Fact is that hundreds of people eating and shitting in one place for two months is unhealthy.
Tell that to the military. Or the Boy Scouts. Or anyone else who camps out for months at a time. They, too, are organizations that eat and shit in one place for two months or more.
Again, you forget simple facts. The military has people who specifically deal with the sanitation/health issue constantly. Boy Scouts either use facilities provided by the parks they're camping in or they dig latrines yards away from them. They also don't camp for months at a time. OWS protestors have done neither.
Again, you miss the fact that camping on private property for months isn't a right.
No one said it was. They were given permission by the owner of Zucarotti Park when the entire movement began. Throwing these misdemeanors out as some kind of "crime against Western Civilization" is just hyperbole talking points designed to distract. Thus, saying it over and over just means I'm going to ignore it.
Actually, you've said, several times, that they have the right to camp out. They don't. Also, the owners of Zuccotti Park were prevented by threats from local politicians from having the protestors evacuate the park in the beginning. So they didn't really give permission, but they were forced to not deny them permission. I think it also underlines the fact that many of the protestors don't want to change the system to just force Wall Street to play fair. They want a society where they get to do whatever they want when they want.
and going home afterwards.
Too bad, as it's their Constitutional right to not do so.
But, again, it's not their Constitutional right to camp out on private property.
Camping out for this long isn't really doing anything for them. Public opinions polls prove that.
Heh. Because we know how honest, and unbiased, and non-fictional those "public opinion polls" are.
Meanwhile, it wouldn't matter if "Public Opinion Polls" were declaring they are eating puppies. The Movement is the Right of American citizens to protest, be heard, and demand a better life for what the 1% believe are their Corporate Slaves. The public can go fuck themselves. Either stand with us, or get out of the way. There's no third option.
"Either stand with us, or get out of the way."
Since when are you part of the movement?
I'm pointing out that "your" movement is shooting itself in the foot. It's accomplishing nothing. What good is a movement that accomplishes nothing? What will it change? It'll change two things. Jack and shit. And Jack just left town. So feel happy about what 'you' have accomplished.
Before it might have been about changing how the government treats Wall Street. Now, it's a bunch of people wanting to feel good about themselves and thinking they own whatever they want.
That's your interpretation, not a fact. And while I would agree that, with any movement, the fear of being hijacked by a larger, singular message would, in fact, deteriorate the effectiveness of said Movement, I see no larger signs beyond a few groups of individuals out of hundreds and hundreds of thousands who are bad apples. Do they need to take care of their bad apples? Yes. As does anyone. Does it in any way discredit or take away meaning from The Movement? Only to those who are desperately searching for a way to do so in the first place...
Again, my interpretation is what most Americans are thinking right now. The fact that 'your' movement has no singular message is hurting it. This isn't the Civil Rights March. MLK Jr. didn't camp out for months in Washington. Right now, there is no meaning to what they're doing. No meaning means no change. Especially if these people don't actually use their right to vote to actually change things.
