RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events April 20th Martial law declared

Been seeing this pop up that Trump will declare martial law on the 20th. I hope it’s not true but I can totally see him doing it. He wanted to do it in his first term and was stopped by a military that wouldn’t give in to a wannabe dictator. He quickly got rid of those people this time and now it’s yes men loyal that are loyal to him before anything else. I know a fair amount of Trump voters that voted thinking about their 401k’s but can’t see them supporting that. It would be to late of course.

I don't know the specific words or incident you're referring to.

But often Trump says stuff at press conferences, just brainstorming random ideas to deal with problems that have festered for at least 16 years under Obama and Biden leadership, and in sanctuary cities, or cities like L.A. and San Francisco where crime is rampant because of ultra-lenient Democrat/Left orchestrated laws.
Such as allowing people to steal up to $1,000 worth of merchandise in retail stores without the slightest fear of criminal prosecution, to the point that in places like L.A. and San Francisco, many drug stores, supermarkets, restaurant chains and other businesses are closing their branch locations in and around those cities.



There are Constitutional laws against bringing the military into civilian-run U.S. cities, laws made to avoid rise of an authoritarian police state situation (as the British troops were, in pre-Revoluionary War-era times, where troops were even housed in colonials' homes, and colonials had no say or consent about it).

But there are exceptions where use of he military in cities is allowed , such as after a hurricane or other national disaster, where National Guard troops are deployed, to restore order.

And in May and June 2020, it sure would have been nice if Governor Tim Walz had deployed National Guard in Minneapolis IMMEDIATELY after the George Floyd death incident, to deter rioting and looting, instead of letting riots and looting run wild and escalate every night for a week, and then spread rioting and looting to a least 600 other cities nationwide in the summer of 2020.

Trump has not made the slightest plans or move to deploy the military in cities, he has just tossed out random ideas for consideration, to deal with major problems that preceded his inauguration.
And Trump is not the first to suggest using several thousand National Guard to assist Border Patrol in securing the southern border (Pat Buchanan suggested doing exactly this, in his 2001 and 2006 books). Although since Trump has already secured the border by an incredible 95% in less than 2 months, that appears unnecessary and unlikely at this point. And the border is not a civilian city, even if he did.

When Trump expresses random ideas like this in an off-the-cuff way in front of the press, with no serious intent to actually plan or do it, I think it is a head-fake move on his part, to make others nervous about what he MIGHT do, if he doesn't get cooperation on some other more pragmatic solutions he intended in the first place. Such as with the threat of tariffs right now on countries trading with the U.S., to get other nations to negotiate an alternative to tariffs, that at this exact moment has resulted over 70 nations capitulating to Trump's demands, and in re-aligning the world against China's unfair trade excesses.

But it does give the Democrat leadership and Democrat-Bolshevik liberal media the barest vapors on which to speculate and generate hysteria that Trump is somehow the re-incarnation of Hitler.

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Except that, y'know, Trump had FOUR WHOLE YEARS in his first term to be "Hitler" if he really wanted to.

And he never did.

Martial law might make it harder for democrats to go out vandalizing people's cars or shooting up car dealerships. Maybe it'll put a stop to the riots and violence that is just going to increase as the weather gets nicer.

Because the military wouldn’t back him. This time he replaced everyone that would honor their oath to toady yes men. You should do some more reading on what he tried to do in his first term and why it didn’t go far.

That's total horseshit.

You mean... he needed more guys like General Mike Millie, who would (in his own written words!) sell us out to the Chinese, and warn the Chinese if we were ever planning an attack on China, in response to China's endless provocations for such an attack?
We need more Pentagon leaders like THAT?

You're ridiculous.
And if you could provide "evidence" in a link that Trump was EVER planning some kind of a Hitler-like military takeover, you would have linked it here a long time ago.
You can't, because Trump never did.

Trump only ever explored his Constitutional and legal options to LEGALLY challenge a corrupt and rigged 2020 presidential election, no more than that.
By someone else, NOT Trump, it was proposed that Trump as president in Nov-Dec 2020 could have declared a national emergency because of the rigged election, and under a declared national emergency could have stayed in power and not allowed Biden to become president, at least until a full and fair review of election integrity of the 2020 election ballots could be done.
But again... Trump never exercised that option, and I see no evidence that he even considered it.

Meanwhile, I've already posted articles and Youtube videos of Democrat Jamie Raskin and others who plotted very lucidly to prevent Trump from being inaugurated in Jan 2025
under similar declarations to suspend the election result.
THEY eagerly plotted such a power grab. Trump did not.

Because they are the Democrat-Bolshevik party, and they urinate on the Constitution and Constitutional rights every day, and are dead serious about establishing socialist/communist authoritarian one-party rule over the United States.
They, the Democrats, for the last 9 years (since late 2016, beginning with prosecutions Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn) have waged lawfare and imprisonment of their political opponents. They, NOT Trump, routinely violently attack, loot, burn and intimidate their political opposition into silence. They, NOT Trump, fire-bomb churches, fire-bomb Republican campaign offices, fire-bomb Tesla auto dealerships, and burn random Tesla cars, to try and intimidate and silence all opposition.

And even further back:
Republican Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska
Karl Rove aide Scooter Libby in 2005 (who was proven innocent, by the way.).
Frank Vandersloot, who was audited by the Democrat-controlled IRS, for giving a $1 million check to the Mitt Romney campaign in 2012.
All examples of Democrat lawfare and weaponization of federal agencies, before we became aware under Trump it was even occurring.

And not just a few random Democrat crazies, in a recent poll, 48% of self-identified Democrat-Leftists say it would be justified to assassinate Elon Musk.
And a further 55% endorse assassinating President Trump
Perfectly okay !!
https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2...-support-killing-trump-and-musk-n4938661
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/survey-leftists-murder/2025/04/07/id/1205956/

Who are the Constitutional patriots defending the republic, M E M ?
And who are socialist/marxist mob, the tyrants, trying to crush and silence those defending the Constitutional republic, who just disagree with the "progressive" mob ?

That was a rhetorical question, M E M.
We all know the answer.

By the way... WHICH party was it that put up barbed wire around the Capitol in 2021, and brought in 20,000 armed National Guard soldiers, to intimidate away all political opposition?

Which president was inaugurated on Jan 20 2021, in a heavily armed and guarded ceremony, where only 1,000 people attended, with 20,000 armed guards over them, 20 guards for every person who attended?

WHICH party was it that used FBI in heavily armed 6 AM raids, to round up innocent people who almost all merely protested PEACEFULLY against an unfatr and rigged election, an elecion that was never even fully vetted for election integrity?
FBI bashing in doors, pointing AR-15 rifles with laser-dot sights, at people who were overwhelmingly not guilty of any violence, at most just "parading" or "trespassing" in or near the Capitol building?
Which party hid the evidence of these peoples' innocence, suppressed 40,000 hours of Capitol building security camera video from January 6th 2021, not released until well after the Nov 2022 mid-term election, and even long after the Jan 2023 seating of the Republican House majority? After which the surveillance video was revealed, and virtually all the Jan 6th prisoners were released, within a week, video proving they were not guilty of violence or vandalism. And meanwhile, over 4 years later, the dozens of undercover false-flag FBI and DHS agents who were THE REAL instigators of violence and vandalism themselves, have never even been identified.

Democrats' false-flag Capitol building attack with undercover FBI agents and fake political narrative is comparable to the 1933 burning of the Reichstag, that Hitler and the Nazis blamed on their opponents, but that Goering at parties openly boasted the Nazis did themselves.
Score another victory for the Democrat-Bolshevik party, they pulled it off as well or better than Hitler.
And over 4 years later, they have never been identified. These false-flag agents were never brought to justice for their crimes.

You know that someone is Jeffrey Clark and Trump wanted to elevate him for precisely being a loyal toady who would allow Trump to use the military against civilians to stay in power. This is why it’s pointless talking with you. You know Trump tried putting this guy in charge and why. This time Trump has installed people who will be loyal to him above all else.

And now Trump wants to ship citizens to El Salvador concentration camps.

I notice you're suddenly in love with that word "toady" and use it all the time now.
Not that it means anything or offends me, it's just utterly meaningless in the context that you use it.

A "toady" would be the equivalent of the Soviet/communist words Apparatchik or Samizdat, which are completely unqualified people who are appointed to high-level positions just because they are friends of high-level people, and/or because of their loyalty to the party above all other considerations. Loyal incompetents.



In the case of Trump and his officials, that is clearly not the case. Virtually everyone in Trump's cabinet and wider White House staff are highly accomplished individuals who have built their own businesses from the ground up themselves, with clear knowledge of economics, managing a budget, hiring and firing employees, and executive decisionmaking.
(As compared to the party loyalists, idealogues, and college professors, academics with little or no business or private-sector experience, appointed in the Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden administrations. )

Even on the lower level of Elon Musk's DOGE wing, many on the DOGE team are likewise business owners and self-made millionaires and innovators in their fields, and like those in Trump's cabinet, have temporarily set aside the ability to further develop their businesses, technological innovations and wealth instead choosing to serve and give back to their country, earning A FRACTION of what they made in the private sector, and in many cases working for free, donating their time without reward, to repair and rebuild the nation Obama, the Clintons, Biden and the Democrat-Bolsheviks have been destroying for 30-plus years.

And in rerospect, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush have proven themselves to also be part of that Deep-State / Uni-Party, if not outright moved into Democrat-Bolshevik clubhouse. They knew what the Democrats were doing for the last 33 years, and passively sat on their hands and let it happen.
And in the last 2 elections (2020 and 2024) the Bushes even aligned with the Democrat-Bolsheviks, attacking and undermining Trump, and all but openly endorsing the very Biden//Harris and Harris / Walz tickets that have been destroying the country.
As a result, I think the Bushes, Mitch McConnell, Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowsi, Liz Cheney and the other never-Trumpers have destroyed their own credibility, to ever again be taken seriously regarding direction of the Republican party going forward.
GONE. Irrelevant a this point.

Getting back to who is a "toady", your use of that term hilariously describes the incompetent apparatchiks in your own party. Appointed to high level positions ONLY for their party loyalty, or for racial / minority boxes their selection checks.
Over which anyone outside the Democrat-Bolshevik party is laughing hysterically every time they speak, at their utter incompetence, because WE ALL KNOW exactly what the ONLY reason is that they were put in those positions :

Debbie Wasserman BITCH-CUNT Schultz.
Donna Brazil
Pete "suppy chain cataclysm" Buttegeig. (And while food shortages and airline meltdowns were happening, he was on "maternity leave". FOR WHAT?!?)
Jenn 'Psucky" Psaki. (Utter failure and laughingstock White House spokesperson I )
Karine "sub-par" Jean-Pierre. ((Utter failure and laughingstock spokesperson Number II EVEN WORSE ! )
"Tampon" Tim Walz. (The guy who among other things, over several days when the 2020 George Floyd riots could have been stopped, let Minneapolis burn to the ground, thus emboldened the mob, and caused the riots to spread to 600 other cities nationwide.)
Kamala Harris. A woman utterly incapable of being commander-in-chief. Let alone finishing a sentence. A perfect Deep-state puppet.

Others, there are too many.

I don't even have to further explain any of those, their utter incompetence has been on display and widely reported for the last 5 years.

If they have an ounce of intelligence among them combined, they hide it well.
Or maybe what hidden intelligence they might have is buried beneath their blinders-on loyalty to an insane ideology that doesn't work in actual practice.

All your party has to persuade people to get aboard their crazy-train is delusional ideology.
And increasingly, to threaten and intimidate those who won't go along with it. Using storm-trooper Soros-funded groups like Gay-Trans activists, Antifa, BLM, the open borders movement.

And probably from the same pool of Democrat-Bolsheviks, the morons currently burning Tesla cars and dealerships, and burning Republican campaign offices in states nationwide.
Because hate-filled ideology, violence and intimidation are the only things they have left as a party at this point.
They're on the 20-side of every 80-20 issue.
And headed to go now from 20 to zero.

If they are in the U.S. illegally, and in particular are covered in gang tattoos, with a long arrest sheet of prior crimes, in both the U.S. and their native countries, fuck yes !!
Deport them to the only place where they won't harm innocent people, either in the U.S., or in El Salvador.

Regarding sub-contracting incarceration of U.S.-citizen gang members, I'm not sure that is legal, to deport them to E Salvador.
Despite that they are gang-tattood scum, they still have rights as citizens. And as long as they're in a U.S. federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison, I guess that's good enough.

But in many U.S. prisons, the gangs inside are the ones running the prisons, and inside can get access to drugs, to hookers, or even contract the murder of people outside, including prison guards. In that case, if Trump has lawyers who can arrange it legally, those guys belong in an El Salvador prison too, where they are truly prisoners, and not continuing to have the power to hurt and control people.

[ leftist/liberal propaganda ]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Clark

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Beyond liberal-owned propaganda Wikipedia-site, and Democrat-controlled federal institutions that maliciously prosecuted Jeffrey Clark just to further sell that narrative, and a 97% overwhelmingly Democrat DOJ who threatened to resign if Clark were hypothetically appointed to head the DOJ, I don't see that anyone who truly respects and upholds the Constitution and the rule of law had a problem with Clark.
Just the Deep State machine, and federal Democrat-Bolshevik operatives (FBI, DOJ, broader intelligence community, and Judges) who staged a coup against Trump for the last 9 years, even while Trump was the elected president in his first term.

As I've cited before, one of the co-creators of Wikipedia has repeatedly stated that Wikipedia has devolved into nothing more than a liberal/Left propaganda spin site.
And this above link is a prime example.
Likewise Factcheck, Politifact, Snopes, New York Times, Washington Post, Poliico, AP, NPR, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, on down.


The people saying it was "PROVEN false claims" that the 2020 election was rigged, NEVER investigated, REFUSED to look at the evidence at FBI or DOJ, refused to hear the evidence of 2020 election fraud in the courts, including even in the U.S. Supreme Court.

And I think John Roberts, Amy Coney-Barrett, and Neil Gorsuch have veered left in recent rulings, due to the years-long 24 hour Democrat-Bolshevik protest vigils right outside their homes, and due to multiple assassination attempts on U S S C justices. These justices are afraid, and would at this point rather be popular in Washington DC, be invited to all the best DC parties, and have the best seats in DC restaurants, than challenge the Democrat-Bolshevik mob just outside who threaten them,

But Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito have repeatedly made statements of their willingness to do what's right and truly Constitutional, and of their disappointment with the ruling decisions of other justices on the Court.

The Supreme Court has given Trump enough wins where it’s just dumb trying to spin them as being too scared to do their jobs. And just the other day gop senator Lisa Murkowski spoke about it being the gop being afraid of Trump. Trump lost the 2020 and his lies couldn’t stand up in court. For someone who goes after the law enforcement that got the shit beat out of them and hail the violent Jan 6 protesters as victims I don’t expect you to be fair. Just a waste of time and warning of how warped extreme partisanship can bend decency and justice.