Honestly, Loebs ultimate comics run was the worst writing in the Ultimate lines short history, including a bunch of the X-mens and Fantastic Four. Thor speaking in Shakespearian English, the Ultimates watching Tony and (the recently deceased traitor) Black Widow have sex while Tony becomes a depressed and dying drunk instead of the 'dying-but-care-free Playboy sex addicted billionaire who drinks a dry martini before jumping into a $100 billion robots ass', Pietro and Wanda getting horny after watching the video and going into their room to fuck, Wasp explaining to Cap that the twins are in love, treating Cap as an asshole for thinking that's gross, Blob eating Wasp in Ultimatum, and I'm sure I'd find more if I ever went back and looked at his run of issues again but I honestly just can't. I don't think anyone other than Millar and Ellis really understood what the Ultimate comics should be. Even Bendis couldn't get any footing when he stepped out of Ultimate Spiderman. Hell even Damon Lindelof, who only got to write a mini because of he co-created Lost (a show Loeb wrote for) did a better Ultimate universe comic than Loeb could ever hope to do!
