Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Interesting and sad look back at the election. Before this I thought we all shared some basic principles. Losing an election sucks but the willingness to support a candidate’s efforts to steal was an eye opener. Heroes like Pence and Cheney, that I would never vote for because they’re way to conservative stood up knowing what they would be hit with. I think of them when I look at the sad pathetic thing that the GOP is now.

Uh...

2000 election, Democrats: "Bush stole the election!" (Said for many years, despite THREE re-counts in front of the global media, and even multiple privately funded recounts by the Miami Herald, Washington Post, and other major newspapers, that ALSO confirmed that W. Bush won.)
Democrats challenged both the 2000 and 2004 elections.
And then again challenged the 2016 election.

All elections that were legally disputed, if Democrats were less than civil in doing so. Democrats had a right to re-count the votes.
They DIDN'T have a right to slanderously poison the well and allege "Russia collusion" (i.e., Perkins-Coie law firm / Fusion GPS / Christopher Steele, and their "Russia Dossier" that was clearly funded by the Clinton campaign and the DNC, with the full blessing of the Obama White House administration, and rogue Democrat-zealot agents in the FBI, DOJ and CIA, in a malicious and completely untrue legal case against Trump, PROVEN untue) that crippled his presidency (as Democrats intended to) for most of its four years.

These federal officials and agents should be prosecuted and in jail. They are only NOT prosecuted because the Democrats are in power and corruptly protecting them from prosecution.
Even as they SIMULTANEOUSLY manufacture fake charges and maliciously prosecute Donald Trump and others in his administration on further false allegations, burying them in expensive legal cases in FOUR jurisdictions at the same time (Manhattan, Miami, Washington DC, and now Fulton County, GA).


And yet... no one can even ask for a re-count over the 2020 election?
Or make a case with the evidence of election fraud in the election? The multiple irregularities and outright proof of election fraud?
Republicans are not even allowed to ask, despite abundant evidence.
And in several cases, the ballots (Arizona) that are required BY LAW to be kept on file for such a re-count, were immediately shredded and destroyed. The election riggers made sure no election re-count was even possible.
But Republicans are portrayed as crazy evil insurrectionists, if they even ask for a re-count and investigation, what they are entitled to, BY LAW.

THE SAME challenges that the Democrats themselves took, in 2000, 2004, and 2016, that they maliciously pursued in every election they lost over the last 20 years.
And Republicans are shameful and crazy and insurrectionist for demanding investigation, based on far more evidence of election fraud in 2020 ?


NO ONE will ever convince me that Joe Biden legitimately won in Nov 2020. There is no logical way this Biden "victory" occurred.
Up until 3 AM on election night, Trump was winning in every battleground state. In all these contested states, Democrat election officials deceitfully sent Republican vote observers home, saying they were done for the night, and then in their absence continued counting. And lo and behold, all of a sudden the Democrats counting votes, unsupervised by observers sent home, suddenly THEN there was a spike in votes for Biden, in those 8 or so unsupervised hours. In several cases with security videocamera footage, and hundreds of sworn witnesses to the fraud taking place.

Regarding January 6th, YOU NEVER EXPLAIN: If Trump signed a presidential order and arranged for up to 20,000 national guard troops to be guarding Washington Square to prevent any violence on Jan 6 2021, how is Trump allegedly responsible for the small amount of rioting on that day in and around the Capitol building. Trump didn't want or stoke an "insurrection".
Quite the contrary, HE ARRANGED TO PREVENT rioting. Why is it not Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and DC mayor Muriel Bowser who are held responsible for the violence, WHO PREVENTED those 20,000 troops from ever being deployed, THAT TRUMP ORDERED?

Liz Cheney is no hero, she is a self-serving uni-party establishment propagandist, who propped up a narrative in her January 6th House committee, that evaded the facts I just laid out, to prop up a lying Democrat propaganda narrative.
And both Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger (Democrat puppets posing in "R" hats) were overwhelmingly ejected from office by their ACTUAL Republican constituents for the deceitful narrative they tried to create.
And because the January 6th committee's narrative is so clearly false THE DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP THEMSELVES SHREDDED THE "January 6th Committee" FILES, TO PREVENT THEIR FALSE EVIDENCE FROM BEING EXPOSED.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/j6...pitol-hill-security-failures-gop-charges

There it is, the proof Democrats and these fake Republicans were lying.
If you had any interest in seeing the truth.


And if then-V P Mike Pence, as president of the elector-vote joint session on January 6 2021 had done his job, he would have noted the irregularities in the 2020 election, NOT approved the elector votes, and Pence would have instead sent the electors back to their respective 50 states to investigate election fraud.
After that, Pence could have approved the elector votes at a later date, if no fraud could be proven, but at least he would have allayed the legitimate concerns of a majority of Republican legislators in the room, and the legitimate conccerns of at least 74.3 million Republican voters nationwide.
But no, Instead Pence just rubber-stamped a visibly corrupt (or at best clearly questionable) election, and handed over the country to Joe Biden and the Democrat-Bolsheviks, who have done more damage to the country than any president in history over the last 3 years. Without investigation before approving the elector vote, over 50% of voters will never accept this as a legitimate election.
Not just me, but millions, Republican, Democrat, and independent.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...cans-say-election-was-not-free-and-fair/
Pence could have prevented that. He didn't.

"Heroes like Pence and Cheney" are NOT heroes. They are Judases, who sold out the country, for their own political gain, trying to shove Trump down into the mud, so they could step over his political corpse and take over the Republican party. It didn't work.

And almost 3 years later, further evidence of election tampering and fraud has become more evident. The wide perception that the 2020 election was rigged HAS INCREASED, not decreased.
And even among Democrats, if not for the social media censorship of the Hunter Biden laptop story in Oct-Nov 2020, about 15 percent OF DEMOCRATS say would NOT have voted or Biden in 2020, and Trump would have won.

And further evidence of Democrat election tampering was exposed by the "Twitter Files".
Democrat former FBI and CIA agents, who had moved on to high legal positions at Twitter, Facebook, Google and other social media giants, worked to corruptly censor information about Biden, falsely banning information about the Hunter Biden laptop as "Russian disinformation" to prevent Biden from losing, that THEY KNEW was not disinformation, that THEY KNEW was true and accurate information. And used their power to deprive voters of that information.

I don't know what your "basic principles" are, but they seem pretty far removed from ethics and the facts.

Your "principles" seem to be about the Democrat-Bolsheviks winning elections by any means and at all costs, and in revisionism portraying these deceptions and strong-arm tactics as "heroic".
And you seem perfectly okay with silencing Republicans, weaponizing IRS, FBI, DOJ and CIA against their opposition, imprisoning Republicans on false charges, and using violence and intimidation against Republicans.
Which again, are precisely the tactics of the Bolshevik party in Soviet Russia, the Maoists in China, and communist regimes in Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela. You seem totally on board with that.

Those are your "heroes", the liars who would do that. And as I've detailed in multiple other topics, the inner circle around the Clintons and the Obamas worship these communist radical governments, so it is no surprise they use the same tactics as their communist role models, when they themselves rise to positions of power. You are cheering on the people trying to turn our constitutional republic into a one-party authoritarian marxist state. And you seem utterly immune to the facts that this is occurring, as you cheer on the marxists as if they were defending democracy, instead of doing the opposite as they truly are.