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Beardguy57 said: I picked The Borg and Q as coolest villains. As noted earlier in here, the Borg saved Voyager. Q was always cool. He was so nice to Picard, he even introduced the Borg to the Federation. Was he a great guy or what?
But Kahn saved Star Trek. There would never have been a Voyager to save, or a Borg race, or a Q to introduce them, if not for Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn.
Doesn't make him the coolest. Just means he came before them, IMO.
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BTW, a villain that's sorely missing from this list is Evil Kirk. I always liked him, but couldn't fit him in
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Wednesday said: BTW, a villain that's sorely missing from this list is Evil Kirk.
Please be more specific. Otherwise, you're just talking about William Shatner.
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William Shatner is a great villain.
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For coolest villain, I went with Chang. I've yet to see Wrath of Khan, to my eternal shame, so I don't know about Khan really.
Bets aliens went to the Q collective, largely on Q. The others of his kind we've seen have been alright ideas (anyone remember the girl who didn;t know she was one of them?) but less brilliant characters. Q, on the other hand, ruled the galaxy.
Uhura won for me, largely on the basis of the original series. TNG's women were all a bit dull, and Voyager and DS9 dnever really made their girls sexy (other than Seven, who wasn;t really my type).
Picard won best captain for me. True, Kirk symbolised us better, and Archer has a nice ordinariness, but Picard remains my fave. He had an incredible authority which none of the others had, and some wonderful bits of character stuff in the films.
Best movie has to be The Voyage Home. That was the first original series film I ever saw, and I loved it. After that one I'd go for Undiscovered Country and then First Contact. The Original Cast always seemed more at home on the big screen, and the plots were much 'bigger'.
TNG was the best series. Enterprise tailed off into boredom, Voyager had poor sections in the middle, and DS9 was never truly spectacular, though it worked well throughout, and I can say that I never missed an episode. That leaves Classic Trek, and TNG. I never took to the series, which looked, in terms of sets and design, crap. At least in Dr. Who you got a real quarry...
Nope, gotta be TNG. It had some of the best characters, in Picard, Worf and Data, and some of the best storylines, such as Time's Arrow, The Best of Both Worlds and Skin of Evil. Plus, it had a recurring celebrity guest star who was atcually very good in Whoopi Goldberg.
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The honor of saving STAR TREK really goes to Harve Bennet and Nick Meyer (and to some extent, Jack Soward, who wrote KHAN).
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Wednesday said: BTW, a villain that's sorely missing from this list is Evil Kirk.
Please be more specific. Otherwise, you're just talking about William Shatner.
i WAS talking about William Shatner.
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I think he meant WHICH evil Kirk (though I can only think of one)
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PenWing said: But Kahn saved Star Trek. There would never have been a Voyager to save, or a Borg race, or a Q to introduce them, if not for Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn.
The honor of saving STAR TREK really goes to Harve Bennet and Nick Meyer (and to some extent, Jack Soward, who wrote KHAN).
You're forgetting the man behind Kahn, Kahn himself, Ricardo Montalban. There is no one else who could have played this role.
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Evil Kirk? You....Klingon....bastards.
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See he didn't put a poll for best doctor because I would win hands down.
He's dead, Jim.
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Trek's Best Villain(s): The Klingon Empire, because they symbolized the Soviet Union back in the day, and Khan, for the overman attitude, the motivation of revenge and sheer evil.
Trek's Coolest Alien Race: The Klingons, for reasons already mentioned, and the Vulcans, for their Logic with a capital L.
Trek's Sexiest Woman: Tough question. For better or worse, I go with U'Huru and T'Pol. Seven was hot, I give you that, but a tad sterile (not THAT kind of sterile).
Trek's Best Captain: James T. Kirk. Most captains are good.
Trek's Best Movie: Tough one. I say Star Trek III: The Search for Spock.
Trek's Best Series: The Original Series. It's basic, before its time and simply great.
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Seven is sterile? I'll settle for that. But I'm not sure how T'Pol is any more different.
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Her face looks odd on that pic'.
Without really changing my answers, I've edited my post. BTW, it was some time I saw any Star Trek and the latest was from Enterprise.
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Seven, as a character, was very flat and boring. The outift and hairstyle did nothing to make her look sexy in any way. And, most importantly, unlike T'Pol (Jolene), she never got naked on the show.... ![](/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif)
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Best Villains: Khan Noonian Soong and Q.
The choice of Khan is pretty obvious. Not only was he played spectacularly, but the character himself brought out the best in Captain Kirk, making him dig deep. He made me consider for the first time that Kirk could actually be defeated.
Q may not have been as popular a choice, but he's actually my favorite. He's a villain that isn't just evil, and I like that. Q could have destroyed the Enterprise (and DS9) with a blink but chose not to. He was toying with the good guys and you knew it. He was the only villain who was actually (almost) always one step AHEAD of the hero.
Q could be annoying or charming, all depending on his mood. He was infinitely intelligent but didn't mind playing stupid in debate to show Picard his own faults. Q defined every episode he was in. Q for sure.
Coolest Alien Races: The Borg and The Tribbles
The Borg were a menace like no other. Unfeeling to a point the Vulcans could never reach. They were more of a menace to the Federation than all the other alien races combined, and you knew they were never going to wussy out and allow their own kind to join (and before you say it, 7 of 9 was not allowed). The first time I saw the Borg Cube I knew they were gonna kick some ass. And I was right. They went back in time to take over the world. They turned Picard against us and defeated an entire armada. The Klingon could have never done that.
But nothing beats The Tribbles. Cute, little furballs that completely took over the Enterprise. And they really took over. I don't care what you say, they owned that episode. Period. Exclamation point, even. This was not a "Kirk" or "Spock" episode. Who were they? They might as well have handled lighting. No, The Tribbles took over Star Trek like no other race had before or has since. So much so that Trek did a time travel story JUST to revisit that episode.
Sexiest Women: Jeri Ryan and Linda Park.
Both of my sexiest women picks are from Voyager, which is funny cuz that show also had the unsexiest Trek woman as its lead. Anywho:
Say what you want about 7 of 9's character or wardrobe, but nothing she wore could deny those hooters. They were magnificent in form. A series unto themselves. Wonderful. I wanted to show her emotions. I'd upgrade her.
Linda Park is my other choice. Always understated, she didn't try to shine. She was the one that wasn't trying to be a sexpot, and that's sexy. She wasn't trying to give you a boner, but she was pretty enough to do it in a snap. Wonderful.
Best Captain: Captain Jean-Luc Picard
Ah yes. Ah yes. Let's work backwards.
For the purposes of this exposition Captain Kathryn Janeway will be almost completely ignored. Blah.
Captain Jonathan Archer reminded me of the essence of Trek. That captain made me believe he really hadn't been where they were before. Boldly going, and stuff. And no Captain had ever been more bipolar. Archer would smile with his crew one minute, then turn right around and get pissed at 'em for having unclean uniforms. Scott Bakula, you did good.
People may not remember Cmdr./Capt. Benjamin Sisko, but I do. If this was a question of which captain was played the best, Avery Brooks' Sisko would have won hands down. And this is not because he's black. He was just an undeniably great actor. The best to grace Trek, period.
Brooks brought a humanity to the character like no other. Sisko had pain and suffering and he was driven. It wasn't just duty for him. He had a cause. He was actually my other choice.
Now many will vote for Kirk, and I really can't blame them. As G-man said, he balanced logic with humanity. I don't know how much a man who can convince a woman to betray her entire race in just under 15 seconds can represent the common man, but Kirk was THE MAN. He was James Tiberius Kirk and you knew it. If any captain would be a Federation legend, it was him.
But my choice is Picard. Why? Not because he was portrayed the best or the most three dimensional or even the most memorable. Picard was quite simply the best captain Trek has ever seen. He defined his ship. He didn't take shit, so his crew didn't take shit. When he was serious, the entire crew took note and acted accordingly. He spoke down to a being of infinite knowledge and power. He violated The Prime Directive for breakfast. He was both a bad ass and the ultimate authority figure. He was the dad everyone wished they had, and that's why he's the best captain. Picard, I love you.
Best Movie: Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
First, every TNG movie has sucked balls. I won't even say "IMO". This is fact. None of them have captured the greatness of TNG. They've been too busy trying to bring in the bucks with impressive graphics and easy to understand plots. Blah.
But The Voyage Home. Aye verily! This is the original crew at its best. First, everyone gets a chance to shine. This isn't a Shatner fest like The Wrath of Khan. Everyone is there and everyone interacts. Even Scotty gets to show the modern man that he should be living in the caves. Wut!
And some of the best interactions between the crew members. Every member says something to another that's just perfect. Wut again!
Best Series: "Star Trek: The Next Generation"
The hardest decision for me. DS9 was great, but it really came down to the original and TNG and they were about even. The original had wonderful stories that asked the tough questions and delved into the human psyche. That series was a true reflection of the modern day human condition set in a far off century.
But everything else goes to TNG. There has never been a cast that could act like this one. There is a reason Picard didn't take over like Kirk did: he didn't have to. Everyone was great. Sirtis, McFadden, Burton, Frakes, Dorn, and, of course, Spiner. All of them consummate, they made their characters known. These, ladies and gentleman, were professionals.
The originals special effects were beyond their time, true, but many forget that TNG's were as well. Even moreso, really. Sure you saw that kind of stuff all the time...in movies. To this day, you STILL don't see effects on TV that compare to the stuff you saw in that show. They did things that seemed minute because they were perfect. Pan out to show an alien landscape or the inside of a Borg Cube and no one will even notice cause it looks so real.
The original will not be forgotten, but TNG was the best.
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That was very gay. But as a balding man, I will accept your affection on behalf of J-L. Picard.
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Yeah, he even had a great career after the show......I means those afternoons specials ares the bests!!!
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Yeah, he even had a great career after the show......I means those afternoons specials ares the bests!!!
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