Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
 Originally Posted By: Captain Sweden
The implied transphobia of this thread disgust me.

Just because some women were unfortunate to be born with male genitals, doesn't give us (cismales) the right to ridicule them.


I think it was intended to be fun and playfully surprising , not as "transphobic".
Any more than backlashes of "Ann Coulter is a man" are transphobic. It just implies that Ann Coulter is tough like a man. And I think McGurk's remark was far more light and humorous in intent than the remarks directed at Coulter.

I'm sorry Dave, but those who were against Coulter and used that bad rhetoric were indeed claiming she was MtF, with the remarks of her supposed Adam's apple and looks in general.

But I should have refereed only to the original poster rather than the whole thread, since I know see how other (innocent) posters could mistake my post as directed to them all.

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I actually had to look up the term "cismales", and although some of the details are still not clear to me, it roughly translates to trans-gender

I'm sorry Dave, but that interpretation is incorrect.

Cisgender is actually very simple. Easiest way to put it, is that it's the opposite of transgender.

A cisgender person, like you (I assume as much) and me, are male spirits/souls/minds in male bodies. We are, basically, content with being males in male bodies.

A transgender person is someone who's spirit/soul/mind does not correspond with his or her body. Often described as being "born in the wrong body". A MtF is a women "trapped" in a male body, a FtM is a man "trapped" in a woman's body.

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I was likewise trying to be fun.

I jokingly said "gross" because it isn't something that aligns with my tastes. The same way that I think putting ketchup on a hot dog is gross.

I don't really think the analogy is apt, but whatever flows your boat, I guess.

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There was a guy named Magicjay who used to post here who became a fun contributer here for a while, and was an articulate representative of the transgender lifestyle. As I recall he lived in the San Francisco area, and had an operation to become a woman around the time he stopped posting here.


First of all, being MtF or FtM it's not a lifestyle choice more than it is for me to wear spectacles, due to me being myopic. I don't consider myself to have a "myopic" life-style. (There are those who wear glasses without needing them; they wear spectacles with window glasses instead of lenses. But I digress.) However, transgender is a broad term that envelope being MtF/FtM as well as transvestites, Drag Queens, Drag Kings and other cross-dressers. If you think a MtF is having a "transgender life-style" because she wears a skirt before HRT and SRS, I suppose you have a point. But it's a very minor point.

Second, I doubt Magicjay (I remember very little of her, I must add) considered herself "male" right until she got SRS. As I said before, a MtF isn't a male who chooses to be a woman, a MtF is a woman who wants to get a female body which she is comfortable with. Which I pointed out earlier, is far from being without cost, but much better than living in the wrong type of body.


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