Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
Well... In your case, that's definitely true.


Hey, I don't go out of my way to ridicule you. You provide a clear opportunity and I take it.

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Others who are easily impressed by shock value elements, profanity and cynicism. I'm not.


Uhhhhhhhhh yes you are. Impressed in a negative way, sure, but still... you're VERY easily offended, girl. Not just in comics but in general. It's what makes you so much fun.

Offensive content means A LOT more to you than it does to the average reader. An average reader (read: a normal person, ie, not you) reads a shocking scene in Punisher, think "ha cool" or "ew gross" and flips the page. He continues reading the story and forms an opinion based on its merits and not on isolated moments.

You read the same comic and you end up crawling on the floor, shivering, soaked in your own tears and urine. At least that's the impression you give when you throw shit fits like this one.

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The works you praise are garbage, lauded with acclaim they don't deserve.


That's a very harsh thing to say about Jack Kirby's work. Kirby must be very disappointed in you. |:[

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Actually, it stems from the fact you're an asshole who looks for any excuse to attack someone you disagree with.


I don't insult everyone who disagrees with me. I disagree with, I don't know, Grimm on a number of things and I don't insult him. If you had said "Preacher comics aren't my cup of tea" I wouldn't be insulting you. I don't even feel that strongly about Preacher (haven't even finished reading it). But you said it was filth, and even implied that everyone who likes it is a degenarate. So I'm not insulting you for your opinion, I insult you because of the idiotic intolerant way in which you express it.

Hey, if you weren't such a fucking idiot maybe we'd be having this exact same conversation in a civil way.

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Your mocking and insults have nothing to do with what I posted, it's just your arrogant way of dealing with anyone who disagrees with you.


My calling you stupid has EVERYTHING to do with what you posted: it's the only possible explanation for the wacky shit that comes out of your mouth (or your fingers, should your mouth be otherwise occuppied).

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No, they're not. Because it's all about the insults for you, and they're peppered in every sentence you post. There's no discussion from you, it's just pure antagonism.


I just realized that to you the phrase "read something before you judge it" is as offensive as "you have been fucked by a dog". You're probably scratching your head right now trying to figure out which one I said to insult you and which one I meant as an argument. It's not my fault that you're so dense.

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Thanks for proving my point. Again. More insults, even as you claim to be making a reasoned argument, allegedly distinguishable from your insults. You don't know how to post without insults.


But I do mean that you're barely a thinking person! I have provided arguments to support this accusation, and I will be glad to list them if you want me to.

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The spelling is hypocrite, by the way. Initially I thought you made a typo, but you continue to misspell it over and over. How very educated and non-idiotic of you. Only the purest and most sincere form of idiocy on your part, I'm sure.


See, Wondy, this WOULD serve as proof of my idiocy... if it had been me who claimed superior mastery of the English language. I never said that. In fact, I went as far as to admit that YOU, with all your limitations, probably have a better grasp of the language than me.

My misspelling only reveals ignorance. Ignorance doesn't equal stupidity. Stupidity is when someone claims to know something they don't. You know, like when you misspell "dementia" after trying to mock me for my spelling.

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books like PREACHER, TRANSMETROPOLITAN, Morrison's JLA: EARTH 2, and similar series, which I have all read and am not speaking about in judgemental ignorance of what they are, are just a concentration of the most vulgar elements one can imagine (extreme profanity, graphic violence, sexual perversion, in a deliberately vulgar gonzo extravaganza)


Secondary elements to a central narrative that you blow out of proportion because of your delicate sensibilities.

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So to summarize your argument: You're an idiot who thinks Garth Ennis' PREACHER and similar Dark Age works are good writing,


Do I think that? Yes. But that's not my argument here. My argument is that if Watchmen and others can be good ("but...") and dark, then it's unreasonable to dismiss other works SIMPLY because of their dark elements.

You have yet to address this argument. At this point you usually cry about me twisting your words ("I said I liked others better!") to avoid confronting what I'm saying. I suspect you haven't even stopped to consider what I'm saying: part of you knows being proven wrong, even in a matter so small, would shatter your psyche.

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better written than other comics, because they are "mature" and have profanity, sadism, vividly graphic violence and mutilation, people raping corpses, bondage, homosexuality, and whatever other shock-value elements they can toss in the books. And just generally crap on the whole idea of adhering to any moral standard.


Please, please, PLEASE quote the post in which I said that these works are BETTER WRITTEN than other comics simply because they are "more mature". I'm asking nicely because EVERY TIME I ask you to quote me saying something I don't recall saying, you ignore my request.

Again: I'm able to see the value in the comics you like. I'm not the intolerant one here. (This is the part where you bring up my insults, even though they have nothing to do with my opinion of the comics you do like. So, to make things easier for you, I shall call you a sorry cunt. Go ahead, have fun with that.)