RKMBs Forums .::Robegories::. Games and Tech Sony fucked up big time. PSN attack might lead to identity theft

My lord god Microsoft didn't suffer a breach! Their security is miles ahead of Sony's!

M$ can get hacked...

...Be sure to let me know if any of those scenarios actually happen

The network of a multi-billion dollar corporation got hacked.

It could never in a million years be XBL. It's more likely that Snarf would blah blah blah than Microsoft and blah blah blah its security. I've seen its servers with my own eyes and compared them to Sony's. Theirs are more solid.

Live was hacked?

Link?

Sony fucked up big time.

Be sure to let me know when Live gets hacked as badly as PSN did.

AP) TOKYO (AP) — Sony executives bowed in apology Sunday for a security breach in the company's PlayStation Network that compromised the personal data of some 77 million accounts on the online service.

"We deeply apologize for the inconvenience we have caused," said Kazuo Hirai, chief of Sony Corp.'s PlayStation video game unit, who was among the three executives who held their heads low for several seconds at the company's Tokyo headquarters in the traditional style of a Japanese apology.

Hirai said parts of the service would be back this week and that the company would beef up security measures. But he and other executives acknowledged that not enough had been done in security precautions, and promised that the company's network services were under a basic review to prevent a recurrence.

Hirai said the FBI and other authorities had been contacted to start an investigation into what the company called "a criminal cyber attack" on Sony's data center in San Diego, California.

Sony said account information, including names, birth dates, email addresses and log-in information, was compromised for players using its PlayStation Network. Hirai asked all users to change their passwords.

Hirai reiterated what the company said last week — that even though it had no direct evidence the data were even taken, it cannot rule out the possibility.

He said data from 10 million credit cards were believed to be involved, and that Sony still does not know whether information was stolen.

Sony has added software monitoring and enhanced data protection and encryption as new security measures, he said. The company said it would offer "welcome back" freebies such as complimentary downloads and 30 days of free service around the world to show remorse and appreciation.

"I see my work as first making sure Sony can regain the trust from our users," Hirai said.

The network, which serves both the PlayStation video game machines and Sony's Qriocity movie and music services, has been shut down since April 20. It is a system that links gamers worldwide in live play, and also allows users to upgrade and download games and other content.

Hirai said Sony suspected it was under attack by hackers starting April 17.

According to Sony, of the 77 million PlayStation Network accounts, about 36 million are in the U.S. and elsewhere in the Americas, while 32 million are in Europe and 9 million in Asia, mostly in Japan.

Pressure is mounting on Sony to restore services and compensate players.

U.S. lawmakers have sent a letter to Hirai demanding answers by May 6 about the security breach and Sony's response.

Hirai said he had read the online version of the letter and would answer the questions as soon as possible.

Last month, U.S. lawyers filed a lawsuit against Sony on behalf of lead plaintiff Kristopher Johns for negligent protection of personal data and failure to inform players in a timely fashion that their credit card information may have been stolen. The lawsuit seeks class-action status.

Hirai said the network problems would not hurt or delay Sony's product plans, including a tablet device that looks like Apple's iPad, an upgrade to the PlayStation Portable and a gradual global rollout of the Qriocity service.

Hirai also denied Sony had purposely held off on releasing information about network problems, a criticism that some have expressed.

He said the service was shut down to prevent damage, and that time was needed to find out what had happened and who was responsible.

But Yoh Mikami, a writer specializing in electronic security in Japan, said Sony's network business had suffered a serious blow as people were seeing its reliability as plunging. He said Sony also waited too long, more than a week, to tell users what had happened.

"What became clear today is that Sony didn't even know its server had a vulnerability," said Mikami. "Sony's crisis management came too little, too late."

Shut up already Pariah. Microsoft could never get hacked.

I don't expect anything less than an apology from a Japanese businessman. Humility is their cultural staple regardless of the particulars of the scenario. They had to shut down PSN, and therefore there is an inconvenience.

I am curious though where in those statements it's said that they always knew they hadn't done enough to make their servers secure?

Obviously if someone gets hacked, it means more security is required. But how does that mean they didn't use as much security as they though was required?

But more to the point: is this your way of saying Microsoft wouldn't apologize? Or that, assuming they were hacked, they simply wouldn't need to?

MisterJLA Moderator Message board god, according to bsams
15000+ posts 05/03/11 01:57 AM Reading a post
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Thread: Sony fucked up big time. PSN attack might lead to identity theft

The Sony execs are lying. Gotcha.

It was the part that I put bold tags around.

Here, I'll post it again, and you'll bury your head in the sand again.

But he and other executives acknowledged that not enough had been done in security precautions

They didn't give us a time frame of when they figured out they fucked up, but they did admit they fucked up.

Nothing about how M$ could fuck up, that's your line.

They either though(t) wrong initially, or cut corners. Laziness or incompetence, take your pick.

I really can't say how M$ would react, I don't get into wild speculation like you do.

Where did I say they were lying about anything?

Yeah. I know. Where does it say they knew from the very beginning it wouldn't be enough?

Assuming responsibility for the incident is not the same as being responsible for it.

I think we both can agree that hackers are responsible.

Sony employed what they felt would be enough security to deter hackers. It wasn't enough. Simple.

Or are you really arguing they wanted this to happen?

Nothing about how M$ could fuck up, that's your line.

No, that's just common sense.

Thinking wrongly is equatable to incompetence how?

Oh I forgot! You're the foremost expert on Sony and Microsoft's servers, software, and procedures when it comes to security. If anyone would know they weren't doing enough it would be you.

So now it's "wild speculation" that a multi-billion dollar company's hardware can get hacked?

Is that the reason why you started this thread then? "Wild speculation?"

You claim they are apologizing when (according to you of course, since you know more about the situation than they do) they don't have a reason to.

"regardless of the particulars of the scenario".

Fine. Great. You're not calling them liars. Maybe you're implying they don't see the truth here, and only you do, since you never offer up lame excuses for your pet "causes" (the Roman Catholic Church, for example)

Whatever.

Who gives a rat's ass when they figured it out?

If they didn't know their service had piss-poor security from the beginning, they certainly know now...and whenever they had this revelation, they didn't do enough to prevent the attack, according to them.

Make sure you pass that along to them. You know their product better than they do, and when they apologized, that's because "Humility is their cultural staple regardless of the particulars of the scenario".

Sony shares the blame for its shitty security measures. They didn't want this to happen.

And completely irrelevant. Let me know when it happens, if it ever does happen. Until then, let's discuss Sony's colossal failure, which did happen.

You're trying too hard. Seriously.

M$ is doing enough as of the moment, considering their network didn't get the pissfuck hacked out of it, unlike Sony's.

You asked me to speculate how M$ would react, dumbfuck.

There is no speculation...Sony fucked up big time.

Looking at your responses, I understand why you're such a big fan.

It's not Sony's fault, it's the fault of its customers for having faith in Sony's shitty product?

Shit. Pariah's making a fool of JLA...Again!

Maybe if I try and spin JLA's obvious concern over the issue as some kind of trolling tactic, I can turn the tables on Pariah.

Doc, you're a genius!

Damn! He got me. Time to take a page out of Pro's book.

Pariah's gone all Insurgent on us.

YOU'RE LOSING FOCUS ABOUT WHICH CONSOLE IS MORE SECURE!!!

SOMEONE LINK TO ARTICLES WITH EMPHASIS!!!!!!

So.....Does this mean the situation with the personal info has escalated on Sony's end or is mentioning congress supposed to justify you giving your financial information to Microsoft?

Feeble attempt at making this an issue about M$.

Alright guys this is getting too intense for me.

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