than most of you. I finally read this bit. You really are deluded arent you? Simple fact is, no matter what he said about leaving to you in private, he did not choose to leave, he felt he had to leave because a bunch of people called him on his shit, and he started claiming to be having heart problems because of it. Its easy to say he could take "our pussy shit" forever, but the fact that he reckoned it was killing him, and he ran away, shows he didnt chose to leave on his own terms. Saying in publuc that its killing him and in private saying something else is quite laughable, as surely it should be the other way round if he wants people to think he had won anything. Also, on the subject of his lover, you say its vindictive prying, but I say that it would only be prying aif we had gone looking for this without him first telling us about his "loss", and would only be vindictive if he hadnt lied to try to get a sympathy vote. You say his break up was tough, and thats why he did it, but that to me does not justify trying to get unwarranted sympathy out of people, not only by lying that his lover had died, but even going as far as to make up a cause of death. He was trying to portray himself as a victim of life, when in reality, for all me we know, he split with his boyfriend because he had been a cunt. I mean, its not like he is above lying, so who's to say he hadnt lied to his boyfriend about something, and got called on it. If he told you why they split, how do you know he told you the truth? He already lied once about what happened, so who's to say he didnt lie to you as well? Your defense of him is as transparent as your defense of Snarf, as neither has any substance to them to back up your so called "facts" of why they are such wonderful people.
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I hate to sound like a kiss ass and a parrot, but I got to go with the majority opinion on this one. Hell, I was introduced to this place because retards like Halo and Whomod took all of this stuff way too seriously. It is the internet. Don't stress out and buy into the "cyber-bully" hype.
As for the picking-on people thing, it happens. If you are really that afraid of it then tailor your posts and all you say in such a way that you don't think anything you said could be used for picking-on you. You'll fail, but you can try. It isn't easy. Learning to roll with the punches is. Hell, if people took me to task for my emo post about Knitwit yesterday...I'd understand. I sounded like a half-crazed, love-struck idiot.
BTW, nothing personal against you, Wondy. And, Snarf, you're still a cunt.
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The only thing I am gonna take you to task over with that emo post is that there were no nude pictures!
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Alright, I'm done arguing this. No matter what point I bring up, it's always twisted around back at me. Say what you want, I don't give a shit anymore.
Knutreturns said: Spoken like the true Greatest RDCW Champ!
All hail King Snarf!
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the forum is based on rolling with the punches. if you question or fight the punches, it doesn't work. if you then throw your own punches, without rolling with , you've become hypocritical. we've seen many come and go that were unable to handle it - it's not an easy methodology, but it is a simple one.
taking it (too) seriously is bad. if you can't have fun with it, then why bother doing it? presactly. I have been on the receiving end (har har) my fair share of times. at first I would get pissy about it and complain about getting picked on, but anymore I find myself laughing along with most of it. it's about the art of the insult - any iconolast tard can throw together a half-assed photoshop of me, but it takes a nöwheremän or a jaburg to craft something genuinely inspired. you need to be able to laugh at yourself if you plan on getting through life without becoming an insufferable asshole and/or a serial killer. and let's face it - some people just plain have it coming. however polite or well-mannered catfuck might have been, he was clearly not right in the head. numerous posters have come and gone who simply couldn't hack it for whatever reason. we are our own quality-control mechanism, and these boards just plain aren't for everyone. but whether or not you decide to stick around and figure out how to make it here, bitching about getting made fun of isn't gonna help your cause any. Well said. Okay, yeah. I like Beardguy, but I can't dispute that. And at one point or another, we've all had our sacred issues that we got overly hot about and were called on with a good round of abuse, to snap us back into humility. And I've accepted that to a degree, that it isn't always handed out fairly, but it averages out in the end. In Beardguy's case, and a few others like Princess Elisa, I think there's a hell-bent determinedness by some to bring out the ugliest possible reaction in even the nicest person. Which on one level, proves that no matter how nice someone is, they're still capable of fighting back with a vengeance when pushed to the wall. But I think that cornered potential is just a given, and don't really see the point in pushing someone to that level. Or passively accepting it. I often think the "nice" people on these boards get the maximim abuse, because they often won't fight back. And then if they do, they're labelled as hypocrites by some abstraction for just defending themselves. In another example, Prometheus' wife, or M E M's real name (as taunted by G-man's alt) are considered off-limits, and when they voice objection, everyone backs off (and I agree with and even openly advocated the backing off as well in M E M's case, and even in the case of Whomod's wife/alt, loathesome as I find Whomod). But conversely, absolutely no boundaries are respected regarding G-man's personal life, or (another example) my Phillipine girlfriend. In the topic about Kabul Zick, the folks who piled on G-man, conversely had no problem with similar abuses from their side, pointed out in the topic. So while I'd agree for the most part we all take our share of abuse, and some handle it better than others, it still seems there's some for whom the abuse runs especially high. Although at times, even those who are defended at one point from things deemed over the line, these same people are later given no-holds-barred treatment. So I'm torn, because I don't like the overly mean stuff. It's ugly, and I just don't like to see iton the boards. But I guess it's just reality, in RKMB microcosm. Even those who dish it out most here seem to get their payback at some point. And if you stick around long enough, you see that, while often ugly, it is for the most part fairly distributed.
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beardguy was a worthless piece of shit. Stop making him out to be something he wasn't.
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There's has always been one unwritten rule here.
If you say something stupid, you're gonna get called out on it. If you be a little bitch about it, you're gonna get ganged up on.
Victimizing yourself (see beardguy, snarf, mem, wonder mcgroin etc...) you're gonna lose all respect from the people here. This board is run by bullies. That's the way it should be. If you're weak or "nice" you're not gonna fit in here. If you can't take some teasing you won't like it here. If you're a pansy there are plenty of other moderated boards you can post on.
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Alright, I'm done arguing this. No matter what point I bring up, it's always twisted around back at me. Say what you want, I don't give a shit anymore. Good, now kill yourself!
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this very thread, questioning the notion of being picked on, is exactly the summary of why individuals are picked on. its not that it's an un-discussable topic, but if you don't get it, you wont get it. its a beautiful art form and one that must be appreciated, practiced, and nurtured. doing so a little bit, even ...oh... 75% of the way, just isn't gonna cut it..
meanwhile, the delightful upstart, a newly registered member known only as "nosexman," is able to throw a few self-deprecating and funny quips into identical situations; a significant improvement. nosexman is a godsend and should be your mentor.
in summation:
no one likes you, snarf. you are shit and your death will be rejoiced. I actually thought this was an alt, until I saw the post-count. That's beneath you, Rob. I've been accused of kissing your ass in the past, but I couldn't disagree with you more on this one.  Hey look, that bird flew right over that penguin and that seal. That oblivious fucking seal. 
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Alright, I'm done arguing this. No matter what point I bring up, it's always twisted around back at me. Say what you want, I don't give a shit anymore. Youre done when we say youre done. We dont need your permission to say what we want we already do!
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beardguy was a worthless piece of shit. Stop making him out to be something he wasn't.
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In Beardguy's case, and a few others like Princess Elisa, I think there's a hell-bent determinedness by some to bring out the ugliest possible reaction in even the nicest person. you really are a naive dumbass arent you? Elisa was posting the private conversations her very young students were having with her on the fucking internet. how the hell is that a nice person? if my son or daughter confided in their teacher and she posted it on the internet i would be furious, being as you are gay youll likely never have children but if you did you would be mad too. just as with beardguy you were duped into thinking someone was nice that wasnt.
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Elisa was posting the private conversations her very young students were having with her on the fucking internet. how the hell is that a nice person? if my son or daughter confided in their teacher and she posted it on the internet i would be furious, being as you are gay youll likely never have children but if you did you would be mad too.
I'm not defending Elisa, but unless anyone knows Elisa's real name, or she used the real name of the kids I would say that makes her foolish, as opposed to "not a nice person." Personally, I think this particular aspect of the whole debate is rather pointless. This isn't about who is or isn't a good person. It's about people getting their panties in a twist because they were picked on at a message board. As such, there's no reason to bother "justifying" whether or not Beardguy or Elisa "deserve" to get picked on. It's a fucking message board, not Gitmo.
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Also with Elsia, its all about trying to force her moral values on people.
The way she critisised sneaky bunny for posting topless photos, was quite frankly the straw that broke the camels back with me. Just because she thought it made sneaky a lesser person, doesnt mean anyone else did. Not our fault she was such a prude, but dont try to force your beliefs on us (especially after attention whoring pictures she kept posting of herself).
Also, the whole posting of the personal info about her school kids, was disgusting, as basams said. You can post anything about your job on here, but if you are a teacher, lawyer, doctor or someone else entrusted with confidential, personal info, in a position of trust, you should not be discussing that anywhere, let alone on a forum like this!
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Elisa was posting the private conversations her very young students were having with her on the fucking internet. how the hell is that a nice person? if my son or daughter confided in their teacher and she posted it on the internet i would be furious, being as you are gay youll likely never have children but if you did you would be mad too.
I'm defending Elisa, but unless anyone knows Elisa's real name, or she used the real name of the kids I would say that makes her foolish, as opposed to "not a nice person." She has mentioned her own name several times, and at least mentioned the kids first names!
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As such, there's no reason to bother "justifying" whether or not Beardguy or Elisa "deserve" to get picked on. It's a fucking message board, not Gitmo.
beardguy deserved to be harassed because he thought he was better than everyone else.
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Princess is another poster who like Beardguy see themselves as something they are not.
They portray themselves as sweet, caring people and when people call them on their shit they play themselves the victim.
So all the casual (moron?) poster just "sees" some "innocent" poster "attacked".
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yeah, but I still come back, Jaburg, to the idea of 'who gives a fuck'?
This board is meant for people who like to give shit and don't mind getting it.
Trying to quantify which posters do or don't deserve the treatment that this board is about is, IMHO, counter to what the board is.
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you really are a naive dumbass arent you? Elisa was posting the private conversations her very young students were having with her on the fucking internet. how the hell is that a nice person? if my son or daughter confided in their teacher and she posted it on the internet i would be furious, being as you are gay youll likely never have children but if you did you would be mad too.
just as with beardguy you were duped into thinking someone was nice that wasnt. It pains me to do so, but I'll play Southern Baptist's advocate and say that, unless she didn't preserve the anonymity of the students she mentioned, it's a tad unfair to condemn her character based on that. I personally find her more protestant opinions more annoying.
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But again, I don't see the subjective distaste you guys have for Snarf as having any real basis. What you label Snarf for "whining" about, you have absolutely no problem with when Nowhereman posts a thread about being suspended and later fired from his job. Because, as Snarf said above, Nowhereman is one of the guys you regard as "cool". And Snarf is a guy you regard as not cool, and target for maximum harassment. You would never go for Nowhereman the way you go after Snarf. Their two topics are arguably the same mindset, frustration over a loss, but you spin Snarf's as self-pity and Nowhereman's as self-deprecating.
Did you actually read my post about job loss? There was a quite imprtant bit in it where I said "I dont give a shit!" I wasnt whining as quite frankly, I am fucking happy to be out of that shit cunt job. The big difference between that post and Snarfs posts is that I wasnt whining and crying "Oh woe is me!". I was putting something out there that quite frankly, could have been used as a butt of peoples jokes, but the fact that I had such a dont give a shit attitude about it, kinda stops it being worth doing a joke about! RKMBs:"Nowhereman lost his job cause he called someone a cunt!" Me:"Yup!" Now thats a difference to: RKMBs:"Snarf is a whiney virgin!" Snarf:"Stop picking on me!" Like Snarf, you are trying to justify his patheticness, by comparing it to something else that has no actual relation to the subject at hand. If people want to take the piss out of me for being out of work currently, or that I was fired, it wont bother me in the slightest, cause I am happy with the situation. Snarf is obviously not happy with his situation. I really dont regard anyone as "cool" on a message board, and would find it pretty humourous if anyone found me to be "cool", because that means you have problems differenciating between real life and the internet. When you post here, you can be anything you want to be, so if your aim is to be a self pitying, pathetic worm, thats pretty fucked up! Well, like prometheus said... Snarf, I think you're an okay guy! topic ...Snarf isn't a bad looking guy. He's also a nice guy, probably good company that a lot of women would welcome. So despite his possibly not appreciating it, he has no reason not to be confident. As I said before, I was 26 when I had my first serious relationship. Once you've flown, it's a lot easier to fly. I think for the most part, you were very assertive and fearless when you left your job. It's commendable that you have that confidence, that it didn't get to you, and you can just move on. But in one aspect, you arguably were like Snarf, in that you vented frustration about what happened to you, that a female co-worker stabbed you in the back, and vented that your boss unfairly came down on you for bitching about work on your own website. (In your boss' defense, it was right out there for him to see, exactly what you thought of him and work. In YOUR defense, you didn't name names so the company was openly humiliated online.) But it's a fine line. The difference is you said "fuck it, it happened, I'm moving on". Whereas Snarf (at least in his opening post), sunk into self-doubt and was discouraged from trying again. I agree that wallowing in self-doubt isn't going to help him to his goal, IF that's what he's doing. But telling Snarf in topic after topic that he's a loser and a virgin who's never going to get laid is not exactly helping the ssituation. I guess you'd label that as "Rob Kamphaausen tough love" ?
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yeah, but I still come back, Jaburg, to the idea of 'who gives a fuck'?
This board is meant for people who like to give shit and don't mind getting it.
Trying to quantify which posters do or don't deserve the treatment that this board is about is, IMHO, counter to what the board is. The point is, everyone deserves to be ripped on, its just that some make themselves bigger targets, then piss and moan about it, making themselves even bigger targets. For instance, can you honestly tell me that a guy like Whomod, does not deserve to be ripped on more than someone like allan1? While there is something to be said for your argument, you have to accept that there will always be reasons why someone "deserves" to be ripped on more than someone else? I mean, when you rip on rex or Halo, isnt it because they have given you a good reason to do so?
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you really are a naive dumbass arent you? Elisa was posting the private conversations her very young students were having with her on the fucking internet. how the hell is that a nice person? if my son or daughter confided in their teacher and she posted it on the internet i would be furious, being as you are gay youll likely never have children but if you did you would be mad too.
just as with beardguy you were duped into thinking someone was nice that wasnt. It pains me to do so, but I'll play Southern Baptist's advocate and say that, unless she didn't preserve the anonymity of the students she mentioned, it's a tad unfair to condemn her character based on that. She fucking named the kids, how is that anonymity?
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She fucking named the kids, how is that anonymity? If that's true, then fair enough.
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But again, I don't see the subjective distaste you guys have for Snarf as having any real basis. What you label Snarf for "whining" about, you have absolutely no problem with when Nowhereman posts a thread about being suspended and later fired from his job. Because, as Snarf said above, Nowhereman is one of the guys you regard as "cool". And Snarf is a guy you regard as not cool, and target for maximum harassment. You would never go for Nowhereman the way you go after Snarf. Their two topics are arguably the same mindset, frustration over a loss, but you spin Snarf's as self-pity and Nowhereman's as self-deprecating.
Did you actually read my post about job loss? There was a quite imprtant bit in it where I said "I dont give a shit!" I wasnt whining as quite frankly, I am fucking happy to be out of that shit cunt job. The big difference between that post and Snarfs posts is that I wasnt whining and crying "Oh woe is me!". I was putting something out there that quite frankly, could have been used as a butt of peoples jokes, but the fact that I had such a dont give a shit attitude about it, kinda stops it being worth doing a joke about! RKMBs:"Nowhereman lost his job cause he called someone a cunt!" Me:"Yup!" Now thats a difference to: RKMBs:"Snarf is a whiney virgin!" Snarf:"Stop picking on me!" Like Snarf, you are trying to justify his patheticness, by comparing it to something else that has no actual relation to the subject at hand. If people want to take the piss out of me for being out of work currently, or that I was fired, it wont bother me in the slightest, cause I am happy with the situation. Snarf is obviously not happy with his situation. I really dont regard anyone as "cool" on a message board, and would find it pretty humourous if anyone found me to be "cool", because that means you have problems differenciating between real life and the internet. When you post here, you can be anything you want to be, so if your aim is to be a self pitying, pathetic worm, thats pretty fucked up! Well, like prometheus said... Snarf, I think you're an okay guy! topic ...Snarf isn't a bad looking guy. He's also a nice guy, probably good company that a lot of women would welcome. So despite his possibly not appreciating it, he has no reason not to be confident. As I said before, I was 26 when I had my first serious relationship. Once you've flown, it's a lot easier to fly. I think for the most part, you were very assertive and fearless when you left your job. It's commendable that you have that confidence, that it didn't get to you, and you can just move on. But in one aspect, you arguably were like Snarf, in that you vented frustration about what happened to you, that a female co-worker stabbed you in the back, and that your boss unfairly came down on you for bitching about work on your own website. (In your boss' defense, it was right out there for him to see, exactly what you thought of him and work. In YOUR defense, you didn't name names so the company was openly humiliated online.) But it's a fine line. The difference is you said "fuck it, it happened, I'm moving on". Whereas Snarf (at least in his opening post), sunk into self-doubt and was discouraged from trying again. I agree that wallowing in self-doubt isn't going to help him to his goal, IF that's what he's doing. But telling Snarf in topic after topic that he's a loser and a virgin who's never going to get laid is not exactly helping the ssituation. I guess you'd label that as "Rob Kamphaausen tough love" ? And thats my whole point as to the fact that the two situations have no parallels. I posted that because I wanted to, and didnt care what people thought. If people sided with me, fine, if they didnt and mocked me, fine! When Snarf posted his post he was searching for pity, and pity is not something thats ever been in huge supply on here. And then he couldnt accept it when he was mocked. Knowing this board like we all do, why on Earth would anyone want to put something that sensitive to them on here? As I said to Pro in that Snarf is a good guy thread when he tried to bring my personal life into it. I dont discuss my love life or most personal details on here because it has no place on here. Look at anyone here who has brought their personal life onto these boards, it always ends up as messy and a huge joke. If Snarf didnt get that, then thats hardly our fault!
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I think people are putting too much emphasis on the fact that Snarf is pathetic for making posts about his personal failures in regard to girlfriends.
I personally dislike him because he's a fucking idiot. I could care less about his irrelevancies in the Random Chat/Women/Media/Comics forums. It's the way he tries to engage people in the politics forum that shows how stupid he is.
Every post he makes consists of strolling into a topic and attempting to play the part of a satirist, trying to give people a terse history lesson with a radical spin as if what he says is somehow profound or above the intellect of posters who've already commented on the very issue he mentions. He is a posting dichotomy; in just about every forum, he's a pathetic self-deprecating moron, but in the the Politics/RDCW forums, he's absolutely full of himself.
The worst part is that this has been going on forever. How many years has he been posting here and he's STILL acting like a fucking noob. Everyone who's been here long enough has gone through the verses of change to some extent, but it's been YEARS and he's still the same idiot.
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Regarding the analysis by several here of Beardguy and Snarf, I disagree on both.
Beardguy was a really nice guy, and that kindness and appreciation for things came out in all his posts. Not everything he posted was interesting to me, but the spirit behind it made it more interesting to me. I liked having him here. And the people who drove him away, I regarded well before he was driven off as rude, vulgar, cynical and unpleasant assholes. The type who enjoy ruining others' happiness. I'd gladly take a hundred thousand Beardguys in exchange for any one of you. but just through sheer unimaginative harassment, you made him want to leave. And even in that you actually lost, because as Beardguy said to me himself privately, he could tolerate your pussy shit forever, he just chose to leave and not waste his time and energy with your collective pettiness. Key operative word: he CHOSE to leave, none of you idiots drove him away. Regarding the vindictive prying into his personal life: so what if he lied and said his x-boyfriend is dead. I'm sympathetic to the fact that it was difficult breakup for him, and in essence, the guy is dead to Beardguy, and is out of Beardguy's life. I see it as a difficult chapter in his life, and that's how he was able to deal with it. Which still doesn't make Beardguy any less of a nice guy. And still ten times better a human being than most of you. I finally read this bit. You really are deluded arent you? Simple fact is, no matter what he said about leaving to you in private, he did not choose to leave, he felt he had to leave because a bunch of people called him on his shit, and he started claiming to be having heart problems because of it. Its easy to say he could take "our pussy shit" forever, but the fact that he reckoned it was killing him, and he ran away, shows he didnt chose to leave on his own terms. Saying in publuc that its killing him and in private saying something else is quite laughable, as surely it should be the other way round if he wants people to think he had won anything. Also, on the subject of his lover, you say its vindictive prying, but I say that it would only be prying aif we had gone looking for this without him first telling us about his "loss", and would only be vindictive if he hadnt lied to try to get a sympathy vote. You say his break up was tough, and thats why he did it, but that to me does not justify trying to get unwarranted sympathy out of people, not only by lying that his lover had died, but even going as far as to make up a cause of death. He was trying to portray himself as a victim of life, when in reality, for all me we know, he split with his boyfriend because he had been a cunt. I mean, its not like he is above lying, so who's to say he hadnt lied to his boyfriend about something, and got called on it. If he told you why they split, how do you know he told you the truth? He already lied once about what happened, so who's to say he didnt lie to you as well? Your defense of him is as transparent as your defense of Snarf, as neither has any substance to them to back up your so called "facts" of why they are such wonderful people. I have to admit you'r right on this one. I never saw the stuff you say he posted, or at least didn't understand that he felt it was literally killing him. You make a valid point that if he was caught lying about his boyfriend dying, other parts as well might not be true. But I still always liked Beardguy. I see your point, but don't think less of him for it.
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The exchanges can often be funny. And I think all of us at times can either roll with the punches as you say, or take things too seriously, and open ourselves up for ridicule.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see where Snarf has committed any major sins of self-pity. I've seen him be as self-deprecating as he has been arguably self-pitying.
For the most part, everyone here has been harassed at one point or another (or an alternate way to looked at it, everyone has been teased, played with and tested.) Sometimes it's hard to tell whether it's banter, or a serious answer is truly expected. Look at it this way: Everything can be treated like a joke even while giving your honest opinion about something.
You'd probably identify with our point of view moreso if you look at this situation like you view topics about political correctness (I'm assuming you think it's crap). While you realize that 95% of the conversations here revolve around insults, you still expect there to be a gray area where people at least quietly acknowledge that some things should be considered sacred here like, say, going easy on Snarf who's basically the RKMBs whipping boy. It doesn't do you any good to think that way. Exceptionally well stated.
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I hate to sound like a kiss ass and a parrot, but I got to go with the majority opinion on this one. Hell, I was introduced to this place because retards like Halo and Whomod took all of this stuff way too seriously. It is the internet. Don't stress out and buy into the "cyber-bully" hype.
As for the picking-on people thing, it happens. If you are really that afraid of it then tailor your posts and all you say in such a way that you don't think anything you said could be used for picking-on you. You'll fail, but you can try. It isn't easy. Learning to roll with the punches is. Hell, if people took me to task for my emo post about Knitwit yesterday...I'd understand. I sounded like a half-crazed, love-struck idiot.
BTW, nothing personal against you, Wondy. And, Snarf, you're still a cunt. No offense taken. And again, points acknowledged.
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