Originally Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
What part of "Moore and Miller's stories are good but overly dark works" do you not understand?
We're back to your problem understanding plain english.


I've said I understand that a million times, Donna. I've never disputed the fact that you think these works are somehow hurt by their darkness. It's the "GOOD" part what's relevant to my argument. And that takes us to...

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First you strawmanned me to be hypocritical in condemning cynicism of the modern books, that you alleged to be in contradiction of my praising the Moore and Miller material.


No, Wondy. You only saw it that way because you think everyone's out to get you.


Well... In your case, that's definitely true.


 Originally Posted By: Mxy

I wasn't calling you an hypocrit. When this whole thing started, I wasn't making an argument about YOU... I was making an argument about comics. You said "these works are good BUT...", and I took the "good" part and used it to prove that, if these works are dark and good, so can others. That's my whole argument here.


Others who are easily impressed by shock value elements, profanity and cynicism. I'm not.
The works you praise are garbage, lauded with acclaim they don't deserve.

 Originally Posted By: Mxy

The argument only became about you once you started showcasing your stupidity (as you're bound to) and it became irresistible for me to point it out.


Actually, it stems from the fact you're an asshole who looks for any excuse to attack someone you disagree with. Your mocking and insults have nothing to do with what I posted, it's just your arrogant way of dealing with anyone who disagrees with you.

 Originally Posted By: Mxy
The fact that you took my arguments as a personal attack (when in fact my personal attacks are all clearly distinguishable from my arguments)


No, they're not. Because it's all about the insults for you, and they're peppered in every sentence you post. There's no discussion from you, it's just pure antagonism.

 Originally Posted By: Mxy
only goes too prove how broken your mind is. You are barely a thinking person, Cassie.


Thanks for proving my point. Again. More insults, even as you claim to be making a reasoned argument, allegedly distinguishable from your insults. You don't know how to post without insults.


 Originally Posted By: Mxy
I think an hypocrit is someone who consciously contradicts their own opinions. You're too oblivious to see the flaws in your "reasoning". There's no ill-will in your intolerance, only the purest, most sincere form of idiocy.

The spelling is hypocrite, by the way. Initially I thought you made a typo, but you continue to misspell it over and over. How very educated and non-idiotic of you. Only the purest and most sincere form of idiocy on your part, I'm sure.

Regardless, my "reasoning" (as you need to express in quotes) is that you deify shit. You worship garbage.
Culture is intended to pass on to the next generation the very best that previous generations have created, to advance our culture and build on it. As I've described it before, books like PREACHER, TRANSMETROPOLITAN, Morrison's JLA: EARTH 2, and similar series, which I have all read and am not speaking about in judgemental ignorance of what they are, are just a concentration of the most vulgar elements one can imagine (extreme profanity, graphic violence, sexual perversion, in a deliberately vulgar gonzo extravaganza) and whatever minor elements of decent writing they might contain are "art" in the way that encasing a crucifix in a jar of urine is art.

That is my reasoning. I make a valid point. Because you disagree, in your pathological uncivility, you feel a need to not just respectfully disagree, but call me an idiot and heap whatever other insults on me. I can take the insults in stride. You just prove my point. The fact that you feel the need to take it to that level just proves the extent of your dimentia, and the extent of your malice.



So to summarize your argument: You're an idiot who thinks Garth Ennis' PREACHER and similar Dark Age works are good writing, better written than other comics, because they are "mature" and have profanity, sadism, vividly graphic violence and mutilation, people raping corpses, bondage, homosexuality, and whatever other shock-value elements they can toss in the books. And just generally crap on the whole idea of adhering to any moral standard.

And, fanatic and idiot that you are, because I disagree with you, you need to get in my face and harass me relentlessly to prove... that you're not the idiot?
Just amazing.