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So the economy isn’t booming under Trump going by the numbers but his solution to fire the messenger while not surprising leaves the country in even worse shape. Who can trust this government for reliable information for anything at this point?


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M E M, you apparently missed how, over at least the last year under Biden, the monthly statistics vastly OVER-reported the number of jobs created.
And after those numbers were given headlines for weeks, they would a few weeks later release a "correction" showing that the actual numbers were tens of thousands of jobs less than was first reported. Not once, but many times.

Then, after Trump was inaugurated a second time in January this year, the opposite began happening, the new monthly reports would vastly under-report the number of jobs created, and in a later correction, release the higher numbers when it was far less visible in the news. Deliberately undermining the Trump administration's achievements.


So fuck yes, she deserved to be fired.


https://dailycaller.com/2025/08/01/trump-erika-mcentarfer-july-jobs-report/

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politic...rs-biggest-miscalculations-over-50-years

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Not if you understand how these reports are done. Or for liars who do understand but have no ethics and pretend they don’t. Basically she was given all the numbers from many different parties and put them all together in a report. She had no way of fudging the numbers. The pos who was outraged that he couldn’t just add imaginary square footage to his properties legally, fired her without backing up his oh so predictable accusation. Now investors can look forward to much better fake numbers I’m sure.


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So... the Bureau of Labor Statistics DIDN'T overstate the monthly new jobs numbers under Biden every month, and then a few weeks later revise to show the actual numbers, that were in fact lower than erroneously reported the first time?
Consistently, month after month? (To help the Democrats win.)

And then after Trump was inaugurated, he same Bureau Labor Statistics monthly reports did he opposite? Would erroneously announce lower lobs created when initially reported?
And hen a few weeks later report the actual significantly higher numbers? (To falsely use her BLS jobs statistics, to hurt Trump politically.)

Because that's exactly what happened.

Isn't it interesting how she made consistent errors in Biden's favor BEFORE the 2024 election, and then made consistent massive errors doing the exact opposite after Trump was inaugurated, that downplayed Trump's gains in jobs growth?
ISN'T THAT INTERESTING.

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Trump lied

Right before the election the numbers were revised down and then back up after Trump won…
“ A month before the election, the BLS jobs announcement, on Oct. 4, showed growth of 254,000 jobs for September. But “days before the election,” as Trump put it, the BLS announcement on Nov. 1 showed weak growth of 12,000 jobs in October.

The press release noted that strike activity had led to a loss of jobs, and hurricanes that hit the country also may have had an effect on estimates in some industries. BLS also said the August and September figures were revised downward by 112,000. A Fox News headline called the report “dismal” and said it “gives Trump last-minute political ammunition to fire at Harris.” The Trump campaign at the time said the jobs report was “a catastrophe” that showed how Harris “broke our economy.”

A month after the election, the October figure was revised upward.”

You voted for someone that lies and cheats on anything he can to enrich himself.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Trump lied

Right before the election the numbers were revised down and then back up after Trump won…
“ A month before the election, the BLS jobs announcement, on Oct. 4, showed growth of 254,000 jobs for September. But “days before the election,” as Trump put it, the BLS announcement on Nov. 1 showed weak growth of 12,000 jobs in October.

The press release noted that strike activity had led to a loss of jobs, and hurricanes that hit the country also may have had an effect on estimates in some industries. BLS also said the August and September figures were revised downward by 112,000. A Fox News headline called the report “dismal” and said it “gives Trump last-minute political ammunition to fire at Harris.” The Trump campaign at the time said the jobs report was “a catastrophe” that showed how Harris “broke our economy.”

A month after the election, the October figure was revised upward.”

You voted for someone that lies and cheats on anything he can to enrich himself.

That is what your unhinged hatred predetermines you to believe.

It must really mess with your reality that President Trump gives away his presidential salary when it is paid out every quarter.
(I've posted the quarterly donations from his first term each quarter, usually to military veteran organizations. And now he is going to spend something like 100 million dollars of his own money to add a new and larger ballroom to the presidential White House, that will be for use by future presidents, and that will only be completed about the time he leaves office. HIS OWN MONEY, and NOT with taxpayer dollars. Wow, what a greedy self-enriching guy.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles...IcIXKCAwM50aKSB9PnLklT-Y3EGTjk8Hu6wCmqWc

I also posted a topic a while back citing Trump's random and undisclosed acts of generosity.
https://www.rkmbs.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1239061

It's like a scene out of Mean Girls, the way you and other Democras try to maliciously slander Trump to be something YOU KNOW he is not. Democrats LOVED Donald Trump for decades, right up until the day he announced in 2015 he was running for president. And then you flipped, based on nothing, and began portraying him as the ultimate evil.

The same as your party did to George W. Bush. (who I'm frankly not a particular fan of, but still better than Gore would have been.)

Same with John McCain (Democrats LOVED McCain, then the moment he was the Republican nominee, your side flipped in a second and pushed he narrative of "racist, blue blood, warmonger, out of touch..."

Same with Mit Romney. Democrats loved him as governor of Massachusetts, he created the template for Obamacare in Massachusetts, but as soon as he became the Republican nominee, Democrats again slandered him as the ultimate evil. "Racist, white supremacist, blue blood, out of touch, etc."

And now we're up to Trump, who was also loved for decades, even by Democrats, until it became expedient for Democrats to hate him.

And whoever the next Republican is, you'll hate him and portray him as the ultimate evil too.
BASED ON NOTHING.



Just unhinged hate, that's all.

You should hate Joe Biden and Barack Obama, and the people in the shadows behind them. Because they are Marxist / Globalists who truly hate this country, have damaged iits Constittutional freedoms, is economy, its sovereignty, and make clear in their speeches, interviews and writings that they want to create a marxist authoritarian one-party system, where dissentting thought is not allowed, that they will crush, just as they did Trump officials in the last 8 years through a weaponized DOJ and FBI. As they also did with innocent Jan 6th prisoners, as they did with pro-life activists, as they did with parents who spoke up at PTA meetings, all subject to 6 AM armed FBI raids, arrest, unlawful and indefinite imprisonment, and expensive FBI trials for manufacured fake crimes ($400,000 to 750,000 each) designed to further crush their spirit.

Who are the patriots, M E M?
Who are the tyrants who hate this country and its people, and want to destroy it and re-populate it with obedient drones?

That has been true, from Clintons, to the Obamas, to the Bidens, to the maniacs running the Democrat party now. And their rhetoric doesn't even try to hide it at this point.
They are lunatics. They are deceittful and evil.
But yeah, it's Trump who is evil and greedy, right? rolleyes



I linked some of the many more sources that report this Bureau of Labor Statistics lady was exaggerating the monthly new jobs numbers BEFORE the election (done to help the Democrats).
And doing the exact opposite, downplaying the numbers AFTER the election. (To hurt Trump.)
The same as Democrat agents did in the Obama and Biden White Houses, the IRS, ATF, FBI, DOJ, PTA, CIA and other federal agencies. Both inside and outside of government, they are the Democrat-Bolshevik party.

And "Factheck" is a far-left-owned political spin site for the Democrat/Left.
We've been over this about a billion times. Factcheck, Poliifact, Snopes, are all liberal spin sites, that hide under an illusion of detached fact-checking and objectivity, but are anything but. They are liberal spin sites, OWNED and run by well-known liberal papers such as the Washington Post (Factcheck) and Poliifact (Tampa Bay Times).
They are not objective or neutral.
Any more than the Southern Poverty Law Center and Newsguard are objective

They are all liberal propaganda sites, and I've cited many examples in the past to prove that.

In an example of "factchecking" Trump in his first term, Trump cited the dramatic rise in rapes and violent crime in Scandanavian countries that began its spike with muslim immigration to Norway and Sweden, where Trump was proven elsewhere to be 100% correct in what he said
But Factcheck and Poliifact found a skewed way to allege that Trump's remarks were only "partly true".
No, he was 100% correct in his statement, and they just struggled to manufacture a context to diminish that.

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The November 1st revision did happen and it’s pretty easy to verify WB. Trump and his campaign liked that revision and used those numbers against Harris at the time. Also the upward revision after the election did indeed happen. These were both reported on at the time. So attacking the source doesn’t work here WB. Trump is once again lying.


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M E M, I don't see that you've posted any sourced facts to dispute what I've already said.

Trump has kept his campaign promises more than any other president in the last century, if not ever.
Trump has righted the ship and stilled the chaos created by the Democrat-Bolsheviks over the last 4 years. And incredibly, done so in less than 6 months after inauguration.
Your "Trump is lying" slogan is just yet another hollow false narrative.

It is a FACT that Bureau of Labor Statistics monthly numbers have been consistently wrong for at least the last two years.

And it manifests at least the possibility that a Democrat appointee has tainted that office's reported numbers for ulterior reasons.
The same way Obama and Biden have visibly hijacked and politicized/weaponized the IRS, DOJ, FBI, ATF, CIA and other federal agencies with Democrat-appointed agency heads for roughly the last 16 years, like has never previously been done in U.S. history.

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The linked article directly refutes what Trump was saying. Trump likewise hasn’t provided any evidence that wasn’t a verifiable lie. What do you find confusing?


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October numbers were revised down right before the election and Trump liked those numbers. Then those October numbers were revised back up after the election. Those revisions helped Trump.

Are you wanting fake good numbers maybe from some Jan 6 loser or perhaps a sex offender? Actually there’s a lot of crossover with the Trump folk so you could get both.


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This is all politics over a bullshit number, guys.

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Economist Steve Moore: Trump right to fire BLS chief, her numbers off by 1.5 million jobs

  • The Biden administration vastly overestimated job growth during its final two years, pro-Trump economist Steve Moore said in a brief presentation from the Oval Office Thursday afternoon as he unveiled new unpublished Census Bureau data.

    Moore's findings come amid the backlash President Donald Trump is facing for firing the head of the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), a Biden-era appointee who he has claimed issued "rigged" jobs numbers during the Biden administration to help Democrats.
    "I was telling the president that he did the right thing calling for a new head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, because this shows that over the last two years of the Biden administration, the BLS overestimated job creation by 1.5 million jobs. Mr. President that's a gigantic error," Moore said Thursday afternoon in the Oval Office.

    Trump quipped in response that it "might not have been an error," noting it may have been due to incompetence instead.
    "If it was an error, that would be one thing," Trump added. "I don't think it's an error. I think they did it on purpose."

    Just days after announcing the decision to fire Erika McEntarfer, the president accused her of inflating job numbers to an "all-time high" ahead of the 2024 presidential election to help Democrats hold the White House.
    Trump also claimed that, after he won the election [in each BLS monthly jobs numbers release since Trump's inauguration in Jan 2025] , McEntarfer readjusted the numbers downward to make them look worse.
    Trump said the "miscalculations" were some of the most significant in more than 50 years.


    ...On Thursday, in addition to sharing how the Biden administration may have miscalculated job numbers during its final two years, Moore said the advanced look at Census data he had access to also showed that, from January through the end of June, the average median family income, when adjusted for inflation, was up $1,174.

    Moore also said he used the new data to compare family income numbers in the U.S. under Biden compared to the numbers during Trump's first term.

    "You can see that — by the way, these dotted lines here, Mr. President, that's COVID-19, so if it had not been for COVID these numbers would have been substantially better — but even taking that into account President Trump's last year, in 2020, we saw, a $6,400 real after-inflation gain in income for the average family," Moore touted Thursday.

    "And that compares with Joe Biden, which was a measly $551. So, Mr. President, you gained ten times more income for the average family than Joe Biden, and that's because of your policies."

    Fox News Digital reached out to BLS but did not receive an immediate reply.



Trump is attempting to fix the Bureau of Labor Statistics office [ BLS ] so that in the future BLS will post accurate monthly jobs numbers and not have to revise them quietly a few weeks later every month with the corrected accurate numbers (or even worse, what appears to be deliberately posting inaccurate numbers to help he Democrats and hurt he Republicans politically.)

The Democrat party (and their propagandist ideological brethren liberal media) are trying to front a false narrative that "Trump fired this lady just because he didn't like the numbers"
NO, Trump fired her because her numbers were consistently wrong, and by all appearances, DELIBERATELY wrong to benefit the Democrats and hurt Trump.
Trump is not looking for monthly numbers that are just propaganda numbers that help him politically, he is trying to change the way the BLS department operates, so that it simply reports accurate numbers every month in the future, and can be trusted by all sides to be fair and accurate.


And in addition to the other examples of Democrat-weaponized federal agencies I mentioned in the IRS, FBI, DOJ, ATF, CIA, NEA and others, it appears that the Federal Reserve Board is also a Democrat-weaponized agency, where no one can explain why Jerome Powell has not lowered interest rates, when Europe has done so 11 times in the recent past in response to improved economic conditions.

It is again a case of a Democrat official abusing his position to manipulate the data.
Powell lowered interest rates in 2024 to help Biden and Harris win the election, when there was no logical reason to warrant lowering interest rates at that time.

And now Jerome Powell as Federal Reserve Board chairman refusies to lower interest rates when the numbers are vastly improved under Trump, and it would make sense to lower rates..
Powell's actions refusing to do so is slowing down the economy by trillions in potential economic activity, keeping artificially high interest rates that are suppressing car purchases and loans, business loans, and millions of people who would normally sell their homes to purchase new ones, but won't, because they would lose their current interest rate, and have to purchase a new home at a far higher interest rate. If Powell did his job and lowered interest rates as economic conditions warrant, there would be a surge of new home sales, trillions of dollars in new economic activity.

And by all appearances and for no other visible economic reason, Democrat Jerome Powell is hurting millions of people by refusing to lower rates, just to spite Trump and hurt him politically.

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“We have access to some data that no one else does on what has happened month by month with median household income,” said Moore, who claimed the data he presented was based on “unpublished” data from the Census Bureau.
So nobody can actually verify his numbers. And how does he have access to data no else does?
Moore btw is the coauthor of project 2025.


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Trump has now installed someone from project 2025 to get numbers he likes.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Trump has now installed someone from project 2025 to get numbers he likes.

Wow, I'm shocked. M E M doesn't like someone Trump selected as an appointee.
rolleyes

It's like one of those red-dot laser pointers. You point it at a cat, and the kitty just goes wild chasing it, every time.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-names-bls-head-firing-230236056.html

  • Washington — President Trump announced E.J. Antoni as his nominee to lead the Bureau of Labor Statistics on Monday, after he fired the former commissioner earlier this month, blaming her for a weaker-than-expected jobs report.

    Antoni is a fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation think tank, and he holds a doctorate in economics from Northern Illinois University. He's defended Mr. Trump's economic policy moves in the past, including the president's tariff strategy. He has also criticized the BLS for low response rates and questioned the agency's methodology, calling its health insurance figures "phoney baloney" last year and at one point joking that "the 'L' is silent" in BLS' name.

    "DOGE needs to take a chainsaw to the BLS...," he wrote in a November post on X.


    "There are better ways to collect, process, and disseminate data—that is the task for the next BLS commissioner, and only consistent delivery of accurate data in a timely manner will rebuild the trust that has been lost over the last several years," he wrote shortly after Mr. Trump fired the former BLS chief.

    Mr. Trump nominated Antoni in a Truth Social post, saying he "will ensure that the Numbers released are HONEST and ACCURATE."

    Antoni will need to be confirmed by the Senate. The Bureau of Labor Statistics is currently led by acting Commissioner William Watrowski, who has worked at the agency for decades.

    Mr. Trump ordered his administration to terminate Erika McEntarfer, who had been commissioner of labor statistics, on Aug. 1, hours after the release of the July jobs report data.
    That report showed a sharp slowdown in hiring, along with a steep downward revision to May and June's hiring numbers.

    Hours before her firing, Antoni criticized BLS for "data problems" and a trend of "highly problematic" revisions, though he also touted some figures in the July jobs report, including a jump in employment by native-born Americans and a slowdown in government jobs.

    In the wake of McEntarfer's firing, influential ex-Trump strategist Steve Bannon backed Antoni to take over the BLS.
    Antoni appeared on Bannon's show "War Room" on the day the jobs report came out, calling McEntarfer "incompetent." Days later, Bannon said "we're pushing" for Antoni to lead the BLS, and called him "the guy that almost single-handedly took it down by going through their numbers."

    Announcing McEntarfer's firing in a post on Truth Social, the president claimed — without evidence — that she had "faked the Jobs Numbers before the Election to try and boost Kamala's chances of Victory" and pledged to replace her "with someone much more competent and qualified."

    But Harvard economics professor Jason Furman, a head of the Council of Economic Advisers under former President Barack Obama, was sharply critical of the selection of Antoni, saying on X that, "I don't think I have ever publicly criticized any Presidential nominee before. But E.J. Antoni is completely unqualified to be BLS Commissioner. He is an extreme partisan and does not have any relevant expertise. He would be a break from decades of nonpartisan technocrats."


I recall Bill O'Reilly about 12 years ago had a show where he looked at his own Alma mater at the Harvard business school, and it had like 80-plus liberals and zero conservative professors at the school, and when he had one from the department interviewed on his show about the disparity, they got all defensive and had a hissy fit. O'Reilly answered that there was no diversity of though anymore at Harvard, and they couldn't be respected to discuss outside dissenting views if they couldn't even hear them at Harvard.

So this guy bashing Antoni just makes Antoni look like a better candidate.



  • Jessica Riedl, an economist at the conservative Manhattan Institute, said on X that she's "never met EJ Antoni because he is not seen in many DC policy circles. However, the articles and tweets I've seen him publish are probably the most error-filled of any think tank economist right now. I hope we see better at BLS."

    The jobs report for October 2024, which was released on Nov. 1, 2024, four days before Election Day, showed just 12,000 jobs were created — far short of the 100,000 forecast for the month — following two hurricanes and a major labor dispute. The following month, that figure was revised upward, to 36,000. September's jobs report, however, dramatically exceeded forecasts — 254,000 jobs were created, rather than the 140,000 economic analysts had expected. That figure was later revised down to 223,000.

    Mr. Trump continued railing against the ousted commissioner and the BLS more broadly in the days after he fired her, claiming in a post on Truth Social last week that the July jobs report had been "RIGGED," though he provided no evidence to support it. The president said on CNBC's "Squawk Box" Tuesday that it's a "highly political situation."

    And National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett defended the president's decision in an appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press," citing a series of revisions and patterns that "could make people wonder."
    "What we need is a fresh set of eyes over at the BLS," Hassett said, adding that "the president wants his own people there so that when we see the numbers they're more transparent and more reliable."

    McEntarfer had been commissioner for a little over a year and a half, after she was confirmed in a broad bipartisan vote of 86 to 8 by the Senate in January 2024.

    The latest jobs report showed employers in July adding a weaker-than-expected 73,000 jobs, with a downward revision of 258,000 fewer jobs created in May and June. Mr. Trump, who often touts the job numbers, called the jobs figures a "shock" and the revision a "major mistake." The BLS said in its report that monthly revisions "result from additional reports received from businesses and government agencies since the last published estimates and from the recalculation of seasonal factors."

    U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer acknowledged in an interview for "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan" earlier this month that "there are always revisions," but he added that "sometimes you see these revisions go in really extreme ways."

    "The president is the president. He can choose who works in the executive branch," Greer said.

    Meanwhile, some economists and lawmakers have expressed concern over the firing, and a group of former BLS leaders warned that the move "undermines the valuable work and dedication of BLS staff" and "escalates the President's unprecedented attacks on the independence and integrity of the federal statistical system." The group called on Congress to investigate the firing.


I quoted the whole thing, since I've seen very little about Antoni. Some praise, some criticism. But on a Trump nominee, I expect the media to be critical and distrustful of aanyone he picks, as a kneejerk reflex.

Whereas if it were a Clinton, Obama or Biden pick, they'd have nothing but praise. "Oh great pick, brilliant choice, excellent nominee."
And between the lines, He's one of us.


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And here's a Fox Business News perspective of Antoni and events leading up to his nomination.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politic...nthly-jobs-report-over-accuracy-concerns

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So in review, convicted felon fires someone when the job numbers are not the numbers he likes with accusations of her of making them bad. He replaces with someone that is a highly partisan Trumper and inexperienced. Would I have a problem if a democrat president had tried doing something like this? Yep.

And people know when the economy isn’t going well so fake numbers won’t help Trump.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
So in review, convicted felon fires someone when the job numbers are not the numbers he likes with accusations of her of making them bad. He replaces with someone that is a highly partisan Trumper and inexperienced. Would I have a problem if a democrat president had tried doing something like this? Yep.

And people know when the economy isn’t going well so fake numbers won’t help Trump.

As I've cied in detail, multiple high-level economists have FACTUALLY made the argument that former BLS staistician McEntarfer was consistently wrong and was way off on the monthly jobs statistics over her almost two years in the posiion.
And that's not even going into similar manipulations of the monthly numbers when Barack Obama was president, by BLS.


If you bothered to read BOTH articles I took the time to post, both cite a number of economists and high-level economic experts, in both articles some are critical of Trump for firing McEntarfer, others praising the decision
The first from liberal-media Yahoo is more one-sidedly against Antoni being hired for BLS, but others praised firing McEntarfer as a good decision by Trump, and the need to shake things up in a monthly reporting system that for many years is consistently at least 50% innaccurate. Whether by simple incompetence, or by deliberate Democrat-weaponized design to help Democrats and hurt Republicans. The numbers are consistently off by as much as 50%.
Steve Moore (linked above, who is himself a potential replacement for Jerome Powell to head the Federal Reserve) made a strong case for firing McEntarfer.

And others have praised Antoni as a well-selected replacement, new blood, who will change BLS data-gathering methods to be more accurate when first reported every month, so there aren't dramatic revisions needed every month just 2 or 3 weeks later. Antoni wants to improve and modernize source-gathering, to get it right the first time. The opposite of just giving Trump favorable numbers every month, as you baselessly allege. That's the Democrat-Bolshevik way, not the Trump way.

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What you’re calling mistakes are actually revisions that occur as new data comes in. I cited how Trump lied about the revisions before the election. He made accusations without providing any evidence. Trump won’t tolerate real bad numbers so now he’s got a partisan that I’m sure will deliver fake ones that nobody will take seriously.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
What you’re calling mistakes are actually revisions that occur as new data comes in. I cited how Trump lied about the revisions before the election. He made accusations without providing any evidence. Trump won’t tolerate real bad numbers so now he’s got a partisan that I’m sure will deliver fake ones that nobody will take seriously.

They're revisions that shouldn't have to be made, if the data were collected correctly in the first place. Multiple economists said this in the above two articles I posted. What Antoni brings to BLS is an intention and prioity to improve how BLS collects these monthly statistics from businesses.
And economist Steve Moore and others cite that Trump didn't "lie", but that the statistics given were in fact wrong, in fact way off, and quite possibly off for a Democrat-partisan politically motivated reason, since the numbers consistently benefited Biden, and now consistently downplay Trump's OBVIOUS pro-business policies and growth. That McEntarfer's numbers consisently downplay, and then quiely report the correct numbers later, when the media is no longer covering them.

Just like how Jerome Powell refuses to lower interest rates, despite Europe looking at the improving economic numbers and lowering EU rates 8 times in the same period, while Jerome Powell just sits on his hands.

There's no evidence Trump "won't tolerate" bad numbers, he just wants undisputably ACCURATE numbers, that all sides can trust, whether they are good or bad for Trump himself. And what he saw in McEntarfer's consistently wrong numbers, is a scenario very much like that that of Jerome Powell.
And you have no basis beyond pure slander to say that Antoni will be " a partisan that I’m sure will deliver fake ones that nobody will take seriously."

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I already showed that the October numbers in 2024 was revised down right before the election that was helpful for Trump in November and then back up after the election. Trump hasn’t provided the evidence to back up his accusations. We got a charts showing what he wanted but apparently based on unpublished data that hasn’t been verified. Antoni is an extreme partisan, young and inexperienced. He’ll be a tool for his convicted felon. But fake numbers won’t save Trump because people know when their paying higher prices.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I already showed that the October numbers in 2024 was revised down right before the election that was helpful for Trump in November and then back up after the election. Trump hasn’t provided the evidence to back up his accusations. We got a charts showing what he wanted but apparently based on unpublished data that hasn’t been verified. Antoni is an extreme partisan, young and inexperienced. He’ll be a tool for his convicted felon. But fake numbers won’t save Trump because people know when their paying higher prices.

That's just a cluster of lies, that at many points doesn't even make sense.

Multiple economists said McEntarfer's numbers were consistently wrong. You gave some word-salad to allege that she was accurate. If her numbers had to repeatedly be corrected every month with updated corrected numbers, every month, for close to two years she ran he BLS ststs, her numbers are incorrect and not accurate. And Antoni was among her many critics, who regularly discussed developing more accurate ways to collect the monthly jobs numbers from businesses, so they don't have to be corrected every month. And maybe deliberately incorrect by McEntarfer, for political reasons.

As I quoted three times, economist Steve Moore DID back up his accusations that McEntarfer was consistently way off in her numbers.

Originally Posted by M E M
We got a charts showing what he wanted but apparently based on unpublished data that hasn’t been verified.

"We" don' know that Trump got a chart of what he wanted. That's just wild speculation made out of pure hatred of Trump, nothing else, no facts. Just mindlessly slandering a guy you don't like.

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Antoni is an extreme partisan, young and inexperienced. He’ll be a tool for his convicted felon.

Uh...

https://www.heritage.org/staff/ej-antoni-phd

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E.J. Antoni, PhD is the Chief Economist, and Richard Aster Fellow, in The Heritage Foundation’s Grover M. Hermann Center for the Federal Budget

His work has been featured with a variety of news outlets including Fox News and Fox Business, Wall Street Journal, Townhall, Bloomberg, Daily Caller, National Review, CNBC, Washington Times, Washington Examiner, Breitbart, The Federalist, and others. He is a daily guest on news and business television and regularly appears on many podcasts and radio programs, including the nationally syndicated VINCE Show, where he is the in-house economist.

Dr. Antoni’s work has been featured with numerous think tanks and institutes including Unleash Prosperity, where he is a senior fellow. He also frequently presents his research in testimony before the U.S. Congress and state legislatures. Previously, he was an economist at Texas Public Policy Foundation and has taught courses ranging from labor economics to money and banking. Antoni holds master’s and doctoral degrees in Economics and regularly speaks at colleges and financial institutions.

That's a rather large slice of business and financial print media and cable networks who interview Antoni daily for his financial insights, as well as a number of financial and political think tanks. I don't know what in there gives you the hatred to label him an "extreme partisan" (vs. just being a "conservative", which he is) and label him "inexperienced". There's a ton of experience listed above.

And that "tool for a convicted felon" whopper. (By he way, Trump isn't a convicted felon, he is a victim of the Democrat-Bolsheik deep state, who weaponized the DOJ to manufacture "novel" cases and crimes he was not guilty of, in a failed politically driven Democrat effort to prevent him from running for re-election in 2024, THE ONLY REASON he was indicted, with made up fake "novel cases" that no one before Trump or since will ever be prosecuted for.
To prosecute him, Democrats in the Biden DOJ illegally conspired to use 4 ultra-Left prosecutors, judge-shopped to get the Democrat-partisan judges they wanted on he cases, rigged the trials to be held in jury venues that were over 90% foaming-at-the-mouth Trump-hating Democrats. Some jurors of whom on CNN were openly gleeful at the prospect of convicting Trump, others who posted on social media in posts like "Trump has to be stopped" and other disqualifying venom about Trump and Republicans., and yet were left on the jury by a biased judge. Biased judges, biased prosecutors, biased jurors.

Alan Dershowitz said in his 60 years as an attorney, these cases were the most corrupt and obviously biased judicial trials he has ever witnessed, and that the few that were successful in getting a guilty verdict were so egregiously biased that the convictions will inevitably be overturned on appeal.


One case was a conviction for writing "legal expenses" on a check for... legal expenses... to pay back his attorney Michael Cohen for billed legal expenses !
WOW !!
That EVEN IF Trump had mislabeled the check (which he did not) the New York State penalty for that would have been a $200 fine.
But even that was not even prosecutable because the statute of limitations already ran out years ago.

So Biden's hit man lawyer Matthew Colangelo was brought in from DOJ to help he biased prosecutor find a way to manufacture a charge, and lo and behold, the one statute-expired misdemeanor was re-packages under a "novel" use of federal law, to become 34 federal charges. When it should have just been thrown out of court and dismissed. "Convicted felon", my ass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indictments_against_Donald_Trump

Originally Posted by M E M
But fake numbers won’t save Trump because people know when their paying higher prices.

What fake numbers? E.J. Anoni has only been nominated, he hasn't even been Senate-confirmed yet. Pure unhinged slander on your part.
And even if, hypothetically, Antoni were even willing to fake BLS reports, how would that "save Trump"?
Further, even though Antoni is a conservative, what makes you slanderously assume he would be willing to fake federal BLS reports just to appease Trump?
That's quite a massive growing snowball rolling down the mountain of wild aassumptions on your part.

See, THAT is he definition of projection.

Democrats are of a Bolshevik mentality, where they will do anything to advance the Democrat-Bolshevik party, as exemplified by Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Sally Yates, James Comey, John Brennan, and James Clapper in the Oval Office on January 5 2021, where they weaponized goverment and broke a bunch of federal laws, just to set up and frame Michael Flynn, so that he would not be able to remain the Director of National Intelligence and discover all the weaponization of federal intelligence agencies, FISA warrants, and unmasking the Obama team had been involved in for the prior 8 years.

Your side is willing to do all this evil stuff, so in your mind, you project on conservative Republicans that they would similarly do that kind of evil stuff to advance their party too. That the venal actions your party engages in so freely, you assume Republicans have the same reflex tendency to abuse power to get what they want, that YOUR side consciencelessly indulges in without a second thought.. That is [i]projecion[i]. Assuming others have the same sociopathic impulses that your side has.

Whereas conservatives actually believe in our Constitutional government and the rule of law. Instead of seeing it as something they can maliciously abuse to go after innocent people, just to gain or remain in power.

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It’s pretty easy to see the evil here WB. You’re not fooling anyone at this point and do enjoy your “let them eat cake “ moment. Trump has a history lying and fraud. This is just more of the same. He fired someone who delivered some bad news and wants a very partisan loyal to him. On this fake numbers are not going to save Trump in the midterms. People know when they are paying more for groceries and services. They know when jobs get harder to find. This is why Trump is asking Texas and other red states to gerrymander as much as they can for the midterms.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
It’s pretty easy to see the evil here WB. You’re not fooling anyone at this point and do enjoy your “let them eat cake “ moment. Trump has a history lying and fraud. This is just more of the same. He fired someone who delivered some bad news and wants a very partisan loyal to him. On this fake numbers are not going to save Trump in the midterms. People know when they are paying more for groceries and services. They know when jobs get harder to find. This is why Trump is asking Texas and other red states to gerrymander as much as they can for the midterms.

I've deconstructed your lying narrative every time, about 10 times over now, with the cited and sourced FACTS.
People nationwide know that there was a huge spike in inflation almost the moment Joe Biden was inaugurated in Jan 2021, and the price of everything went up AT LEAST 25% on everything.
Mortgage payments DOUBLED during Biden's presidency (or whoever in the shadows was actually running the country).
And even CNN is reporting that prices and inflation have actually decreased during only Trump's first 6 months. FACTS, vs. your lying rumors and innuendo.

You keep implying things, without any facts to back them up. Trump fired this McEntarfer woman because her cited numbers were incorrect EVERY MONTH for close to 2 years she was in the Bureau of Labor Statistics office. I've cited multiple experts in the economic field, in two articles


And before you slander Trump and her replacement E.J. Antoni, why don't you wait till he's actually confirmed, and has a few months of reported monthly jobs numbers, before you slander him for a job he hasn't even been officially hired for yet?


It's just like how your Democrat-Bolshevik party propagandizes (BOTH TIMES Trump was inaugurated) that Trump would cause the stock market to crash. And despite the sabotage by Robert Reich and others to generate fear in investors and create a self-fulfilling prophecy... it didn't happen.

Just like your side predicted Trump would cause multiple wars. And THAT didn't happen.
Trump ended wars, and negotiated peace in multiple countries to prevent wars from occurring. Like no president in history has achieved.

Just like your Democrat-Bolshevik party, and George Orwell's liberal media propagandized that Trump and our military had failed to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities. And THAT lying narrative turned out to be completely false as well. Even the Iranian government was saying these bases were destroyed, but the Democrat party leadership and the Trump-hating liberal media STILL clung to the lying narrative they were NOT destroyed.

At every turn, your vicious Democrat-Bolshevik party is trying to sabotage the success of the country, and make terrible things happen, to hurt the American people and the world, just to undermine Trump.
Who is the proven EVIL side, M E M ?

Over and over, that proven evil is the Democrat-Bolshevik party.

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You tried and failed WB.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
You tried and failed WB.

No facts by you, no logical arguments, and yet ... you claim you somehow won the argument ?

Wishful thinking on your part.

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You rejected the facts and as always put your faith in the pos who added imaginary square footage to his property and got really angry that there were legal consequences for his fraud. He’s been steadily replacing people for partisan toadies. Sadly we all lose as he undermines confidence in the markets.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
You rejected the facts and as always put your faith in the pos who added imaginary square footage to his property and got really angry that there were legal consequences for his fraud. He’s been steadily replacing people for partisan toadies. Sadly we all lose as he undermines confidence in the markets.


I rejected your "facts" as the lies and distortions of the truth that they are. Multiple economists I cited and sourced were critical of McEntarfer and her consistently wrong BLS statistics.
ALL YOU HAVE is slander of Antoni, slandering him as a puppet who would willingly lie for Trump, based on no facts, before he is even confirmed.

And you only diminish your own credibility when you call the most accomplished president of this century a "POS" (piece of shit).
A prediden who pu himself at enormous legal and personal risk to be re-elected president and serve the country.
The "POS" who has donated every dime of his presidential salary back to veerans and oher charities.
The "POS" who has earned a Nobel Peace Prize 7 times over, for the 7 wars he has ended or prevented, in just his first 7 months.

I don't even know what you're ranting about with Trump "added imaginary square footage to his property and got really angry that there were legal consequences for his fraud."
You mean Mar A Lago, where a biased judge and a biased prosecutor alleged Mar A Lago is only worth 18 million dollars, when every property appraiser in the country, including Deutsche Bank's appraisers who gave Trump the loan in question, ALL assessed it a $ 1 billion?
The Democrqt-Bolsheviks rely on nothing but lies and false narratives to rationalize what they do. Whatever serves the revolution, right M E M?


Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley, the two most respected lawyers in the country, both say they've never seen bias in a courtroom like what was unleashed on Trump in these 4 DOJ-weaponized fake trials, and that it will all inevitably be overturned on appeal, because the bias is so egregious and obvious.
Further, in these cases it is THE DEMOCRAT PROSECUTERS who have been proven to be the ones guilty of EXACTLY the crimes that they manufactured fake accusaions of against Trump. They should be disbarred at the very least, and really, put in prison themselves for malicious prosecution and falsifying evidence against Trump.

Trump is not "steadily replacing people [with] partisan toadies", he is REMOVING the Democrat deep-state toadies left in the bureaucracy, who are undermining Trump doing the job HE WAS OVERWHELMINGLY ELECTED TO DO in a landslide election
It was Barack Obama and then Joe Biden who have politicized and weaponized federal agencies, Trump is not installing "partisan toadies" he is just removing the DEMOCRAT partisan toadies who have corrupted and undermined confidence in our federal institutions for roughly 20 years, including obstructing and undermining Trump during his first 2017-2021 term.
THAT is why these corrupt officials need to be removed. Trump is weeding out that corruption, and RESTORING public confidence in the rule of law.

And the Democrat corruption is obvious, to anyone but a lefist talking-points zealot like you. And the Democrat party machine, and George Orwell's Democrat-controlled biased liberal media are resisting it with he false narratives you buy into, kicking and screaming every step of the way.
But both political polls and the sharp decline in liberal media ratings show the poisonous dog food you're selling is just not being bought anymore.


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