Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
So can Zimmerman.


I pay more attention to what his injuries and the eye witness say than what Zimmerman said. There's value to it of course, but it's peripheral.

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If you just assume the killer is automatically telling the truth, sure.


In which case, the author automatically assumes he's lying because he actually has the gall to ignore the idea that he was defending himself in favor of making the idea that an unarmed individual being gunned down is inherently unjust. So cops shouldn't fire on unarmed criminals that try to attack them? Why are they even issued firearms?

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You're making some assumptions on that front. As far as we know Zimmerman pulled his gun on Martin and the poor kid just got some licks in before Zimmerman got one of those assholes that always get away. I think I would fight for my life if I was in that situation and also be screaming for help while doing it.


You argue against what you claim is an assumption with another assumption.

And, quite frankly, I don't believe that most parties (you included) would risk a gun shot if they thought being still would keep someone from firing on them. That would lead me to believe that Martin didn't know he had a gun as he beat him into the ground until Zimmerman managed to pull it out and shoot.

But really, why bother calling 911 if he was just going to gun him down? Why not shoot him immediately? You've yet to address this.

Last edited by Pariah; 2012-05-21 10:27 PM.