Originally Posted by MisterJLA
Originally Posted by First Amongst Daves
I'm not convinced putting sentences into large font and bold is going to persuade anyone, Dave. My eyes skim over it.

As a foreigner (not to me, but to most of you) setting aside the deaths and injuries of the day, I think I was most dismayed by the Confederate flag being walked through the Capitol building.

That's got to be a cause of national shame, no matter your political persuasion. I think about something analogous and its consequences: There'd be riots if the nazi flag was walked through the Houses of Parliament in London, let alone the National Assembly in Paris.

Lincoln would have been spinning in his grave. I watched General Milley talk about this during I think a congressional hearing, and when he noted it, you could see he had to swallow his fury. How galling that the enemy flag of a slaving nation should be in any government building except as a trophy of war, let alone upright while lawmakers scrambled to safety.

The MAGA traitors will just blame that on the phantom "Antifa/CIA plants".

It's always somebody else's fault.

Or more accurately, Republicans/Conservatives/Trump supporters, ARE RIGHT.
That they WERE framed, and the true perpetrators are false-flag Antifa and federal agents.

Well over 100,000 "peaceful and patriotic" Trump supporters showed up on January 6th, NOT to riot, NOT to commit an "insurrection" (a lying narrative that has been utterly destroyed by the facts).
NOT "traitors".
Just over 100,000 Trump supporters showed up to express their first amendment free speech right to their opinion, and first amendment right to PEACEFULLY assemble, and PEACEFULLY protest an unfair and rigged election.

1) That the election was rigged and that Joe Biden should never have been president, is abundantly clear now. The suppressed Hunter Biden laptop, participation by the FBI and CIA in suppressing it, with semi-retired high-level FBI and CIA agents from both those federal agencies further working in the private sector to suppress the laptop story through their executive positions in Facebook, Twitter and other social media companies, working in coordination with [Democrat] agents still in FBI and CIA to do so.
17% of Democrats in poll after poll over the last 4 years say they would NOT have voted for Joe Biden if they had known the suppressed truth on Hunter Biden's laptop.
PERIOD. THE END. Fact.
A rigged election.

2) Further, the irregularities in voting, with millions of faked mail-in ballots.
Until 3 AM on election night, Trump was winning in all 7 battleground states.
Then in each of these states, Republican vote observers were sent home,on the pretense that vote-counting would stop for the night and resume in the morning. And with Democrats alone, counting un-observed, WOW, suddenly there was an insane spike in votes for Joe Biden.
WOW, WHAT AN AMAZING COINCIDENCE !
Biden got just enough votes nationwide, in a few Democrat-controlled cities and voting centers, to manufacture a "narrow" Biden victory in the election.
But security video in Atlanta shows Democrat election workers pulling out boxes of fake votes as soon as Republican vote observers were tricked into leaving, with the excuse of a fake "water main break".
And at roughly the same time, security video also shows a Ryder truck pulling up at 3AM behind the Detroit voting center, filled with giant garbage bags of fake ballots, with no chain of custody.
WOW AGAIN, nothing suspicious AT ALL about the sudden spike in ballots counted for Biden after that 3AM drop-off, with no Republican observers, at the Detroit voting center.

3) And the faked letter by "51 intelligence officials" (organized by now-secretary of state Anthony Blinkin) who in a signed letter condemned the Hunter Biden laptop story when released (which FBI knew about because they were doing illegal surveillance on Rudy Giuliani and other Trump campaign officials in late 2016, in their conversations for months with reporter Miranda Devine as she prepared the Hunter Biden laptop story, in the weeks leading up to publication of that series of articles, FBI surveilling them all, using a faked illegal FISA surveillance warrant to do so).


4) The "Twitter files" released by Elon Musk when he took over Twitter, and gave them to several respected independent journalists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Files
Man, is the liberal media working overtime to try and bury THAT story.


Who are the victims, Australia-Dave? Who are the criminals?

Despite the evidence being clear, you refuse to look at the truth, that this is a government weaponized against its people.
And Trump and his supporters are the victims.
There is OVERWHELMING evidence of conspiracy by Democrats in federal agencies, and malicious prosecution of Trump and his supporters





And then the protests on January 6th....

20 undercover FBI agents in the protest crowd, DISGUISED AS Trump supporters.
20 DHS agents undercover hidden in the crowd, DISGUISED AS Trump supporters.
10 DC Metro police officers hidden in the crowd, DISGUISED AS Trump supporters.
At least 20 Antifa activists hidden in the crowd, led by John Earle Sullivan, DISGUISED AS Trump supporters.
All with hostility toward Trump supporters stated in their own videos (Antifa, John Earle Sullivan) or on social media(many individual FBI and DC Metro officers), or even in media interviews after and far preceding Jan 6th (Michael Fanone, and Harry Dunn, among others) . All there to frame Trump supporters.

And by he way, ALL the deaths on January 6th were Trump supporters, andNONE of hem were inflice by Trump supporters.
Even officer Brian Sicknick (who died of a stroke) had written his congressman in opposition to the Trump impeachment, a year prior to his death.

An UNARMED Ashli Babbitt (age 35) was shot to death by Capitol police Lt. Michael Byrd, through the window panel on a locked door, for NO LOGICAL REASON. She was no threat to him.

The other three deaths, Roseanne Boyland (age 34), Kevin Greeson (age 55); and Benjamin Philips (age 50) all had pre-diagnosed health conditions and officially are listed as "natural causes" deaths. But witnesses in the crowd attest to the fact that despite just standing there waving flags, a photographed but unidentified police officer (or someone disguised as one) hit them with concussion grenades over and over, and it was that unnecessary trauma, not natural causes, that caused each of them to go into cardiac arrest from which they could not be revived.


70 fake Trump supporters, particularly the "at least 20" undercover FBI agents, at least one of whom, an FBI supervisor, had just orchestrated a fake kidnapping incident in Michigan to frame conservatives there for a non-existent Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping in Michigan a few months prior, a wife-swapping, wife-beating supervisor who in his social media posts hates Republicans and Trump supporters, who led the framing sting operation.

And JUST BY THE WILDEST COINCIDENCE, well... THIS guy is selected to oversee FBI surveillance of the Trump supporters on January 6th.

And with all those 70 operatives and possibly many more they don't admit to, only 60 incidents of vandalism or violence on January 6th.
Where, in contrast, historically at least 6 other incidents have occurred in the Capitol over the last 70 years, that FAR exceed the violence and destruction of the minor rioting that occurred on January 6th. And I think most if not all those 60 lesser Jan 6th incidents of vandalism and violence were done by Antifa, by undercover FBI, and by other Trump-hating false-flag agents.

There are dozens of men caught on video but were never identified or arrested, FBI never used face-recognition technology or cel phone signals to track them down.
WHY IS THAT?
Because they were false-flag FBI agents, that the FBI never wants to be identified.
And yet FBI used that face-recognition software, and cel-phone "geo-fence", to identtify every last trespassing grandma who went in, or even near, the Capitol that day, smashed down their doors in 6 AM raids with AR-15 laser-dots on their heads as they threw them to the floor and arrested them. Maximum intimidation, when they could have just phoned them to surrender and meet FBI at an appointed time with their lawyer.

The ONLY ones I know of who violently clashed with police were the Oath Keepers, and they were tricked into it by an undercover FBI agent who shared a hotel room the night before Jan 6th with the Oath Keepers' leader, and it was his FBI agent who gave Oath Keepers their battle plan, very similar to the fake Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping, where FBI created the entire plot, provided the getaway van and the driver, and then tricked 2 or 3 dimwitted outsider locals to participate, but convicted them as if THEY created the plan, rather than the Trump-hating FBI who sett them up. An FBI desperate to manufacture fake "dangerous right-wing white supremacist incidents". The Democrat-weaponized FBI now uses 60% of its resources to chase these phantoms, JUST to create a "dangerous right wing white supremacist" anti-Trump narrative.
Resources the FBI should be using to investigate the ACTUAL threats of drug cartels, Chinese spies, and the clear threat of islamic terrorism.
But the 97% Democrat-donating FBI hoses away their limited resources, just to prop up a Democrat anti-Trump / anti-Republican narrative.


And then rather than these FBI agents being fired for obviously framing people in this fiasco, these FBI criminals were sent to the Capitol, to further frame Trump supporters on Jan 6th.


And of 1,300 Trump supporters arrested regarding Jan 6th, only 600 of whom in any way went inside the Capitol, 90% of whom were only guilty of at most "trespassing", punishable normally by a fine of $200 or less, were held in prison indefinitely without trial, for over 2 years.
Until Republicans gained a majority in the Nov 2022 election, and inaugurated in Jan 2023, took over the House investigation of January 6th, and forced release of the suppressed 40,000 hours of Capitol surveillance video, PROVING these people almost all just walked around inside the Capitol and were guilty of no crimes.
Even the innocent ones, along with those who were guilty of piddly offenses like stealing Nancy Pelosi's podium, or propping their feet up on a desk in Pelosi's outer office for a photo (urged to pose for the photo by undercover FBI agents), were pressured to sign confessions or face super-overcharged years in jail for piddly crimes, due to tacking on made-up federal charges of "interrupting a federal proceeding" and so forth.
Some of them even committed suicide, when they cooperated in plea bargains for lighter sentences, and then FBI changed the bargain, screwed them over, and added on years in prison after the initial agreement, for what were non-crimes in the first place.

There are DOZENS of people FBI initially had photos up of on their website, who were the true instigators, who committed ACTUAL violent crimes and vandalism, done to frame or incite Trump supporters who didn't take the bait.
And then FBI took down their photos, never identified them, never prosecuted them. Because they were the FBI's own guys, and FBI doesn't wan to embarass themselves by identifying them.
In the case of Ray Epps, FBI tried to do the same, but he was too high profile and clearly identified in conservative media, so they had to give him a minor sentence.
But still less punishment than the innocent Trump supporters they framed, for far lesser non-existent fake crimes.

And regarding the Confederate flag displayed on Jan 6th :

1) SHOW ME where those waving that flag were clearly identified at "Trump supporters". I think it was false-flag agents, not actual Trump supporters, who were displaying that flag.
In one of these topics, I sourced an article identtifying one of he more disgraceful protesters videotaped inside the Capitol (identified, because he was arrested) as a leftist radical DISGUISED AS a Trump supporter, and who further is the son of an ultra-Left liberal judge.
Oh, OH, THE DISGRACE !!! THE CONFEDERATE FLAG, THE SHAME !!
Well, whose disgrace is it?
There are many incidents I've posed VIDEO of, where agent provacateurs smashed windows on he Capittol, and ACTUAL and PEACEFUL Trump supporters yelled "No no, Antifa" and several Trump supporters pulled he vandal away and blocked them from continuing any more vandalism.

2) As I've said repeatedly in a topic here at the time, in the Sept 2017 Charlottesville, VA protests, there were about 2,000 people there, mostly retired military and police, who clearly identified themselves as NOT white supremacists, who were ONLY protesting to preserve the history of keeping the statue of Robert E. Lee on a horse in front of he town's city hall.
"Heritage, not hate", as many express on bumper stickers.
Then about 200-or 300 "Unite he Right" activists who were TRULY white supremacists with their own issues and agenda, made speeches and pushed aside the statue issue to promote their own self serving anti-semitic and white supremacist ideology. The tiki-torches and "Jews will not replace us" stuff.

The 2,000 or so protesting just to keep the Robert E. Lee statue asked them to leave, and refused to march with them.
But... that's NOT how the media portrayed it.
They portrayed ALL the protesters as white supremacists. And the city council and mayor, and state governor (at that time all Democrats), withdrew police protection, and deliberately set up a situation where the two protesting sides were not kept apart, and set them up to clash with each other. To get the "violent dangerous white supremacists" narrative they wanted.

And likewise on Jan 6th, the media, elected leaders and local police orchestrated events to set up and portray the narrative they wanted.
Ignoring all evidence to the contrary. To prop up their desired narrative.