Originally Posted By: Pro

 Originally Posted By: WB
That footage in your opening post was slickly edited in a Michael Moore style.


...what? Go to YouTube! Look up the "Occupy Wall Street" videos! You will see so MANY different viewpoints that you will see nothing is being "edited". Certainly not by Michael fucking Moore.


I'm talking about what you began this topic with, as the centerpiece of your argument for the evil Wall Street system (which backs Obama) and their eeeeeeviiiilllll brutal lackey police force.

 Originally Posted By: WB
It is clear propaganda and not "news coverage", or even the objective amateur footage of a bystander in the protests.
(i.e., it is shit, absolute garbage, worthless in terms of trying to find footage that gives an honest assessment of what actually happened there.)

 Originally Posted By: Pro

....actual, amateur video footage isn't enough? I don't understand. Seriously. You've lost me.


Then it is your choice not to. Because it is obvious. It wasn't amateur footage in that opening post, and it was heavily laden with voice-over socialist propaganda and inserted music, clearly not just raw footage of the event.

 Originally Posted By: WB
You mock me for sourcing Fox News (even though I only post Fox links a small percentage of the time, and often even the Fox links I post are to Associated Press and other mainstream sources).
But this crap, along with your posting Keith Olbermann, and his rabid replacement, MSNBC's self identified on air, no less!) socialist Chris O'Donnell, manifests how far-left you are, even as you call on the rest of us to be "objective" and set aside our politics.


 Originally Posted By: Pro
David, I JUST posted, offering you an olive branch, okay? Our disagreements and whatever outside this thread don't matter to me while we're in here discussing this. Please, can't you find any ground to meet another American halfway on battle for our Rights?


As I said, you call for bipartisanship while demonizing Fox News and Rupert Murdoch.
If you read OBAMANOMICS by Tim Carney, he is critical of both Republicans and Democrats in Washington, that he describes as a "revolving door" where individuals of both parties serve in public-sector jobs as Senators, Congressmen, military officers, and other high-level departmental and cabinet positions, pushing through legislation that benefits certain corporations. And then when they leave office, they take very cushy high-paying corporate jobs in return for their favors, making even more money. Until a president of their party takes office again, at which point they go right back into an apppointed government position currying favors for the corporation they just left. And on and on.
Two examples are Rahm Emmanuel (who served in both the Clinton and Obama administrations, with a period making millions in the private sector in between), and Tim Geithner (a Goldman-Sachs executive, who oversaw TARP in the Bush administration, before being appointed treasury secretary under Obama). Carney identifies Goldman-Sachs and the most powerful Wall Street player in Washington, through multiple administrations, both Democrat and Republican.


 Originally Posted By: WB

 Originally Posted By: WB
As others have said, the police will have an internal investigation to determine whether there was any actual brutality on their part. You seem quick to label it that way, regardless of the evidence.


I honestly ask you, twice, to just let it go and lets be friends in here. Look at the evidence. Go to YouTube and look all the protestor footage. Seriously, man. You cannot dismiss them all as frauds, or whatever. Why are you making this about Right vs Left? This is about us ALL. Can't you see that?

Now, for the third and final time, I reach my hand out to you in this thread and say: "Time-Out". Let's agree that we all need to come together to save our society from those above us. If that's Obama or if that's McCain. Or if that's both! Let's not allow phantom allegiances to "our teams" blind us to an actual, universal problem.

Please? \:\)


According to Carney, McCain was a true reformer, who was successfully propagandized by the Obama campaign as a "just like Bush" stooge of Wall Street.

That said, both parties have their share of corporate cronies.