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July 04, 2010 | FoxNews.com Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele was scrambling to contain the fallout over the holiday weekend from his remarks claiming Afghanistan is a "war of Obama's choosing," which the United States never really "wanted to engage in."
Conservative commentators and GOP lawmakers were virtually united in condemning the party chairman for the remarks, voicing their support for the escalating U.S. military campaign in the country while scolding Steele for his "uninformed" statement. Some called for his resignation, one senator demanded he apologize to the military and at least one local GOP official is considering challenging Steele for his post.
It was the most public thrashing the chairman, who has a reputation for ad-libbing on delicate issues, has endured during his controversial tenure -- and while Steele downplayed the backlash in a public statement Friday, behind the scenes he was actively seeking support from insiders.
Weekly Standard Editor Bill Kristol, one of the earliest to call for Steele to step down, said on "Fox News Sunday" that the GOP chairman called him on Saturday to "persuade me that the remarks were taken out of context." Kristol was not moved, though he said they had a "long conversation" on the topic.
"He's a good guy. He should be ... a pundit on a million TV shows and he should give speeches. But he shouldn't express the views he expressed as Republican chairman," Kristol said. "One thing as a Republican I think Republicans can be proud of is that we don't politicize foreign wars. ... And unfortunately, Michael Steele politicized this in a way that doesn't reflect the view of the huge majority of Republicans. I think it would be better if he went."
Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said Sunday that Steele had e-mailed him to say his remarks were "misconstrued." But he left open the door as to what comes next for the embattled party leader.
"I think those statements are wildly inaccurate, and there's no excuse for them," McCain said on ABC's "This Week." "The fact is that I think that Mr. Steele is going to have to assess as to whether he can still lead the Republican Party as chairman of the Republican National Committee and make an appropriate decision."
At least one Republican is considering trying to force Steele out - though that wouldn't come for months. North Dakota Republican Party Chairman Gary Emineth told Fox News that he is "seriously considering" challenging Steele for the chairmanship after the November elections.
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I'm actually kinda with Steele on this one. You can't win in Afghanistan. We've been there almost as long as the USSR was and we see what it did to them.
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We won't be leaving anytime soon now that it's public a trillion dollars in minerals are under their land. If we do leave they will be invaded. But Steele's comments were idiotic, even the republicans are backing away from him. Steele overall has been a real idiot, even by republican standards, during his time in power. I think they rushed to put a black guy in charge to counter Obama but they should've picked more carefully.
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We won't be leaving anytime soon now that it's public a trillion dollars in minerals are under their land. If we do leave they will be invaded. But Steele's comments were idiotic, even the republicans are backing away from him. Steele overall has been a real idiot, even by republican standards, during his time in power. I think they rushed to put a black guy in charge to counter Obama but they should've picked more carefully. It's not like they had a ton of people to choose from though unless they start counting spray tans. 
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We won't be leaving anytime soon now that it's public a trillion dollars in minerals are under their land. If we do leave they will be invaded. But Steele's comments were idiotic, even the republicans are backing away from him. Steele overall has been a real idiot, even by republican standards, during his time in power. I think they rushed to put a black guy in charge to counter Obama but they should've picked more carefully. I'm not saying that most of what he said wasn't completely stupid. I just agree with him that this isn't the fight we should be having. I don't think there can be a real central government in Afghanistan. So, we will be there forever if that is an objective. We may have had a chance back in '03, but Bush blew it by turning to his family's vendetta with Saddam. Now, we are just bogged down wasting money on a corrupt government and having our boys die for very unclear goals and "conditions."
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Interesting contrast between the GOP and the DNC.
After 9/11, the Democrats more or universally supported (and voted for) the Iraq war. However, when things got bad the party as a whole all pretended it was only "Bush's war." Their leadership declared the war lost and tried to obstruct President Bush's (ultimately successful) efforts to turn things around. They named one of the war's staunchest opponents, Howard Dean, the party chair.
In contrast, Steele's remarks were brought to light by his fellow Republicans, who called him out for them, even though it has caused, and continues to cause, a certain amount of embarrassment to the party.
It speaks well of Republican elected officials that in contrast to the Democrats then, they have largely stood behind the war effort and the president, even though he is of the other party.
By saying such a stupid thing, Steele reminds us that, at least on this subject, the party he leads has mostly been doing the right thing.
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Uh, yeah, G-shill.
Even his own party couldn't spin his moronic comments into something positive, so naturally they called him out on it.
You are the only apologist who even attempted to try to make this sound like a good thing, which is really just another day in the life...
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Michael Steele is a fucking idiot. Having him in the republican party is one of the reasons I register as undeclared.
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Even his own party couldn't spin his moronic comments into something positive, so naturally they called him out on it. So the GOP wasn't right to call out Steele for saying this? It isn't a good thing that the party didn't even try? That's really a "damned if they do..." scenario you're putting forth. Furthermore, this wasn't something where the news broke and then republicans ran for cover. The story was broken nationally by conservative writer Bill Kristol and he started the whole "Steele should resign" movement. Also, just out of curiosity, when has the Democrat Party ever called out their leader (or other bigwig) and not attempted to spin it? If you have an example, I'm willing to read about it.
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BILL KRISTOL MUST RESIGN July 7, 2010
Republican National Committee chairman Michael Steele was absolutely right. Afghanistan is Obama's war and, judging by other recent Democratic ventures in military affairs, isn't likely to turn out well.
It has been idiotically claimed that Steele's statement about Afghanistan being Obama's war is "inaccurate" -- as if Steele is unaware Bush invaded Afghanistan soon after 9/11. (No one can forget that -- even liberals pretended to support that war for three whole weeks.)
Yes, Bush invaded Afghanistan soon after 9/11. Within the first few months we had toppled the Taliban, killed or captured hundreds of al-Qaida fighters and arranged for democratic elections, resulting in an American-friendly government.
Then Bush declared success and turned his attention to Iraq, leaving minimal troops behind in Afghanistan to prevent Osama bin Laden from regrouping, swat down al-Qaida fighters and gather intelligence.
Having some vague concept of America's national interest -- unlike liberals -- the Bush administration could see that a country of illiterate peasants living in caves ruled by "warlords" was not a primo target for "nation-building."
By contrast, Iraq had a young, educated, pro-Western populace that was ideal for regime change.
If Saddam Hussein had been a peach, it would still be a major victory in the war on terrorism to have a Muslim Israel in that part of the globe, and it sure wasn't going to be Afghanistan (literacy rate, 19 percent; life expectancy, 44 years; working toilets, 7).
But Iraq also was a state sponsor of terrorism; was attempting to build nuclear weapons (according to endless bipartisan investigations in this country and in Britain -- thanks, liberals!); nurtured and gave refuge to Islamic terrorists -- including the 1993 World Trade Center bombers; was led by a mass murderer who had used weapons of mass destruction; paid bonuses to the families of suicide bombers; had vast oil reserves; and is situated at the heart of a critical region.
Having absolutely no interest in America's national security, the entire Democratic Party (save Joe Lieberman) wailed about the war in Iraq for five years, pretending they really wanted to go great-guns in Afghanistan. What the heck: They had already voted for the war in Afghanistan in the wake of 9/11 when they would have been hanged as traitors had they objected.
The obsession with Afghanistan was pure rhetoric. Democrats have no interest in fighting any war that would serve America's interests. (They're too jammed with their wars against Evangelicals, Wal-Mart, the Pledge of Allegiance, SUVs and the middle class.) Absent Iraq, they'd have been bad-mouthing Afghanistan, too.
So for the entire course of the magnificently successful war in Iraq, all we heard from these useless Democrats was that Iraq was a "war of choice," while Afghanistan -- the good war! -- was a "war of necessity." "Bush took his eye off the ball in Afghanistan!" "He got distracted by war in Iraq!" "WHERE'S OSAMA?" and -- my favorite -- "Iraq didn't attack us on 9/11!"
Of course, neither did Afghanistan. But Democrats were in a lather and couldn't be bothered with the facts.
The above complaints about Iraq come -- nearly verbatim -- from speeches and press conferences by Obama, Joe Biden, and Obama's national security advisers Susan Rice and Richard Clarke. Also, the entire gutless Democratic Party. Some liberals began including them in their wedding vows.
(By the way, Democrats: WHERE'S OSAMA?)
Obama hasn't ramped up the war in Afghanistan based on a careful calculation of America's strategic objectives. He did it because he was trapped by his own rhetorical game of bashing the Iraq war while pretending to be a hawk on Afghanistan.
At this point, Afghanistan is every bit as much Obama's war as Vietnam was Lyndon Johnson's war. True, President Kennedy was the first to send troops to Vietnam. We had 16,000 troops in Vietnam when JFK was assassinated. Within four years, LBJ had sent 400,000 troops there.
In the entire seven-year course of the Afghanistan war under Bush, from October 2001 to January 2009, 625 American soldiers were killed. In 18 short months, Obama has nearly doubled that number to 1,124 Americans killed.
Republicans used to think seriously about deploying the military. President Eisenhower sent aid to South Vietnam, but said he could not "conceive of a greater tragedy" for America than getting heavily involved there.
As Michael Steele correctly noted, every great power that's tried to stage an all-out war in Afghanistan has gotten its ass handed to it. Everyone knows it's not worth the trouble and resources to take a nation of rocks and brigands.
Based on Obama's rules of engagement for our troops in Afghanistan, we're apparently not even fighting a war. The greatest fighting force in the world is building vocational schools and distributing cheese crackers to children.
There's even talk of giving soldiers medals for NOT shooting people, which I gather will be awarded posthumously. Naomi Campbell is rougher with her assistants than our troops are allowed to be with Taliban fighters.
But now I hear it is the official policy of the Republican Party to be for all wars, irrespective of our national interest.
What if Obama decides to invade England because he's still ticked off about that Churchill bust? Can Michael Steele and I object to that? Or would that demoralize the troops?
Our troops are the most magnificent in the world, but they're not the ones setting military policy. The president is -- and he's basing his war strategy on the chants of Moveon.org cretins.
Nonetheless, Bill Kristol and Liz Cheney have demanded that Steele resign as head of the RNC for saying Afghanistan is now Obama's war -- and a badly thought-out one at that. (Didn't liberals warn us that neoconservatives want permanent war?)
I thought the irreducible requirements of Republicanism were being for life, small government and a strong national defense, but I guess permanent war is on the platter now, too.
Of course, if Kristol is writing the rules for being a Republican, we're all going to have to get on board for amnesty and a "National Greatness Project," too – other Kristol ideas for the Republican Party. Also, John McCain. Kristol was an early backer of McCain for president -- and look how great that turned out!
Inasmuch as demanding resignations is another new Republican position, here's mine: Bill Kristol and Liz Cheney must resign immediately.
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So the GOP wasn't right to call out Steele for saying this?
They were right. It's not as if they had a choice.
You're painting this as if it were some noble act on their part...but just like the Republican corporate cocksucker who apologized to BP, there was no way that even the most deluded partisan hack could spin Steele's comments. Furthermore, this wasn't something where the news broke and then republicans ran for cover. The story was broken nationally by conservative writer Bill Kristol and he started the whole "Steele should resign" movement. It doesn't matter at all. Steele's fuck up was so profound, the rest of the world would have found out eventually, closed event or not. Also, just out of curiosity, when has the Democrat Party ever called out their leader (or other bigwig) and not attempted to spin it?
If you have an example, I'm willing to read about it. Don't know, don't care. Both parties in this country are corrupt and beyond repair.
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I agree with the part where you said you don't care. Me neither.
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