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The fact that he claims to have me on "ignore", and then reads and responds to my posts on a regular basis, is hypocritical.

I see your point, that hypocrisy(def) is being untrue to stated beliefs, feelings or virtues. But in any case, he's being untrue to his word.

A liar, if you prefer.

I'd say rex is obsessed with him. I'd also say that WB feeds the obsession by reacting exactly the way rex wants him to.

Doc, on the other hand, I really see nothing to indicate that he has much interest in WB one way or another, except to sometimes comment on WB's posts.

Careful wondy, don't piss off the only supporter you have here.

I'm obsessed with Wondy? Is that what he's saying? I'd love to see the evidence of this. Tell me, guys, what's the count up to now? How many more atrocities have I committed?

Hey, I don't go out of my way to ridicule you. You provide a clear opportunity and I take it.



Uhhhhhhhhh yes you are. Impressed in a negative way, sure, but still... you're VERY easily offended, girl. Not just in comics but in general. It's what makes you so much fun.

Offensive content means A LOT more to you than it does to the average reader. An average reader (read: a normal person, ie, not you) reads a shocking scene in Punisher, think "ha cool" or "ew gross" and flips the page. He continues reading the story and forms an opinion based on its merits and not on isolated moments.

You read the same comic and you end up crawling on the floor, shivering, soaked in your own tears and urine. At least that's the impression you give when you throw shit fits like this one.



That's a very harsh thing to say about Jack Kirby's work. Kirby must be very disappointed in you. |:[



I don't insult everyone who disagrees with me. I disagree with, I don't know, Grimm on a number of things and I don't insult him. If you had said "Preacher comics aren't my cup of tea" I wouldn't be insulting you. I don't even feel that strongly about Preacher (haven't even finished reading it). But you said it was filth, and even implied that everyone who likes it is a degenarate. So I'm not insulting you for your opinion, I insult you because of the idiotic intolerant way in which you express it.

Hey, if you weren't such a fucking idiot maybe we'd be having this exact same conversation in a civil way.



My calling you stupid has EVERYTHING to do with what you posted: it's the only possible explanation for the wacky shit that comes out of your mouth (or your fingers, should your mouth be otherwise occuppied).



I just realized that to you the phrase "read something before you judge it" is as offensive as "you have been fucked by a dog". You're probably scratching your head right now trying to figure out which one I said to insult you and which one I meant as an argument. It's not my fault that you're so dense.



But I do mean that you're barely a thinking person! I have provided arguments to support this accusation, and I will be glad to list them if you want me to.



See, Wondy, this WOULD serve as proof of my idiocy... if it had been me who claimed superior mastery of the English language. I never said that. In fact, I went as far as to admit that YOU, with all your limitations, probably have a better grasp of the language than me.

My misspelling only reveals ignorance. Ignorance doesn't equal stupidity. Stupidity is when someone claims to know something they don't. You know, like when you misspell "dementia" after trying to mock me for my spelling.



Secondary elements to a central narrative that you blow out of proportion because of your delicate sensibilities.



Do I think that? Yes. But that's not my argument here. My argument is that if Watchmen and others can be good ("but...") and dark, then it's unreasonable to dismiss other works SIMPLY because of their dark elements.

You have yet to address this argument. At this point you usually cry about me twisting your words ("I said I liked others better!") to avoid confronting what I'm saying. I suspect you haven't even stopped to consider what I'm saying: part of you knows being proven wrong, even in a matter so small, would shatter your psyche.



Please, please, PLEASE quote the post in which I said that these works are BETTER WRITTEN than other comics simply because they are "more mature". I'm asking nicely because EVERY TIME I ask you to quote me saying something I don't recall saying, you ignore my request.

Again: I'm able to see the value in the comics you like. I'm not the intolerant one here. (This is the part where you bring up my insults, even though they have nothing to do with my opinion of the comics you do like. So, to make things easier for you, I shall call you a sorry cunt. Go ahead, have fun with that.)

Looking at WB's myriad posts over just the last few days - the huge tomes of quote and respond, rinse and repeat - I need to get a ruling: Has WB crossed over into full Oakley territory? Between the long-winded posts where he respond almost line by line, and the complete breakdown in logic, plus some of his protests and the way he phrases them, I gotta think that WB is the new Oakley.

Judges?

Hmmm...tough call, Joe. I mean, has he threatened physical violence yet? Any punching? I don't know, man. He's close, that's for certain...

wondy was oakley before oakley. If you went to the politics forum you would know this.

EXACTLY! Wondy, this is a huge step for you. Have a cookie.



I've formed my opinion based on the information avaliable (as have you). Obviously, there's a chance I may be wrong (as could you... even if you don't even consider the possibility).



Of the current era? Yep. Many, many times. Never denied it.



Oh, no, they're not very difficult to follow. Not difficult at all. All one has to do is read them.

Knowing Goeff Johns is writing Green Lantern and Hawkman is guest-starring isn't, and can never be, the same as reading the comic. If that was the case they wouldn't bother putting out the fucking things, they'd just sell us the solicitation info.

This particular point has to be the most hopeless battle you've ever tried to fight (and you're the guy who tried to deny the CIA's involvement in South America, until I showed you their declassified documents and you shut up). In what universe is "keeping up" with something through indirect sources the same as or even comparable to being immersed in it?



I'm sure NO ONE thought comics would die once guys like Kirby, Toth and Eisner retired. I'm also sure everyone who read WW2 comics as a kid LOVED everything that was published in the 70's. (At this point you will argue that comics in the 70's evolved the medium without being so gosh darn rude, unlike those 90's heathens, but the point remains: some guy, somewhere, HATED that Green Lantern was suddenly a negro and was disgusted that Lois Lane could vote. You're, in more than one way, the spiritual successor to that guy, Wondy.)



Wondy, I'll extend you the courtesy of leaving that one alone. Don't say I never did anything for you.



Nah, I know a lot of useless information about the comics I read as a kid (mostly Superman), but I don't pay much attention to that stuff these days. I don't even bother with "Secret Files and Origins" type bullshit, or continuity-wank in general. I'm more interested in enjoying stories despite what universe they fit or don't fit on, and I'm fascinated by the evolution of narrative storytelling. When I read Morrison and Quitely's The Bat-Man I was more intrigued by what Quitely did with the onomatopeias than Robin's new hairdo.



Wondy, I can't assassinate your character if everyone here already hates you.



You! Next question?



And therefore my opinion is more informed than yours. Nice. Thank you. You're really making progress here. I'm proud of you.



You don't NEED to know more than that. If, for example, you decide you don't like a comic because the cover is yellow, that's perfectly fine. However, not reading the comic disqualifies you from saying that is without the shadow of a doubt a piece of excrement. That just makes you look stupid.

Why can't you just say "it doesn't interest me so I don't read it"? That's what I do. I don't like wrestling. If someone asks me about wrestling I'll say "I don't know, I don't watch it", not "IT FUCKEN SUCKS AND EVERYONE WHO WATCHES IT IS A GAYLORD".

So you read one Preacher TPB. One tangential to the main storyline, but still. You read it all by yourself (clap clap), so now you have every right to judge this particular story and find it to be pure excrement. That's fine. However, one TPB is 1/9 of the entire story. You have a good enough idea of the style used in the series to know you don't want to read any more... and this means you are ignorant of what happens in the rest of the story. You simply don't have enough information about it to conclusively declare it to be crap.

By your own admission, bright moments in Watchmen and Swamp Thing redeem these stories (dare me to look up the post). And yet, you don't even accept the possibility that the same thing could happen in Preacher. Does it? Fucked if I know, I haven't finished reading it yet. But when I mentioned the romantic subplot present in the trades I have read, and how well-written it is, I remember you seemed genuinelly surprised. "What? Real emotion in this comic? But there's a gay black man saying 'fuck' in it!" You need to realize that these things aren't mutually exclusive.

(btw, I've made this part extra large so that you may, if you wish, say "I'm not reading all this gibberish" if you need an excuse to bail out of the conversation for another ten months. I won't think any less of you if you chicken out again, I promise.)



But at the same time you admit hating the great majority of what's being published, and not reading comics you hate. (No one's saying you should.)



I guess that's as close as I'll get to an admission that you overreacted.



On the contrary. Kids today are more used to this stuff than adults, mainly thanks to games, so seeing someone being gored in a comic is just another detail.



So you realize that good prose and shocking elements aren't mutually exclusive. Of course you won't think there's much of a chance of it being present in a Garth Ennis comic, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. MEANING THAT an issue of Preacher you haven't read could prove you to be completely wrong about this series. I know you don't find this to be likely, but there's a difference between thinking that and knowing there's no way it can happen.



I just like good comics, and I don't think a gore scene disqualifies a book from being good. I simply don't see the connection between offensive content and quality. It's not because I'm a huge fan of that stuff. I don't like gore movies, not because they make me sick, but because I find them to be boring. If a comic is all gore or all cussing, I'll probably get bored with it. But if it uses gore and shocking stuff as one in many elements that conform a narrative (like Preacher, in my limited experience), then I'm okay with it.

I'm glad we live in a time where a writer can have a character cut someone's dick off and shove it up their arse if he thinks it's necessary for the story he's telling. Doesn't mean I condone using scenes like that for pure shock value, but there's a huge difference between both scenarios.

WRESTLING FUCKEN SUCKS AND EVERYONE WHO WATCHES IT IS A GAYLORD is true, though.

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Wonder Boy, most people would turn you away but I don't listen to a word they say. They don't see you as I do even though i always hope they would try to. I'm sure they'd try again, if they had a friend like MEM.

you can't unconcede. what kind of pussy unconcedes?

why do you keep replying to him? does his obsession get you off? is this what passes as kicks for you?

You would not survive a rubber vs glue fight.

Oh fuck Doc, he's been carrying a heavy heart for 5 years because of a passing comment you may or may not have made! Find that post, it belongs in the broken hall of fame!

you sick twisted bastard, you said his post were beyond the pale 5 years ago, dont play coy with us!

It's the reason why Snarf hasn't watched the WWE for four years now.

There's right and there's right and never the twain shall meet.

AFLAC!

AFLAC!

I got excited when I saw two new posts.

I'm sure wondy will respond around October of next year.

what's taking him so long?

There's an animated penis marathon on the Playgirl Channel.

I don't even remember looking at this topic, whoever the obsessor is.

I was busy most of the weekend, and the last few days I've had a flu virus, so I haven't had either the time or energy to make a lengthy response.

But again: So the fuck what? People resurrect long-dead topics here all the time. I'm far from the first.

Beyond that, I don't know that I'd rush to reply anyway, since what I'd be replying to are not real concerns, responding to what I actually said. They're just troll antagonisms, not a serious inquiry about anything fairly said, or true representation of what I've posted.

is that a fancy word for penis?

I lost the script. Please update me on who's fighting who and who's winning or who's breaking?

I'm glad you took my advice, Wonder Tot. I wouldn't want you to get any sicker worrying about all this. Just put it out of your mind and get back to me when you're ready. No rush, big guy. ;]

the penis.

I'm on your case
I'm in your face
Kick you and your mother
back in place
step up sucker
understand
don't you know...

You're a train ride to no importance
You're in love with hell existence
Money is all that you desire
Why don't you pack it in and retire
It's common sense you can't fool me
I'm just the money that you can't let free
Rainy day genius clouds your mind
don't you realize the blind lead the blind