You of course picked the poll that showed what you liked but my comment was about multiple polls out. They do show Trump retaining a lot of republican support but outside of his party it’s pretty ugly. Considering that the Republican Party became all about Trump I guess at this point it shouldn’t be surprising. It would be like a cult turning on its messiah.
I don’t see your reasoning being sound on the capital riot just for the simple fact that Biden had already won. There was nothing Pence could do within the Constitution to prevent that from happening. Trump however sold it as a game changing day for him. His followers believed that somehow Trump could still win because he falsely told them so. And as they stormed and rioted did Trump in anyway act like a decent human being much less a President of our country? No he was mostly silent while Rudy was calling elected officials in an attempt to prolong the certification. To me it’s pretty clear he incited the riot and than tried to use it to get republicans to do what he wanted. Pence at best could have prolonged the certification but that was it. If republicans have had the house though I’m afraid we could have seen a scenario where republicans basically threw out the election and picked the loser to stay in power. Fortunately Pelosi is still majority leader there so that wasn’t possible.
You're being an asshole.
They do show Trump retaining a lot of republican support but outside of his party it’s pretty ugly.
"Outside his party", 48% of independents think the election was rigged, as do 30% of Democrats ! As I detailed and linked before. Moe than 50% of the country thinks the election was illegitimate. To bring unity, Biden and the Democrats, if they had nothing to hide, should WELCOME investigation and full disclosure. This is never going away, without an investigation.
And Biden, opposite his pledge to "heal the division", even before his inauguration, is welcoming a social media Orwellian purge of all dissenting conservative thought, is unleashing amnesty for at least 11 million illegal immigrants, while simultaneously ceasing all deportations and creating a nightmare for Border Patrol, and talking about "dismantlement of America's fossil-fuel industry", stopping the Canadian "Keystone XL" oil pipeline, and further trying to crush 6.9 million energy industry jobs. Biden and the Democrats are throwing acid on an open would, and provoking not just dissent, but intolerable rage from their conservative opposition. It's like they are deliberately trying to stoke conservatives into an armed revolution.
If Republicans regard Trump as a "messiah" it's because he has fulfilled his promises more than any other president, has doubled our economy, that has benefited Americans at every income level, has secured our border for the first time since Eisenhower was president, has accomplished more than any previous president in just 4 years, and I'm saddened he was cheated out of a second term that he has richly earned. As I've cited repeatedly, with links, the Heritage Foundation even showed quantifiably that Trump achieved more than even Ronald Reagan did, in Reagan's first year. That's not mindless "worship", not a "cult", it's a rational enthusiasm for his presidency, based how well Trump has fulfilled his promises, and how well he has represented the interests of those who voted for him. And with those accomplishments, even won over the loyalty of many who did NOT vote for him, or like myself, people who were anxious about whether Trump as someone who never previously held office could be an effective president. He is, on his proven achievements, the most effective president of my lifetime.
I picked the same polls I've been posting here for over 10 years, whether they agree with my point of view or not.
Rasmussen across several presidential elections, beginning in 2004, has been the single most accurate, or among the most accurate, in predicting the winner in election after election.
Gallup is a polling company that is clearly liberal, but it is among the most well known polling groups. I've been citing them for at least 15 years, on their annual polls of Christian/other religious/atheist identification in the U.S., and back to the beginnings of the Tea Party movement, that showed they poll as approximately as racial and income-diverse as the general U.S. population, as contrasted with the Occupy Wall Street movement that was overwhelmingly young and white and spoiled children of the wealthy upper class.
Gallup also shows that the U.S. is the first choice of people in countries polled worldwide of the nation they would like to immigrate to, the other top choices much further down the list are Britain, France and Germany. If I recall, over a billion foreign nationals would like to move to the U.S., far more than we can accommodate.
The point being, I selected these because they are two of the most known polling companies, pro-Trump, anti-Trump or otherwise.
Regarding my comments about the Capital riots, I don't know what in particular you question about my "reasoning". I think it's pretty obvious that Trump won and was cheated of a second term by election fraud. I've posted the abundant evidence, that no judge or court would listen to, and denied him justice. He was also denied justice in the electoral vote on Jan 6th, even by his own establishment vice president.
But this much remains true, 74.223,251 Trump voters are outraged, the 48% of independents are outraged, and even 30% of Democrats all agree Trump was cheated by election fraud. And Trump is clearly ready to run again in 2024 and reverse this injustice in the next election. And that's why the Democrats and the Democrat zealots in FBI, DOJ, CIA, State Department, DHS and every government agency want to destroy him. That's the clear motivation for trying to make Trump radioactive, "racist", "white supremacist", impeached on false charges, and render him by whatever deceitful means too toxic to vote for.
But as I cited in the above polls, that scheme is not working for Democrats, the liberal media, and the Peter Strzoks and Lisa Pages who infest all our government agencies.
It's "clear Trump incited a riot" to you because you're a liberal zealot, who welcomes any coup or vicious slander that would give your Democrat-Bolshevik party control and a political victory.
I posted the evidence.
The timeline doesn't match.
The closest thing to "incitement" by Trump was saying
"in a few minutes you'll be marching over to the Capitol building to PEACEFULLY and patriotically express your support" for Senators and House members making a legal case for challenging electors in corrupted state elections.
The overwhelming evidence is that police, FBI and DHS knew of planned violence A MONTH before the Jan 6 speech by Trump, so again, CLEARLY not incited by Trump.
And as you yourself acknowledged in a previous post, Trump gave a televised message only 1 hour and 45 minutes after the violence began at 12:40 PM. Trump was still giving a speech for the first 31 minutes the violence began. It probably took him another 15 to 30 minutes to learn of the situation, and time to organize his thoughts and write a statement that woudl be an effective message to deal with the situation. I think it was politically unusual but effective to say "I love you, you're very special, but it's time for you to go home in peace." Effective because even the angrier Trump supporters (the ones who were not leftist Antifa, with malicious motive) felt cheated by the courts, cheated by their state governors and secretaries of state, and state legislators, and U.S. legislators, and even state appelate judges and U S Supreme Court, wanted to be heard and appreciated. And Trump's words in a brief statement GAVE them that much-needed appreciation, that someone heard them, that someone cares about their concerns. And because they are overwhelmingly law-abiding and respectful people, who love their country, they listened to him and immediately went home.
I still say, with evidence, Antifa was at the center of all the violence that occurred that day, stoking anger and pushing Trump supporters to do violence they otherwise would never have done. Motivating the less thoughtful of Trump's supporters *(the podium-stealing guy, the guy with his feet up on Pelosi's desk, the viking-looking guy with the horns) to engage in some mischief. But the violent attacks, the ones where people died, that was Antifa. That's absolutely proven with BLM maniac Jon Sullivan, getting Ashli Babbitt killed. While still undisclosed and being investigated, officer Sicknick was likely killed by Antifa. The attack in the hall on officers, where the attackers brought their own riot shields, tear gas, pepper spray and gas masks, again looks like a false-flag Antifa orchestrated raid. But leave it to Democrats, even with all the evidence to that effect, to keep selling the false narrative that it was all Trump supporters, and use that deceitful crumbling narrative to impeach Trump.
