|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 43,951 Likes: 6
Officially "too old for this shit" 15000+ posts
|
Officially "too old for this shit" 15000+ posts
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 43,951 Likes: 6 |
Challengers of the Unknown
After a dangerous encounter with a UFO, USAF Col. Kyle Morgan convinces the Pentagon to allow him to assemble a group of varied specialists, all of whom have had their own near death experiences due to unusual circumstances, to combat the strange and unexplained. Given funding and other material support, he soon establishes a network of scientists, engineers, soldiers, and historians to become a covert troubleshooting unit for the US military. With an hourglass symbol to remind them all of the borrowed time they now live on, they traverse pocket universes, thwart ancient alien menaces, and seize magic relics from power hungry sorcerers until that borrowed time runs out.
Making the Challengers more of a Planetary type group gives the writers the ability to create or use pre-existing characters who will fit a certain story instead of trying to force characters to fit the situation as well as allowing for a few to be sacrificed as needed. Wow. This is a really good idea. Seriously, doc, you should try and sell this to DC. It's better than any Challengers reboot I've seen in forty years of reading comics.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,230 Likes: 1
Banned from the DCMBs since 2002. 15000+ posts
|
Banned from the DCMBs since 2002. 15000+ posts
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,230 Likes: 1 |
Challengers of the Unknown
Making the Challengers more of a Planetary type group gives the writers the ability to create or use pre-existing characters who will fit a certain story instead of trying to force characters to fit the situation as well as allowing for a few to be sacrificed as needed. Yeah, the idea of an redux Planetary / Global Frequency in mainstream continuity is a logical exploitation of Ellis' best concept. I was ever hopeful that a frozen American super soldier would be found in the Arctic by The Four, who decided that they couldn't be bothered defrosting him. Challengers of the Unknown could investigate: a a corrupt female cop with a strange sorcerous glove which eventually consumes her and itself when it realizes what she is and what it perpetuates; b the orbiting hulk of ruined space ship from a utopian future, clearly the victim of combat, filled with the corpses of pointy-eared aliens and their cyborg adversaries; c a Japanese atomic powered robot in the shape of a boy, which during it's test run suffers a systems crash which over-rides it's altruistic programming, sending it on a rampage through Tokyo; d the ruins of an ancient Gaul village and it's inscribed formula for super-strength. Lots of fun to be had with this. Great idea.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 16,240
Kisser Of John Byrne Ass 15000+ posts
|
Kisser Of John Byrne Ass 15000+ posts
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 16,240 |
Wonder Woman. The character gets the shield of Zeus (the Aegis) as a new weapon (it creates storms) and the hammer of Hephaestus (it can create volcanoes). So she gets nerfed up. And then Authority the fuck out of the character: Trigon the Terrible appears and is poised destroy the world, and WW chops off his head and mounts it on a pike. Starro takes over the planet, and WW decides to deal decisively and barbecues him. Kanjar-Ro's invasion fleet destroys the Philippines and blows up Manila ("Neil! Nooooo!") and Wondy repels the invasion and drops him into a lava pit.
I'd really like to see a major DC character be kick-arse in a real war instead of pussyfooting around with "Oh, let's imprison this insane mass murderer so he can escape again and kill more people". This character is the only one which has the potential for it.
Not that I read the cultural gutter which is superhero comics anymore. Next! I was talking to someone the other day about why Wonder Woman hardly ever works anymore. we basically agreed that she has no reason to be in Man's world. WWII made sense, but the ambassador didn't work, etc. There has to be a reason for WW to leave a place like paradise island. A good reason, and there hasn't been one recently. World eating monsters like starro and Trigon could help give a reason.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 33,919
devil-lovin' Bat-Man 15000+ posts
|
OP
devil-lovin' Bat-Man 15000+ posts
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 33,919 |
I see you never grew out of your space pirate phase. Yeah, fuck the Green Lantern part, I'll just do a space pirate comic.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,230 Likes: 1
Banned from the DCMBs since 2002. 15000+ posts
|
Banned from the DCMBs since 2002. 15000+ posts
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,230 Likes: 1 |
Space Pirate!
A Chilean cinematographer is minding his own business walking down the streets of some city north of Santiago one day. A flying saucer appears above him and abducts him. Small hot alien chicks give him a hook, an eye patch and a large penis. He has sex with them all and they give him the flying saucer. He becomes Space Pirate!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 4
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
|
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 4 |
That's Mxy's true to life story.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 4
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
|
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 4 |
But you need to replace "Small hot alien chicks" with Lothar, Wondy, and MEM.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,230 Likes: 1
Banned from the DCMBs since 2002. 15000+ posts
|
Banned from the DCMBs since 2002. 15000+ posts
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,230 Likes: 1 |
And replace "large penis" with "animatronic sock puppet".
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 33,919
devil-lovin' Bat-Man 15000+ posts
|
OP
devil-lovin' Bat-Man 15000+ posts
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 33,919 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 4
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
|
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 4 |
cinematographer?
I barely knew her!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 4
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
|
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 4 |
It took this long to come up with that. You can't rush comedy, especially ones that are gold.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,230 Likes: 1
Banned from the DCMBs since 2002. 15000+ posts
|
Banned from the DCMBs since 2002. 15000+ posts
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,230 Likes: 1 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 7,040 Likes: 24
Society's Discontent 6000+ posts
|
Society's Discontent 6000+ posts
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 7,040 Likes: 24 |
Hawk and Dove - Writer: Anybody Artist: Rob Leifeld Dove's almost non-existent ankles break while on a mission leading to her being captured and killed. Holing up in the JLA HQs, a grief driven Hawk builds a time-traveling suit based on Linear Men and Cosmic Treadmill technology. Arriving back in time, he learns his calculations were wildly imprecise as he re-enters the timestream at Dove's funeral. Grief turning into rage, he kills his past self creating a time paradox that fractures the the New DCU forever. How could this get any worse? Well, let's just say that rage draws the attention of a blood vomiting space kitty! Hank Hall of Earth, welcome to the Red Lantern Corps!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 33,385 Likes: 1
Regenerated 15000+ posts
|
Regenerated 15000+ posts
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 33,385 Likes: 1 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 7,040 Likes: 24
Society's Discontent 6000+ posts
|
Society's Discontent 6000+ posts
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 7,040 Likes: 24 |
I thought about this leading into a Johns/Leifeld mini-series: Flachpouch: Pockets in Time where the Flash battles Hawk in the remaining pockets of the universe that are slowly being destroyed by the paradox. The climax of the series reveals the true villain, Wally West. He pushed Hawk out of the timestream at the wrong time knowing that he wouldn't be able to control his rage. I hate to turn Wally bad like that, but it couldn't be any worse than anything DC has done with him lately. But, I thought the title would just be pushing the Leifeld humor a little too much.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,799 Likes: 40
Fair Play! 15000+ posts
|
Fair Play! 15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,799 Likes: 40 |
For my favorite title Legion of Superheroes, I would reboot it by combining aspects of all the previous reboots into one. They would have a really huge membership with a primary core cast being focussed on from story to story. They would be aware that their history is all messed up due to the Time Trapper's manipulations but there wouldn't be anything they could do about it other than preserving what they had now. The title would not be held accountable for the ongoing changes for the present day DCU. Superboy would be the one from the silver age. Maybe he would be from an alternate universe or be part of some chronal destabalization by the Time Trapper, whatever. With that in place they could just go on and have adventures using the futuristic backdrop that helps make the Legion unigue.
They would also age in real time as much as possible. That would force change and growth without having to do another reboot IMHO.
Fair play!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,230 Likes: 1
Banned from the DCMBs since 2002. 15000+ posts
|
Banned from the DCMBs since 2002. 15000+ posts
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,230 Likes: 1 |
I like the Legion having some effectively immortal members in it too: Red Tornado, Dr Fate, and some New Gods. A Green Lantern would be nice too. Never got the exclusion on that.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 45,820
cobra kai 15000+ posts
|
cobra kai 15000+ posts
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 45,820 |
They would also age in real time as much as possible. That would force change and growth without having to do another reboot IMHO. i always liked the idea of having a super hero character age in real time, go through real seasons, etc. thought that'd be a unique angle. ...though i don't know if i'd waste it on the legion... (buuuuuurn)
giant picture
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,799 Likes: 40
Fair Play! 15000+ posts
|
Fair Play! 15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,799 Likes: 40 |
The Legion sorta aged but that ended after Giffen's 5 years later. Than it was reboot, reboot and reboot. As for an immortal character being in the Legion, Monel is over a thousand years old. He may actually be (or will be?) DC's longest lived superhero.
Fair play!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 19,436 Likes: 8
brother from another mother 15000+ posts
|
brother from another mother 15000+ posts
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 19,436 Likes: 8 |
I think Vandal Savage is a little older.
"My friends have always been the best of me." -Doctor Who
"Well,whenever I'm confused,I just check my underwear. It holds most answers to life's questions." Abe Simpson
I can tell by the position of the sun in the sky, that is time for us to go. Until next time, I am Lothar of the Hill People!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 4
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
|
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 4 |
He died in a car accident a coupla months ago.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 33,919
devil-lovin' Bat-Man 15000+ posts
|
OP
devil-lovin' Bat-Man 15000+ posts
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 33,919 |
He didn't notice that the lights had changed.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 33,919
devil-lovin' Bat-Man 15000+ posts
|
OP
devil-lovin' Bat-Man 15000+ posts
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 33,919 |
In DC One Million Vandal Savage is one million million years old.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 28,009
Inglourious Basterd!!! 15000+ posts
|
Inglourious Basterd!!! 15000+ posts
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 28,009 |
Funny. He doesn't look a day over 900,000 million.
Uschi said:I won't rape you, I'll just fuck you 'till it hurts and then not stop and you'll cry. MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost! "I can't even brush my teeth without gagging!" - Tommy Tantillo: Wank & Cry, heckpuppy, and general laughingstock
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 33,385 Likes: 1
Regenerated 15000+ posts
|
Regenerated 15000+ posts
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 33,385 Likes: 1 |
I liked it better when he had wacky powers in the beginning of the Wally West Flash series. I know this because I read Mxy's blogs and stuff...
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 43,951 Likes: 6
Officially "too old for this shit" 15000+ posts
|
Officially "too old for this shit" 15000+ posts
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 43,951 Likes: 6 |
Monel is over a thousand years old. He may actually be (or will be?) DC's longest lived superhero. I think Vandal Savage is a little older. Vandal Savage is a super-villain. Or has that been retconned?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 4
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
|
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 4 |
Is the Phantom Stranger still alive during Legion's time?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 33,919
devil-lovin' Bat-Man 15000+ posts
|
OP
devil-lovin' Bat-Man 15000+ posts
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 33,919 |
JLA #1 comes out next Wednesday right? I'm just gonna dump all this crap on a Mighty Geek post. If someone wants to reboot Shazam now's the time!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,799 Likes: 40
Fair Play! 15000+ posts
|
Fair Play! 15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,799 Likes: 40 |
Shazam: An ethnic gay guy named Billy Batson spends all his spare time helping the homeless encounters an old dying man near an abandoned subway. It turns out to be an ancient wizzard named Shazzam who attempts to steal Billy's body and becomes the world's mightiest villian. The spell gets botched though and Billy ends up having the evil wizzard's powers when he says his name. The catch is the longer he keeps them the more influence the old wizzard has over Billy.
Fair play!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236 Likes: 15
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..." 15000+ posts
|
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..." 15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236 Likes: 15 |
"Are you eating it...or is it eating you?" [center] [/center] [center] [/center]
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,230 Likes: 1
Banned from the DCMBs since 2002. 15000+ posts
|
Banned from the DCMBs since 2002. 15000+ posts
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,230 Likes: 1 |
Grifter: a gunslinging vet becomes involved with a Kherian warlord and learns from her the ultimate secrets of fighting. He becomes the irrepressible Grifter: toting his hi-tech weaponry, he roams the world brawling, cracking jokes, and occasionally taking jobs for money, but hides a deep secret.
His real name: Joe Chill.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 19,546 Likes: 1
living in 1962 15000+ posts
|
living in 1962 15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 19,546 Likes: 1 |
intriguing.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 43,951 Likes: 6
Officially "too old for this shit" 15000+ posts
|
Officially "too old for this shit" 15000+ posts
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 43,951 Likes: 6 |
Grifter: a gunslinging vet becomes involved with a Kherian warlord and learns from her the ultimate secrets of fighting. He becomes the irrepressible Grifter: toting his hi-tech weaponry, he roams the world brawling, cracking jokes, and occasionally taking jobs for money, but hides a deep secret.
His real name: Joe Chill. I kind of like it but one of the problems I have with DC is that every few years they weight of their own continuity tends to bog them down to the point where they can't tell decent stories. Making anyone but a random mugger who just happened to kill the wrong people the murderer of Bruce Wayne's parents takes the idea of "it could have happened to any of us" out of the equation and robs the Batman creation myth of more than a bit of its power. Personally, I think the best concept was the "Zero Hour" version where Bruce (and we) never knew who the mugger was. It added a bit of pathos to the character, the idea that he would always wonder if the guy he beat up that evening might have been "the one."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 4
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
|
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 4 |
I'm with G-man here. Dave, you're fired!
|
|
|
|
|