RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events Today Trump plunged the economy over the cliff

It’s Biden’s fault!

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And just as quickly, the crisis passes, 70 countries negotiate and align with Trump, and the stock market within an hour recovers.
And has one of its highest gains in one day in the stock exchange's history.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/trump-tariff-pause/2025/04/10/id/1206374/

Why bother with Newsmax? I see they were just in the news today, lol. I can just get the lies and spin from the criminal felon’s mouth? I don’t take his word for anything. And the market isn’t recovered. After this I think I see other countries never trusting us again and what we had taken for granted is now lost. Wish I was wrong about this.

At the end of World War II, the U.S. set up trade deals in the favor of European nations, Japan, and other countries, that allowed them to re-build their economies after the destruction of World War II.
Buteven afer their economies had fully recovered within 10 years after the end of World War II, at that point those trade deals should have been re-negotiated in a more balanced way with the U.S.

Trump did not deceive or break faith with any of these countries, he just demanded re-negoiated truly equal and fair trade with these countries, and has used the leverage he has to negotiate a better deal wih these countries, that protects U.S. national security, U.S. industry, and jobs for U.S. workers, as our nation's tariffs and trade policies protected U.S. workers up till 1945.


I fail to see what Trump is doing that would back your lying Democrat talking point that other countries should "never trust us again".



Beyond the existing countries' disproportionate trade agreements in their favor till now, they (particularly China) have also manipulated their currencies and set up other unfair practices to prevent TRULY two-way free and fair trade.
To the point that in Germany, in Japan, in South Korea, in China, there are virtually ZERO American cars imported into those countries, while these nations all import massive amounts of cars into the U.S..
And because we till now have not given them the same tariffs they put on us, they are able to sell cars in the U.S. at virtually the same prices as U.S. manufacturers here.
While overseas, foreign tariffs cause U.S. cars to be prohibitively expensive to foreign consumers, and therefore foreign sales of U.S. cars are virtually non-existent.

You propagandize Trump as somehow a criminal who is destroying the U.S., when in fact he is doing what even Democra leaders like Pelosi and Schumer said for decades in their televised speeches, making THE EXACT SAME COMPLAINTS AS TRUMP 10, 20, 30 years ago !

Now these same Democrat leaders hypocritically condemn Trump for doing EXACTLY what THEY THEMSELVES advocated.
Because Trump is doing what they never could.
In truth, while they said it, they never truly had the will or even the desire to fight unfair trade and export of jobs to China. DEMOCRATS just used that rhetoric to lie to American voters, to tell voters what they wanted to hear, to get themselves re-elected through deception.
But Trump really means it, and is doing it. And doing it effectively.

Since we began discussing the issues on these boards in 2001 or so, we've seen the U.S. national debt go from $2 trillion to 5 trillion, to 10 trillion, to 20 trillion, to an incredible 36 trillion now, and rapidly climbing.
The debt particularly under the last 2 Democrat presidents (Obama, and Biden) have risen so high, that just the annual payments on that debt threatens to exceed U.S. national defense budget, threatens the ability of the U.S. to even continue paying for national defense, threatens also to bankrupt Social Security and the ability to fund all other federal entitlements, if we stay on this course.
That just paying the already accumulated debt alone will threaten the ability to pay all these other entitlement spending programs in the near future.
And Trump is the only one, in either party, with the guts and determination to address it.

And the Democrat-Left, and you, demonize him for it ().

It's laughable, how anything Trump does, Democrats in knee-jerk fashion, go hysterical and oppose with the most extreme rhetoric ANYTHING Trump does as president.
Even when Trump does exactly what Democrat leaders themselves have advocated, for YEARS. Decades !

We have been on a path toward enslavement by China for decades, and China has been undermining the U.S. for decades very deliberately in every possible way:

1) Fentanyl funded and set up by China, manufactured in Mexico, killing over 100,000 Americans annually now, more than in any past U.S. war
2) Purchasing U.S. farmland and food production, so that China could conceivably starve U.S. citizens by controlling our food supply.
3) The aforementioned Chinese hollowing out of U.S. manufacturing, industry and jobs.
4) China cyber-attacks on every large and mid-sized company, on every U.S. federal agency including every U.S. military branch, cyber-aacks on our waer and power plans, on ou nuclear reactors, constantly testing their ability to destroy us, either in this way alone, or as part of a larger war.
5) China's cyber-theft from American companies estimated at about $600 billion a year, every year, for decades. And on every other industrialized nation worldwide.
China's further annual trade deficit with the U.S., averaging another 500-plus billion a year.
6) The Covid-19 pandemic, ha came from Wuhan, China. And enabled to spread worldwide by a Chinese-controlled WHO. And other known global outbreaks and biological warfare programs the Chinese have, that we've seen unleashed multiple times over the last 20 years.
7) The Confucius Institute indoctrination, with chapters at U.S. high schools and universities nationwide.
8) The Chinese funding and fomenting of Democrat and other far-Left groups in the United States, such as Antifa, BLM, and the open borders movement, to further damage the U.S. and divide the nation from within. With spies working for Eric Swallwell, Dianne Feinstein, Joe Biden, and Debbie Wasserman Bitch-Cunt Schultz, THAT WE KNOW OF.
And no doubt many others we don't.


So...

It is vital that we de-couple the U.S. from China economically and otherwise, and stop funding our worst enemy. That is exactly what Trump is doing.
That is what Trump was ELECTED to do, by an overwhelming majority.
Even in the districts where Trump did not win in the 2024 election, his support still grew (over 2020) to a larger percentage in every district in the U.S., even in the Democrat-won districts.

There is no certainty that there will be any economic hardship on U.S. citizens during the period of Trump's tariff/trade-war negotiations.
So far, Trump has exhibited absolute control of these negotiations and been victorious despite all the wild Democrat / RINO predictions otherwise ( ).

But even if there is a period of economic hardship and higher prices, it has to be done, and the alternative of allowing the U.S. to be further controlled and indebted to China and globalist forces has to be prevented and reversed away from. Trump is re-building our sovereignty, and rebuilding our industry and high-paying job base.
The alternative is collapse of the U.S. dollar, and enslavement of the U.S. to China and other globalist creditors. That is the inevitable path we were on before Trump ran for president. And Trump alone has exhibited the iron resolve to eliminate that threat, and put us on a better path, to truly restore the American Dream.

While Trump is wreaking havoc on the markets, the gop is pushing through a bill that will add trillions to the deficit with tax cuts for the wealthy while making massive cuts to Medicare and Medicaid. The middle and lower class are going to get hit with higher prices while the richer find it easier to accumulate even more wealth.

If we still have fair elections, people are going to vote this shit out in less than 2 years.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/com...electronics-temporary/story?id=120752319

The orange felon is just making this shit up as he goes along.

First there are tariffs for all, then there's a 90 day pause, electronics will get exemptions, but only temporarily, then's there this bullshit:

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-millions-illegal-immigrants-could-return-farms-hotels-2058413

But I thought illegal immigrants were bad and stuff, ya know?

Complete clown show.

Trump is turning the world against us. We are no longer a safe and stable country to do business with.

Hyperbolic B.S.

Under JFK, under Reagan, under W. Bush, he loss of tax revenue under EXISTING jobs, has actually resulted in creation of vastly more businesses, more factories, and each creating thousands more jobs, that all create tens of billions more in taxable revenue, and therefore MORE revenue for he federal government, not less.

Again, total B.S.

Iran, Russia, China, North Korea, ISIS, Al Qaida, did not respect us more under Joe Biden or Barack Obama. Quite the contrary, they were emboldened and went wild.
They clearly escalated their attacks on us and the world, because of an absence of U.S. military and diplomatic resolve under Obama and Biden.
As compared with the 4 years of peace under Trump's first term, where they did not dare to launch any new aggression, on the U.S. or elsewhere in the world.
And we are seeing a similar pullback in Trump's second term. They were calling him a day after his victory on November 5h 2024 ! Immediately offering to a ceasefire and peace talks, Russia, China, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas. Because they knew it was going to get a lot worse for them if they didn't negotiate with Trump.

Under Barack Obama: The rise of ISIS across Syria and Iraq.
Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, the Houthis, Fatah, all escalating their attacks on Israel.
An outgoing Obama told Trump in Jan 2017 that North Korea was the greatest global threat at the time.

Under Donald Trump, 2017-2021 :
Trump made unprecedented peace with Kim Jong Un. Trump scaled back their aggression to zero during his first 4 years.
Trump conquered ISIS, faster than anyone said was possible. And put sanctions on Iran, Russia and China to starve them of the revenue to further start wars or fund terrorism.
The least miliary use of any president since Word War II.
Ending existing wars in Iraq/Syria, and preparing to withdraw from Afghanistan. Four years of no new wars, the first president to do so since Ronald Reagan. Peace through strength.

Under Joe Biden (or whoever was really in charge) :
Trump's organized withdrawal plan was screwed up by Biden, by Biden not enforcing the conditions of phased withdrawal, just withdrew in a sudden disorganized way, turning it into the worst U.S. military disaster since at least the Saigon withdrawal in April 1975. And arguably the worst U.S. military failure ever, as Biden left behind $85 billion in military equipment for the Taliban, the most high-tech of which was sold to the Russians and the Chinese to study and reverse-engineer, overnight losing the U.S. military its decades of technological battlefield superiority. FACT.
Biden lifted sanctions, giving Russia over $100 billion in oil revenue, to fully fund an all-out assault on Ukraine.
Biden also failed to enforce sanctions on Iran, and allowed them to again militarily build up Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Fatah and the Houthis, that culminated in Hamas' Oct 7th 2023 attack on Israel. That widened across Israel's other borders.
China flew a balloon over the entire U.S., that Biden never shot down, until AFTER it had photographed every U.S. nuclear military base, as it crossed the entire U.S., and Biden allowed it, never shot it down until after it completed its mission. China Joe.
And this further emboldened China to run dozens of air flights over Taiwan air space every day, in preparation for a near-future Taiwan invasion.

So... now Trump is shutting down all the things that almost 40 years of past presidents have put in place.
Instead, Trump is incentivizing return of jobs and factories to the United States, and rebuilding the U.S. military, re-establishing border security, and U.S. national security, as well as rebuilding the U.S. industrial base, energy independence, and national sovereignty.

Do you think, M E M, that ANY of this would be occurring if the Democrats or some RINO republican like Romney, Bush, or Nikki Haley were running the country?!?
HELL. NO.

Without Trump in office now, we would be heading for a collapse of the dollar, an endless war (if not global NUCLEAR war) in and over Ukraine, no end in sight to the war in and around Israel, Iran would be guaranteed nuclear weapons, and China would be headed for an invasion of Taiwan in 2027 or 2028.
And over the long term in the next 10 to 20 years, China would eventually own the United States.

China's Fentanyl war killing over 100,000 Americans a year would go on, unresisted.
Chinese further surveillance balloons, unresisted.
China's takeover of Panama, the Bahamas and Greenland, unresisted.
China's unfair trade practices would go on unresisted, manipulating their Chinese Yuan currency to lower cost of their goods, to push out competing businesses and nations.

China stealing technology and trade secrets from U.S. businesses, then manufacturing the exact same products they stole from U.S. companies, manufactured to steal the U.S. companies' market and business.
China's cyber-warfare theft of U.S. businesses estimated at $600 billion a year would go on unresisted. (And similar massive theft from every other industrialized nation.)

China's trade deficit with the U.S., approaching a further $1 trillion a year, would go on unresisted wihout Trump.
China's further espionage and agents in Democrat House and Senate offices (Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Dianne Feinsein, Eric Swallwell, THAT WE KNOW OF) and, very much suspected, the Biden White House, would go on unresisted.

Until China owns us, and there is no way we could at a later date even fight back.

Trump is the right president at the right time.

And if there is some short-term market instability, so be it. It has to be done.
There was also 2 months of stock market instability after the Nov 2000 Bush vs Gore election, because Gore prolonged it.

But eventually, the market stabilizes each time and regains any short-term losses.

You're just part of the Democrats' propaganda fear-porn machine, pretending this is anything but a short-term market correction, with nation-saving advantages.
All other countries have capitulated at this point to Trump's demands, and China will be the last to capitulate.
And China will HAVE to capitulate at some point, because they are far more dependent on selling their goods in the U.S., than we are on buying them.
There is less belief at his stage on Wall Street that it will even cause a minor recession (down to a projected 15% possibility now) and declining.
But whatever the amount of time till Trump completes his push for truly fair reciprocal trade with all the U.S.'s trading partners (after decades of multiple presidents letting them fleece us), it will pass. And the consensus is it will happen in a shorter time than anyone previously believed.

We’ve done trickle down economics as a nation for most of my life. It’s left us with a weaker middle class as more wealth is in fewer hands. To the point now we have someone like Musk buying power and influence right at the top. And the deficit keeps blowing up. At this point it’s obvious that republicans are trying to do massive cuts in Medicare and Medicaid. Even social security looks like it’s going to take a hit. All done while trying to get even more tax cuts for the wealthy. Trickle down economics have left us weaker and in even more debt. We are now a fading super power with Trump letting the world know we can’t be trusted any longer to lead.