Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Btw regarding your earlier post above that, unlike the others Trump fought the attempts to the documents. We know this because it was reported on as it happened. This wasn’t something that was sprung on him out of nowhere. Furthermore according to the indictment he lied and had documents moved in an effort to keep them. Some of his ex lawyers are witnesses. Do you understand why?


As I said, Trump was in contact with the FBI and NARA records people every day by phone or in person. And by all accounts, it was a very frindly relationship on both sides. Trump complied with every request.
AT ANY TIME they could have come to Mar A Lago and taken the records, no arrest warrants, no raids, no indictments .
And in the cases of Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Bill Richardson, Sandy Berger, Hillary Clinton, Huma Abedin, Mike Pence and Joe Biden, there were far more egregious violations where the FBI *DID NOT* file raids or indictments, and that clearly proves the bias against Trump by the 97% Democrat-donating FBI made up of Peter Strzoks, Lisa Pages, Andrew McCabes, Bill Priestaps, James Bakers, James Comeys, and Kevin Clinesmiths, there was far greater justification for raids, indictments, and prosecution.
There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY, looking at their internal FBI messages, the FBI and DOJ's 97% ratio of donating Democrat, their history of rigging cases against Republicans and scuttling cases against Democrats like Hillary Clinton or Lois Lerner, that you will EVER convince me this isn't evidence of blatant and overwhelming partisan FBI bias.

There it is, plain as day, so obvious, and you insultingly pretend that bias doesn't clearly exist. As if they are being fair to Trump. In the Manhattan case, in the Mar A Lago case, in the Atlanta phone call case, they have to re-write the law, make up new conflations, federalize local cases that are not their jurisdiction, as has never been done before, to MAKE UP ways to indict Trump.
And they know it will not be successful, that these cases will be thrown out in court or at worst reversed on appeal. But they are gambling that the scandal will shave off just a few percentage points of Trump's election support, and they will say ANYTHING, do ANYTHING, break any laws and legal ethics, to prevent Trump from being re-elected.

That is what this is all about.

And the FBI and other federal agencies are really getting ugly now, because if Trump is re-elected with the greater knowledge that he didn't have 4 years ago of what they've been doing (FBI, DOJ, CIA, State Department, leadership of the Obama and Biden administrations, of Hillary Clinton and all her aides) under a new Trump presidency this will all be exposed and prosecuted, and their Deep State /Democrat Bolshevik power will be gone.
And they will not only lose power, but for the first time in their lives face prosecution for the incredible hubris with which they have abused power, for at least 25 years.

I don’t know how you can say by all accounts it was going well. Part of the evidence is some of Trump’s own lawyers with details of how he was trying to keep the classified documents from being taken. Using a lawyer to facilitate a crime isn’t always protected under attorney client privilege smile And yes no doubt if Trump was able to get back in I’m sure he would be getting all the Trump loyalists in that he could. Republicans and Independents can mull that over as we head towards the 2024 election.


You ALMOST told the truth there.

They violated Trump's constitutional rights to executive privelege with his presidential advisors, and violated Trump's attorney-client privilege by shaking down his lawyers and threatening them with prosecution if they wouldn't violate the attorney-client privelege and testify against Trump. They have multiple times invaded Trump's homes and offices on fishing expeditions to find anything, ANYTHING they can use against Trump.

But they have found nothing, and therefore are pursuing indictments in multiple states as a "Plan B" to take him out, that even the best legal scholars, including Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley who both identify as liberals and not Trump supporters, but EVEN THEY say these cases against Trump are contrived and violate constitutional rights, and twist the law into corrupt authoritarian pretzels in a desperate attempt to indict Trump with something. That all these cases against Trump are doomed to fail, and even the lawyers filing them know it, but their only true intent is to smear Trump and shave a few percentage points off his national support, in a desperate bid to lower Trump's popularity just enough to rig the 2024 election.

It is outrageously unfair for FBI and Democrat-Bolshevik U.S. attorneys and local district attorneys to (at the clear bidding of Biden and his puppetmasters in the White House) charge a former president and Biden's current opposition for 2024 on the most specious and unlawful of charges.
It is clearly not about any real crimes, it is just about "get Trump" and damaging him politically, and intimidating his supporters. Each new indictment is just further proof of the absurd use of federal power, to persecute an innocent man, so his Democrat-Bolshevik opposition can win. And each new indictment actually galvanizes Trump's support.