Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Originally Posted by Wonder Boy


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President Donald Trump, a little more than 100 days after taking the oath of office, questioned whether he had a duty to uphold the Constitution and the Fifth Amendment right to due process as he expressed frustration on judicial pushback to his mass deportation effort.

During a wide-ranging interview with NBC News "Meet the Press" moderator Kristen Welker, Trump was asked if he agreed with Secretary of State Marco Rubio that citizens and noncitizens alike are entitled to due process.

"I don't know," Trump responded. "I'm not a lawyer. I don't know."

Welker noted that the Fifth Amendment, which states in part that "no person" shall be "deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law," says as much.

"I don't know," Trump repeated. "It seems it might say that, but if you're talking about that, then we'd have to have a million or 2 million or 3 million trials. We have thousands of people that are some murders and some drug dealers and some of the worst people on earth, some of the worst most dangerous people on earth, and I was elected to get them the hell out of here and the courts are holding me from doing it."


Asked a final time if, as president, he needed to uphold the Constitution, [clear ABC News spin: } Trump again deflected.

"I don't know. I have to respond by saying, again, I have brilliant lawyers that work for me, and they are obviously going to follow what the Supreme Court said," in what's become a new standard answer in interviews when confronted with similar questions about what the law requires him to do.

Legal experts told ABC News that the Fifth Amendment does not make any distinction between citizens and noncitizens. The Supreme Court has held that illegal immigrants are afforded due process rights under the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.

So Trump said he's not a Consttitutional scholar, that he's going to follow the law,.
That since he himself is not an expert on Constitutional law, he has many lawyers under him who are Constitutional law scholars, o advise him how to best address he issues raised and comply with Constitutional law and with Supreme Court rulings.
That he was elected with a mandate to deport the 20 million illegals who had contempt for out law entering, BUT ARE EXPECTED TO HAVE FULL CONSTITUIONAL PROTECTIONS AND TRIALS, DESPITE THAT THESE ILLEGALS NEVER HAD ANY RESPECT FOR THE CONSTITUTION IN THE YEARS THEY WERE ILLEGALLY HERE COMMITTING CRIMES AND PREYING ON AMERICAN CITIZENS, MANY OF THEM REPEATEDLY ILLEGALLY RE-ENTERING THE COUNTRY EVEN AFTER ALREADY BEING LEGALLY DEPORTED PREVIOUSLY.

In the case example of Kilmar Obrega Garcia, he was 1) pulled over in Tennessee by police, pulled over with 8 illegals over-packed in the car, and police determined he was human trafficking, Garcia was carrying $1500.00 in cash for payment to traffick them, he was driving in a car licensed to another known human trafficker.
2) In anoher incident Garcia, adorned in gang clothing and gang tattoos, was arrested by Maryland police in the company of multiple other known MS -13 gang members.
3) A judge later determined he was an MS-13 gang member.
4) And an appeals judge also ruled he was a gang member.

And yet you (and the oh-so-neutral objective reporters a ABC News, see all this and say Donald Trump is a threat to democracy and didn't give this guy his 5th Amendment rights (which by he way, he never respected during all the years he was in this country illegally.)

Forgive me, but that makes absolutely no sense.

Trump is a threat to democracy. The Supreme Court weighed in here and said the administration needs to facilitate Garcia’s return. Instead of complying, Trump has tried pushing a photoshopped image with gang tattoos as real, stated he could return Garcia if he wanted to, and now pretends to not understand the clear meaning of the Constitution. Constitutional rights are not dependent on if Trump decides they’re inconvenient. Yet here he is doing exactly that.


Garcia clearly is an MS-13 gang member, and there is NO WAY you can rationalize away the evidence I cited, you can only try to deceitfully front a carefully worded LOOPHOLE around the facts I cited.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia is CLEARLY an MS-13 gang member, and an El Salvadoran citizen with no legal status or right to be in the United States.
Garcia has repeatedly been stopped and arrested committing gang crimes, in the company of other MS-13 gang members, wearing gang tattoos and gang clothing, and been previously deported as an illegal gang member, before illegally re-entering the U.S. again.
And Garcia has already been evaluated by a judge, and then an appellate judge, as a non-citizen El Salvadoran gang member to be deported.
He has no right to further U.S. legal process or protection.

The photos of Abrego Garcia's gang tattoos are not "photo-shopped", that's just another Democrat false narrative. Garcia's girlfriend in her social media posts photo-shopped TO TRY AND COVER UP his ACTUAL gang tattoos.
Garcia on his knuckles has 4 gang symbols for the characters M, S, 1, 3.
And while Trump seemed to think it literally said MS-13, and not symbols that spelled out the same thing, the tattoos on his 4 knuckles DO spell out MS-13 in coded letters familiar to any gang member, or to any police invesigator familiar with gangs.

The ruling to not deport Garcia was because when that ruling was made in 2019, Abrego Garcia appealed deportation to El Salvador at that time, despite being a criminal and guilty, because he alleged at the ttime a rival gang in El Salvador would kill him (which was in itself an admission that he was a member of MS-13).
But 6 years later, the other gang no longer exists, so that humanitarian reason for not reporting him as a gang member no longer is valid. He is a cittizen of El Savador.

But if honoring that technicality from 2019 (over a rival gang threat that no longer exists) , Abrego-Garcia could still be deported to any other country in the world.
If Trump were to get Garcia released from his current El Salvador prison (where he belongs) Trump could extradict Garcia back to the U.S., and then immediately deport Garcia to any other country.
But Trump cannot extradict him unless the president of El Salvador were to release Garcia, and he won't.



Trump is not a "threat to Democracy", THE DEMOCRAT-BOLSHEVIK PARTY is a threat to democracy. Democrats are trying to establish authoritarian marxist/socialist one-party rule over the United States, and as abundantly demonstrated, the Democrats control federal agencies and maliciously use federal agencies to harass, arrest, prosecute and jail their political opponents.
And the Democrat party uses Anttifa and BLM to further intimidate and silence their political opposition.
With a 97% Democrat FBI and DOJ that will not prosecute them, that just emboldens BLM/Antifa and other Democrat/Leftist radicals to further acts of intimidation and violence.

Your Democrat-Bolshevik party let in at least 20 million illegals in the last 4 years, with NO vetting, NO criminal background check, NO screening for disease.
And now you say that these 20 million, admitted through NO legal process or respect for our laws.... are allowed to stay in the U.S. with the protection of laws they clearly have no regard for?!?
NO.
Deport them immediately, as quickly as possible. That is the mandate Trump was elected on.
And anything alleged beyond that is just smoke and mirrors by a deep state trying to obstruct Trump's clear mandate, and throw a lifeline to the Democrat-Bolshevik party's controlled demolition of the United States. .