But seriously...



 Originally Posted By: Nowhereman
You dont want to accept my point because you hate gays (self loathing maybe).


I don't "hate" gays. I have a number of friends, classmates and business associates over at least 30 years I've never hesitated to associate with, despite that I disagree with them politically, and believe that homosexuality is (as it was diagnosed until the 1970's) an obsessive disorder and not an "alternative lifestyle".
As a minority of the psych professional community still treats as the obsessive disorder that it is.

They are otherwise often good people, but in some ways flawed. Like the rest of us. But emboldened in their delusion by an agenda by the radical Left to use them as pawns in pursuit of a radical agenda.


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The point that AIDs is not exclusive has nothing to do with my point, which is that if you have a gay character, why do you specifically have an AIDs related villain unless you are trying to say its a "gay disease"? Why not have an AIDs vampire attack Batman? Oh I know why, he isnt gay. Thats the logic they were using. Its cliched hack writing, and homophobic.
You then compare to an Adam Sandler sketch which is the complete opposite. He is a vampire who did not want to catch AIDs, and was asking heterosexual women if they had it. How is that the same as a vampire with AIDs specifically created because a character was gay?


A) I've never read the frigging story, so I don't know beyond your sayso what it is, or implies.

B) As I've said elsewhere, I often like stories, and even rank them among my favorites, even though they are by liberal writers with a liberal perspective. I can think of many stories by guys like Dennis O'Neil, Gerry Conway, Mike Friedrich and the like, as well as stories like "Santa Claus vs. S.P.I.D.E.R." and "Hitler Painted Roses" by Harlan Ellison, that playfully mock specific conservatives like Reagan and Nixon, and more broadly Judao-Christian conservative beliefs. But while diametrically opposed to my beliefs, I still enjoy them as well told stories.

So conversely, even if I agreed with the sentiments of the AIDS vampire story you cite (I don't know, I've never read it), that doesn't guarantee that I would endorse the story, just because it allegedly might share my opinion of gays. It might still be crap (close to 100% of comics I've read in the last 10 years are) so even if I agreed with its politics, it could still be a poorly told story.
I recall a gay vampire story back in the late 1980's in CLIVE BARKER: TAPPING THE VEIN, that I found cheap and annoying. (I think illustrated by Craig Russell. It was 30 years ago.)

Conversely, a story among my favorites that had gay characters in SABRE issue 3 (1982), by Don McGregor, Billy Graham and George Freeman. They were characters in a neighboring jail cell, with a universal message about freedom, persecution and friendship, that I felt portrayed the characters with nobility, but without beating the reader over the head with the fact the characters were gay.

Heavy-handedness having replaced any subtlety whatsoever is my biggest complaint with comics of the last 25 years or so.
I'm very old-school.