You’re ignoring what I’ve actually posted about no political violence being acceptable WB. You have demonstrated that you are ok with political violence as long as you see a benefit to “ your side”. Someone on Jan 6 encouraging an angry mob to kill law enforcement is ok for a job at the DOJ. This individual has said that he felt killing those cops would have been justified. No way that is acceptable yet there he is safe in his job while others are fired for working on assignments they didn’t choose. Those that did actually assault law enforcement for Trump that day were let go by Trump. And when a prolife Trump supporter assassinated a democratic lawmaker and her husband, Trump tried blaming the democrat governor. Mike Lee made disgusting jokes. All ok in your book. You are not a victim but part of the problem.
Charlie Kirk didn’t certainly didn’t deserve to die but he made a living dividing this country with hate. At one point he called for patriots to bail out the guy who attacked Pelosi with a hammer. I know he was saying the attack was awful but at the same time he was using the attack to try to make some argument that because it was Pelosi, the attacker was being treated differently. And republicans such as yourself still joke about it. I believe you when you say you are angry enough to kill democrats but won’t. We are different that way. While I’m sad and disappointed in so many Trump supporters like yourself I’ve never been to the point of wishing death on you much less killing anyone. When Harris lost the election like many I was angry but there wasn’t an angry mob at the capitol for that Jan 6. Harris wasn’t trying to use lies and conspiracy stories to undo the election. And if she had tried there wouldn’t have been the support for it by liberals like myself because that would be wrong like it was when Trump tried staying in power. I fear Kirk’s assassination will be used by Trump to create more violence that benefits those in power. He already automatically blamed the left for it before anyone was caught. It’s an opportunity for him.
I did some of Kirk’s quotes because I think they speak for themselves. I don’t agree with either of them. We stand out from other countries because of gun deaths. It’s because we don’t have common sense gun control. This doesn’t happen in other countries like it does here but because we have insane rules on guns. Empathy according to Kirk was a woke term. It’s something sociopaths lack and I suppose if you see me as an enemy it’s something exploitable to use. I think empathy though makes people better. It leads to something better for all of us.
M E M, to put it as nicely as I can, you are deeply aligned with the Left and TEN YEARS of incendiary Democrat/Left rhetoric and calls for violence, that you have NEVER dissented from.
You almost daily for about 8 years call Donald Trump a "P O S", you demonize every last person who was present at the January 6th 2021 Capitol protests, ignoring all the evidence that they were set up and framed by at least 26 admitted Trump-hating false-flag undercover FBI (and many believe the number of FBI agents provocateur that day were acually "over 200"). And by at least 20 (hat DHS iself admitted to) false-flag DHS disguised as Trump supporters. And by at least 10 (that DC Metro admitted to) undercover DC Metro PD disguised as Trump supporters.
And by at least 20 Antifa SHOWN GLOATING IN THEIR OWN SOCIAL MEDIA VIDEOS, shown disguising themselves as Trump supporters and giggling about it, and gloating on video about tricking and framing Trump supporters for their own violence and vandalism.
And you ignore that with face recognition technology where they should at this point, and could over 4 years ago with face-recognition technology, been able to identify every person photographed in and around the Capitol that day, but there are a least 20 persons photographed that were never identified, that FBI actually took down their photos early on from their FBI tips website, because they don't want them identified, because these are the FBI's own false-flag agents, who worked to frame rump supporters and incite violence that day.
And despite all that false-flag set-up, Trump protesters were overwhelmingly peaceful that day, and the few incidents of violence that day, either false-flag FBI or false-flag Antifa, were at the center of every bad moment. Both FBI director Christopher Wray, and FBI deputy director of counter-intelligence Jill Sanborn both UNDER OATH in Senate hearings, refused to answer or deny that FBI agents were inciting and/or directly committing acts of violence that day. CASE CLOSED. FBI was orchestrating it, to frame Trump.
Capitol police that day, faced with a peaceful Trump crowd of tens of thousands just waving flags that didn't fit their desired narrative, fired concussion grenades and tear gas into the peaceful crowd over and over, to try and make them riot, to try and create an "insurrection" that didn't actually exist. And you try to twist a handful of incidents (I would argue all violence and vandalism on Jan 6th was externally incited by FBI and Antifa, not independenly haappening by Trump supporters), done by FBI and other non-Trump supporters to falsely portray the entire 100,000-plus ACTUAL Trump supporters as violent "insurrectionists".
You maliciously continue to prop up that false narrative, that was disproven 3 years ago. Such is your hatred for Trump and his supporters., and your eagerness to slander them as a whole, just to advance a Democrat false political narrative.
And with all that hatred of yours of the president you call "P O S" almost every day on these boards, for he last 8 years... We're supposed to believe that despite the absolute evil glee over Charlie Kirk's assassination by pretty much the entire Democrat / Left (see the above SkyNews clip documenting that glee and hate) ... that with your own expressed hate here of Trump and Charlie Kirk... you DON'T think Charlie Kirk deserved to die ? For more than 10 years, you agree with these Democrats, the Leftest of he Left, on every talking point., who say Charlie Kirk and Trump are pure hate, Hitler, and evil incarnate, but now on his ONE POINT after parroting their every talking point for over 10 years, you suddenly disagree and don't support Charlie Kirk's assassination, he guy you just described as "spreading hate" every day of his life.
That rather strains credibility.
Despite all this evidence, that I have been citing for OVER four years, M E M, you still act like every Trump supporter there on Jan 6 was an "insurrectionist" despite no guns, no bombs, no killings (except of 5 Trump supporters, even Brian Sicknick was a Trump supporter) . Despite overcharging of "trespassing" and "parading" to manufacture fake FBI federal charges to force 1,500 of them to sign false confessions or face years or even decades in prison if they didn't, for what should have just been a $300 fine each at most, and even that minor trespassing charge they were framed and entrapped into, by police or false-flag FBI removing the barricades, and even police opening wide the Capitol's double door enrances and inviting them inside.
You have absolutely no sympathy for Ashli Babbitt who was UNARMED and never seen committing any vandalism or violence, and as I've shown, was actually confronting the false-flag Trump supporters and trying TO STOP them from committing vandalism or violence. But you think she deserved to die. And you have no problem with Lt. Michael Byrd shooting dead this UNARMED girl, who when killed was shot through the glass panel of a locked door, absolutely not a threat to anyone. And Michael Byrd, who should be in prison for murder, was instead actually promoted to Captain by his corrupt department.
You've never voiced a single word of objection to the most incendiary calls for violence by every Democrat leader up and down the spectrum : Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Cory Booker, Ayanna Pressley, Ilhan Omar, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, Maxine Waters, on and on.
But you, who believe and support every word of your Democrat-Bolshevik party and its lying talking points and parrot them every day, at every turn... now say you" DON'T believe Charlie Kirk deserved to die." But in the second clause of that very same sentence, you say " but he made a living dividing this country with hate."
Firs of all, I don't think Kirk "made a living dividing the country with hate", he encouraged debate and dialogue to find common ground. As I've posted multiple clips of Charlie Kirk engaged in, on college campuses nationwide. He was so "filled with hate" that... he persuaded a 43% swing in voters under 30 in the 2024 election for Trump, that was previously about 18% Democrat-leaning, and swung that to a 21% margin in favor of Trump. Clearly a lot of them Democrats. Wow, what a hateful guy. If he were so full of hate, they would not have been reached and persuaded. I love the guy in the clip of one college crowd above, who Kirk asked if he changed his mind, and the guy said "Can I have a Trump hat?" That guy 10 minutes before was a Democrat.
Regarding this little piece of deception:
Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
You’re ignoring what I’ve actually posted about no political violence being acceptable WB.
No, your hypocrisy is clear. You don't support shooting of Charlie Kirk, but in 10 years of incendiary remarks by virtually every Democrat in Washington, you have NEVER condemned any of the calls for violence from virtually ALL the Democrat leaders, and I've quoted them or posted the Youtube video of them saying it MANY TIMES. You NEVER condemn it.
Quite the contrary, you cheer it on, and express the same rhetoric about Trump and Kirk, that incited his assassination. And almost Trump too. TWICE. And yet you still never condemn that rhetoric, and actually prop up those talking points.
You don't hear the same kind of calls for violence from Republicans, but you guys just falsely claim we are, without ever being able to quote an example. because it doesn't exist.
Originally Posted by M E M
You have demonstrated that you are ok with political violence as long as you see a benefit to “ your side”
That is absoluely not true.. PROVE THIS. You can't, because i's a slanderous lie.
Originally Posted by M E M
Someone on Jan 6 encouraging an angry mob to kill law enforcement is ok for a job at the DOJ. This individual has said that he felt killing those cops would have been justified. No way that is acceptable yet there he is safe in his job while others are fired for working on assignments they didn’t choose. Those that did actually assault law enforcement for Trump that day were let go by Trump. And when a prolife Trump supporter assassinated a democratic lawmaker and her husband, Trump tried blaming the democrat governor. Mike Lee made disgusting jokes. All ok in your book. You are not a victim but part of the problem.
That again is a lie, hat I have answered and de-constructed a dozen times.
Or maybe a job in the DOJ? Oh but that’s only for Trump supporters.
Jared Wise didn't kill any cops. (But as I detailed, Capitol police killed Ashli Babbitt that day, and possibly 3 others with repeated concussion grenades.) Jared Wise didn't assault any cops. And AS I SAID, he is a veteran law enforcement / FBI agent himself, who clearly has respect for police work, and takes offense to when police authority is abused. He is clearly not a guy who hates cops, like your typical leftist or Antifa or BLM protester. And if Jared Wise had committed any violence, particularly against police, Trump would not have pardoned him. As he did not others. So you're making up a false narrative.
The guy is a former FBI agent. And even before Trump pardoned him and 1,500 other PEACEFUL Jan 6th protesters, Jared Wise was only charged with 4 misdemeanors. Not any of the exaggerated B.S. you are pushing a false narrative about.
I would compare it to communist mayor candidate Mamdani videotaped screaming at Tom Homan for several minutes in a vigorous intimidating way, where Mamdani was right up against a police officer protecting Homan for several minutes, as if he was going to move past the officer and violently attack Homan. (and there have been many death threats and actual attempts on Homan's life.) I don't agree with Mamdani, I think he was a posturing jerk, but he likewise didn't break any laws, just talked trash and got in Homan's face. Although in Mamdani's case, he DID get in prolonged physical contact with the officer protecting Homan, which is technically assault on the officer. It was EXACTLY the context I said, Jared Wise was expressing outrage and scorn of Capitol police officers he felt were abusing their authority that day and using excessive force on Trump protesters, who were just exercising their First Amendment free speech rights, and right to peacefully assemble and petition their government, regarding a highly questionable and rigged Nov 2020 election, that Republican House and Senate members inside the Capitol were legally challenging in the lawful and Constitutionally proscribed manner.
It's also incredibly hypocritical for you to feign outrage about Trump allegedly not supporting police and the law, when it is in fact YOUR ENTIRE DEMOCRAT-BOLSHEVIK PARTY that constantly sides against police, for several YEARS (Democrat leaders doing so since May 2020-present, and STILL no condemnation by Democrats of the George Floyd BLM rioters, STILL no Democrat appreciation or voiced Democrat support of police). Democrats leaders as one in lock-step nationwide advocated "DE-FUND the police".
In THE LAST MONTH, Democrat leaders are openly cheering on doxing ICE agents and demanding they show their faces during arrests, that these Democrats know enables leftist nutjobs to attack ICE agents, AND their homes, AND their wives and children.
I've already cited Hakkim Jeffries and Karen Bass whose quotes can easily be pulled up, demanding ICE agents have to show their faces, even calling them cowards if they don't. And Ilhan Omar, and Rashida Tlaib, and A O-C, and Chuck Schumer, among many other law-enforcement hating fanatics in your party.
The BEST any in your piece-of-shit Democrat party do is just remain silent on the subject. THEY NEVER DEFEND POLICE, they only condemn Republicans for allegedly not obeying the law, when they can twist the slighest possible allegation in a Republican leader's history. As in the strained and narrow deceitful argument you keep repeating about Jared Wise.
You DON'T EVEN MENTION how the human excrement in your party BURNED DOWN AN ENTIRE POLICE STATION in Minneapolis at the start of the 2020 George Floyd riots. Before they went on to loot and burn 600 cities nationwide, to injure 2,000 police officers, and to kill 25 people.
To this day, NOT ONE person in your party defends police, or condemns these ACTUAL assaults on police officers, and ACTUAL nationwide insurrection.
And here's the lengthy exchange where we went back and forth on this at least a dozen times, and I cited and sourced exactly why you're dead wrong on the facts, and how you are just manufacturing fake propaganda :
