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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Bovineo is out, Homan is in. That’s the equivalent of changing your shirt after you shit your pants.

Tom Homan is a guy who was lionized by Democrats during the Barack Obama presidency for the excellent job he was doing deporting illegals. Now that Homan is doing he same job rounding up illegals, and not even yet in the same numbers, he is demonized by the Left and called a "Nazi / Fascist" for doing the exact same job.

But if a Democrat were president... perfectly okay!

Homan started as a Border Patrol agent and has been in border security since the early Reagan years, over 40 years. ONLY NOW do Democrats have a problem with him, because Dems have absoluely lost their minds. They "dox" and threaten Homan and other agents, threaten their homes, their wives, their families. They bite their fingers off. Homan has said he doesn't live wih his wife and family right now, for their safetty. The only thing different in the last 40 years is he's doing the eexact same job now for Trump, and only for that, the hero has been transformed by the Democratt-Left propaganda machine into a villain.

Even the fact that their rhetoric is resulting in ongoing attempts to kill Homan and other agents hasn't made Dems lower their rhetoric.
But then... a majority of these same maniacs want to kill President Trump and Elon Musk, and cheer creepily at the deaths of Charlie Kirk and other conservatives. Burning Teslas, burning cities, attacking even independent journalists who even question their narrative talking points.

https://thepostmillennial.com/55-of...ts-somewhat-justified-to-kill-trump-poll

https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-bomb...ure-spreading-left-under-president-trump

You're utterly immune to facts, and how deeply evil your party has become.
The same mindset as in Leninist/Stalinist Russia, in Maoist China, or Castro and Che Gueverra's Cuba. An angry murderous mob, out to slaughter anyone who disagrees with them. Spoon-fed Lefttist talking points, that they think rationalizes every crazy violent act they do.

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I might also add, you posted a "Letter from Pretti's parents".
As sourced and linked in my long post above about the Marxist/Communist communications machine that motivates thousands of Pretti's in cities across the U.S., and successfully got Pretti to martyr himself by fighing wih BP agents, while Pretti was armed with a handgun and 2 extra ammo clips (who goes to confront cops and "peacefully protest"... with a gun?)

That letter was written by a Communist front group, and has a very Communist/Red Army look in its original form (photo shown).

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/far-left-network-helped-put-alex-pretti-harms-way-made-him-martyr

It sounded like propaganda when I initially read what you copy-and-pasted. And it IS propaganda.

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Alex Pretti's parents speak after son's death, say they warned him not to engage with feds
"We had this discussion with him two weeks ago or so, you know, that go ahead and protest, but do not engage, do not do anything stupid, basically."

https://thepostmillennial.com/alex-...ay-they-told-him-not-to-engage-with-feds



Which he did anyway... and got killed.

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But he didn’t engage them. You can see on the video they attacked him. And then the Trump administration lied about it despite evidence to the contrary


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Bovineo is out, Homan is in. That’s the equivalent of changing your shirt after you shit your pants.

Orange pedo throws another loyalist under the bus.


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But standing by crusty gnome. Imagine what they lie about when there isn’t video! Some good news is it is getting some republicans speaking out.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
But he didn’t engage them. You can see on the video they attacked him. And then the Trump administration lied about it despite evidence to the contrary


That's a delusional interpretaion of what the video clearly shows. Pretti first brought a 9mm automatic with 2 extra clips of bullets, at least 30 rounds, loaded up for a conflict. It was also revealed today (by CNN) that Pretti the sainted pacifist, had a cracked rib from another conflict he was in with another ICE agent earlier in the week.
For a "peaceful guy who wouldn't hurt anybody", he sure gets in a lot of scraps, and all by aggressively pursuing ICE agents.

In the video you say "they attacked him".
NO, clearly not.

There was a woman protester who was getting in the face of a BP agent and wouldn't get away from him, and loudly blew a whistle right in the agent's ear. He could have arrested her, but just shoved her out of the way so he could do his job, and she fell to the ground.
That's when Pretti jumped in and began obsructing the BP agent. Then the agent pushed Pretti to the ground to arrest him, and other BP agents began grabbing at Pretti, Pretti he kept thrashing around and resisting arrest. And in the preliminary reports (still investigating) with Preti thrashing around, at some point his gun became visible and one agent yelled gun, and feeling endangered and needing to act, an agent drew his gun and fired at Pretti.

AGAIN, the terrorism expert I quoted above, who has worked for the military, local police, and several federal agencies, says that Pretti to even buy a gun had to go through mandatory training on what to do if armed and encountering a police officer. And that Pretti did the exact opposite of what he was trained to do. He put himself in that situation.

His parents told him 2 weeks ago not to engage agents, not to do "something stupid".
Against advice given just 2 weeks before he was shot, he ignored that advice, clashed with agents., and did something stupid. A whole series of stupid things. He came armed, he jumped between an agent and a female protester, already grabbing a BP agent, he further obstructed agents from doing their jobs, then he resisted arrest. If he'd just gone limp at some point, they would have just cuffed him, and he would not have been shot. And the combination of Pretti blocking officers, Pretti thrashing around resisting arrest, and Pretti having a concealed gun, got him killed.

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Watching the MAGA cult members wanting to disregard the 2nd Amendment is more hypocrisy.

Nothing sacred with those people, except blind loyalty to the orange pedo.


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I firmly believe in the 2nd Amendment, the right to own a gun and protect yourself.

But this was not self-protection, or compliance with gun-laws. Pretti ignored the mandatory concealed-carry training he received, on how to avoid a confrontation with police while carrying a firearm.
He did the exact opposite. ARMED, he picked a fight with police.
If he did the same thing in any other place with police present, like a shopping mall, or a school, or a church, or a gay night club, he would have similarly been fired upon.

"Right to bear arms" doesn't mean right to go armed into a potential riot situation, physically clash with cops, and make them think you're a Stoneman-Douglas high school type shooter, or a Uvalde type shooter, that they need to draw their guns on before they themselves are fired on by some unpredictable violent guy they don't know.


Gee, maybe they should have waited for Pretti to kill them first. I mean hey, the guy was only packing an extra 30 rounds. And had a scope on his pistol too. Who walks around with a laser-sight added on their pistol? I'd like to hear a plausible explanation for why he had a sight on his pistol and 30 rounds of ammunition, and why he was thrashing around WHILE ARMED and would not comply with BP officers, who would have only cuffed and arrested him if he'd complied.

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Alex Pretti was ‘known’ to feds, and had rib broken in anti-ICE protest a week before he was killed by Border Patrol

https://nypost.com/2026/01/27/us-ne...k-before-he-was-killed-by-border-patrol/


  • by Anthony Blair, NEW YORK POST, January 27 2026

    Alex Pretti was known to the feds and suffered a broken rib in a violent confrontation with agents a week before Border Patrol officers killed him in Minneapolis, according to a report.

    Pretti, an ICU nurse, told a pal he saw ICE agents chasing what he described as a family on foot, and stopped his car during the earlier incident around a week before he was shot last Saturday, CNN reported.

    He said he pulled over in his car and began shouting and blowing on a whistle, at which point he was tackled by five agents, the source said.


    Pretti claimed that one of the agents had left him with a broken rib after leaning on his back, the friend told CNN.

    “That day, he thought he was going to die,” the source said, adding that Pretti had been released by agents at the scene.

    Federal immigration officers had documented details about Pretti, along with other anti-ICE protesters in Minneapolis in recent weeks, CNN reported.

    A memo sent this month to agents dispatched to the city asked them to “capture all images, license plates, identifications, and general information on hotels, agitators, protestors, etc., so we can capture it all in one consolidated form,” the network reported.

    Although Pretti’s name was known to federal agents, according to the source, it isn’t known whether his information had been shared via the new intake form.

    It also isn’t clear whether Pretti recognized or was recognized by the federal agents he confronted in Minneapolis on Saturday.

    Video appears to show him being wrestled to the ground by agents before one of them removes Pretti’s gun from his waistband and another fatally shoots [him].

    The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has denied that the agency has a database of alleged domestic terrorists.

    “We do, of course, monitor and investigate and refer all threats, assaults and obstruction of our officers to the appropriate law enforcement,” DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin told CNN in relation to a separate incident involving a federal agent in Maine.
    FBI Director Kash Patel has also said that his agency is investigating encrypted group chats on the app Signal, which are reportedly used by activists to share information about ICE activities.

    Such groups “create a scenario that illegally entraps and puts law enforcement in harm’s way,” Director Patel warned during an appearance on a conservative podcast Monday.

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He didn't even brandish the gun, Dave.

The orange pedo said that the victim shouldn't even had a gun on him, so much for the 2nd Amendment.

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I think he’s made it clear that only certain people should have rights. Fortunately there seems to be enough republicans who understand that if they’re not for everyone that also endangers their rights. Trump wouldn’t have otherwise gotten rid of Bovino. It’s really just arranging the deck chairs on the titatanic though. It’s still the same rotten administration that was willing to try to label Goode and Pretti as terrorists.


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I Was A Combat Soldier In Iraq. Here's The 1 Question Everyone Should Be Asking About ICE Right Now.
"When armed agents operate beyond the reach of law, they are no longer public servants. They are something else entirely."
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Diana Oestreich
Jan 28, 2026, 11:36 AM EST
|Updated 9 hours ago
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We have to be clear about what we are witnessing from Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Minnesota.
As a combat soldier, I recognize a mission when I see one — not because it’s announced, but because it’s being carried out. In the span of weeks, ICE and Border Patrol operations in Minneapolis have resulted in the deaths of two Minnesotans. In over a year of combat in Iraq, my battalion of 500 soldiers did not kill a single person.
That difference matters.
My unit spent 397 days on the battlefield. We were shot at. We feared for our lives. Snipers fired from crowds. Improvised explosive devices lined the roads we were ordered to clear. And still, we did not return fire unless strict conditions were met: The shooter had to be clearly identified, civilians could not be in the line of fire, and lethal force had to be the last resort.


Why? Because that was not our mission.
Our mission was to build bases, secure supply routes, and protect civilian life. We were governed by Rules of Engagement, the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and the War Crimes Act. Violations were not brushed aside. Soldiers are criminally accountable when we break the law. That accountability is what separates professional soldiers from mercenaries.
This isn’t just my experience. It’s the standard.
This story is part of HuffPost’s commitment to fearlessly covering the Trump administration. You can support our work and protect the free press by contributing to our newsroom.
Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara stated publicly that, in 2025, the Minneapolis Police Department recovered roughly 900 guns from the street and arrested hundreds of violent offenders — and did not kill a single person.


Let that sit with you.
If the Minneapolis Police Department didn’t kill anyone in a year of active policing, and my combat unit didn’t kill anyone in over a year of war, Minnesotans — and all Americans — are right to ask why ICE and the Border Patrol have killed two people in my state in two weeks.
The answer is uncomfortable but unavoidable. Either this is their mission — or they are operating outside accountability.
Minnesota is demanding a full legal investigation into the killings of Renee Good and Alex Pretti, including allegations that lifesaving medical care was delayed or denied. Refusing transparency or investigation is not partisan disagreement. It is a constitutional failure.
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The author in Nasiriyah, Iraq, in 2003. "I was deployed with the Army's 724 Engineer Battalion in the preemptive strike/invasion of the Iraq war," she writes.
The author in Nasiriyah, Iraq, in 2003. "I was deployed with the Army's 724 Engineer Battalion in the preemptive strike/invasion of the Iraq war," she writes.COURTESY OF DIANA OESTREICH
When armed agents operate beyond the reach of law, they are no longer public servants. They are something else entirely.
Mercenaries are defined not only by who pays them but by what restrains them. Mercenaries answer to orders, not to law, ethics or public accountability. That is precisely why soldiers and law enforcement officers hold codes of conduct so fiercely. Without those codes, uniforms become disguises instead of safeguards.
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As a veteran, I refuse to accept mercenary behavior hiding behind federal badges on Minnesota soil. This is my home. Minnesota stands for liberty, justice and due process — not secrecy, immunity or violence without consequence.
Staff changes are not legal accountability. Silence is not justice. Justice delayed is justice denied.
Minnesotans are demanding a full, independent investigation under state law into the agents involved in these deaths. No one — federal or otherwise — is above the law of this land.
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If ICE and the Border Patrol cannot operate within the Constitution, with restraint, transparency and accountability, then they are not fit to carry out their mission in Minnesota — or anywhere else.
Because when force is untethered from law, our freedom is already in danger.
Diana Oestreich is a combat veteran, founder of The Waging Peace Project, and author of “Waging Peace: One Soldier’s Story of Putting Love First.” As an author, activist and soldier-turned-peacemaker, she’s a nationally recognized speaker at the intersection of justice, nonviolence, faith and how everyday peacemakers are challenging and changing our world.”


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“ Donald Trump’s administration is asking for permission to destroy evidence in its so-called investigation into the killing of Alex Pretti by Customs and Border Patrol agents.

The Trump administration filed a legal motion Monday opposing a federal judge’s order preventing it from tampering with evidence related to Pretti’s death, The New York Times reported. While it’s not uncommon for the Trump administration to oppose judges’ orders against it, this case seems particularly unnecessary—and suspicious.”

Not shocking and that’s sad in itself. How is this defensible?


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I think he’s made it clear that only certain people should have rights. Fortunately there seems to be enough republicans who understand that if they’re not for everyone that also endangers their rights. Trump wouldn’t have otherwise gotten rid of Bovino. It’s really just arranging the deck chairs on the titatanic though. It’s still the same rotten administration that was willing to try to label Goode and Pretti as terrorists.


That's puting A TON of words in my mouth that I never said (i.e., you're a liar. )

Everyone should have the same 2nd Amendment rights. In this case, what I ACTUALLY said is Alex Pretti abused the terms of concealed carry.

You have a right to carry, but there are RULES for concealed carry, and when you fight with cops while carrying a handgun, and you thrash around and make them think you are about to fire on them, they will open fire first, and they did. It increasingly looks like a justified shooting, in self-defense.
No normal person can watch the multiple videos of Pretti revealed so far, and seriously allege this guy was "peaceful" or non-threatening.

And everyone should have the same free speech rights. But free speech is the right to speak your opinion publicly.
It is NOT the right to intimidate into silence others who disagree with you, NOT the right to come to Conservative free speech events or churches and shout them down and silence them at their own event.
]I is NOT the right to use violence, or the threat of violence, to intimidate ICE and Border Patrol agents or other government officials, or intimidate judges, or conservative, moderates, or liberal citizens. That is NOT a right, or free speech, or Constitutional. that is Leninism/Stalinism or Maoism. Or Nazism. Mob rule. Your side calls Trump and ICE and Border Patrol "Nazis", but is it YOU,THE DEMOCRATS, who adopt Nazi tactics of militancy, violence, intimidation, and attempting to snuff out free speech of any who oppose or disagree with you.




The fat hispanic lady on CNN (I think her name is Anna Navarro) said of Alex Pretti "This is a guy where everything about him looks perfect, that any mother would want her daughter to date". No, he looks in the videos like an out of control rage-aholic.
I guess Anna wants her daughter in a relationship with a wife-beater.

On Laura Ingraham last night, she had a lawyer with some expertise on 2nd Amendment concealed-carry issues, and she asked the lawyer, "Should someone with a concealed carry license bring their gun to a protest?"

And the lawyer answered "Well, frankly, if I went to a protest, I probably would be carrying. But I wouldn't get in a physical confrontation with police."
The point being, if you are going to physically fight police, then you should leave your gun at home.




This Alex Pretti guy not only picked a fight with police and physically confronted them, spitting at them, screaming profanity and insults at them, kicking their vehicles and smashing the tali-light on their SUV, and in every way trying to provoke police to come after him.
A week or so after his earlier video-recorded clashes, Pretti on Sunday grabbed at Border Patrol agents when a BP agent pushed another aggressive female protester to the ground because she was blocking the agents from doing their job. And when Pretti jumped in to to clash with an agent, thrashing around as the agent, and more agents, tried to arrest him, eventually Pretti's weapon became visible, and given his aggressiveness, an agent yelled "Gun, gun", and fearing for their safety with a violent armed aggressor, an agent opened fire.

After 5 days now of new video evidence and details against Pretti coming out, it becomes increasingly clear this guy wasn't peaceful and non-threatening, he was out there multiple times (on video) doing his best to provoke a fight wih ICE and BP agents.
Even Preti's parents two weeks ago advised him NOT to do... exactly what he did. And combined with being very angry and aggressive toward Border Patrol and ICE, Pretti was carrying enough bullets for a prolonged firefight. Or to slaughter multiple agents.




Originally Posted by M E M
Fortunately there seems to be enough republicans who understand that if they’re not for everyone that also endangers their rights.

That's crap. These are pandering RINO Republicans, who are caving in to the radical Left, who are afraid to take a stand for their conservative voters, who specifically elected them to support Trump's policy, securing the border, and deporting illegals. Litterally, the number one issue in polls, in 2024, and now.

Sen. Tom Tillis and Sen. Susan Collins fail to see that caving in to the Left just projects weakness that will inevitably make the rioting and attacks spread to countless other cities.
These rioters who are harassing ICE and BP agents should be aggressively stopped and jailed, not caved in to.
Is it easier to deal with confrontations like this in Minneapolis? Or after it spreads to 100 more cities nationwide? The George Floyd effect. Any weakness or deference to the mob, just emboldens the mob.


Regarding Greg Bovino, he has for decades been an officer in charge of Border Patrol, and in the last few months was brought in to ICE operations in several cities like L.A., New Orleans and Minneapolis to assist in ICE operations o arres criminal illegals released in major cities. But Bovino is a senior officer in Border Patrol, at some point would be re-assigned back, and has simply been returned to Border Patrol. He hasnt't been demoted or fired, he's simply been returned to command his region in Border Patrol, rather than continue doing ICE work he was temporarily assigned to assist with.



What you refer to as the "same rotten administration", has secured the border in an incredible 6 months, and stopped the flow of 12 to 15 million completely unvetted illegals who invaded during Biden's 4 years. And further has made the border the most secure it has been since Eisenhower was president.
And has simultaneously vastly cut the amount of drugs smuggled into the U.S,, and vastly cut the number of drug overdose deaths in he U.S., and other related crime.

It is THE DEMOCRAT party that is rotten and corrupt, they want rigged elections, using illegal immigrants to pad the population census for Democrat House districts, and who will vote overwhelmingly Democrat if allowed to, at a ratio of close to 100%, despite that they will not assimilate, and will be disproportionately welfare recipients and national security risks, and as is very much in the news, who are predatory criminals.
This is part of the Democrat party's push for a Bolshevik revolution, to rig the system and create a Democrat one-party authoritarian Socialist-Marxist state. The devastation they created under Biden, they will bring back with a vengeance if the Democrat-Bolsheviks ever regain power.

They want to make us over into Venezuela.

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I recognize you say you believe that but I also recognize that you don’t support those empty words. Pretti in the video isn’t swinging at the agents when they’re spraying stuff straight in his face. He turns his back to them and tries to help the woman up. At no point do you see Ice try to de-escalate the situation. Instead they escalate the situation with violence. It’s become a familiar scenario. And our administration has told them and us these masked killers have immunity.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I recognize you say you believe that but I also recognize that you don’t support those empty words. Pretti in the video isn’t swinging at the agents when they’re spraying stuff straight in his face. He turns his back to them and tries to help the woman up. At no point do you see Ice try to de-escalate the situation. Instead they escalate the situation with violence. It’s become a familiar scenario. And our administration has told them and us these masked killers have immunity.


I'll acknowledge that video of the Alex Pretti shooting is not as clearly on the side of law enforcement as it is in the Renee Good shooting.

But just the same, Alex Pretti is seen in video jumping a Border Patrol agent after the agent pushed aside a female activist who was deliberately preventing him from doing his job.
Pretti, as part of a group of activists, jumped in to further obstruct the BP agent from his work, and the agent tried to wrestle Pretti to the ground to arrest him, as Pretty thrashed around and resisted arrest, WHILE ARMED.
Because Pretti was resisting arrest, several other Border Patrol agents jumped in to restrain and subdue him, and Pretti continued to resist WHILE ARMED.
At some point (unclear in the video) agents saw under his clothes he was carrying a gun, and an agent yelled "gun, GUN!" and one or more agents drew a weapon and fired before they could be fired upon. There is an allegation (unconfirmed) that one of the agents had already confiscated Pretti's weapon before shots were fired. Or alternaely, they could have fired on Pretti while he was still armed. All of these agents had body cameras that document what happened, and will further give testimony to investigators of what they saw, and probably have already given depositions, while events are fresh in their minds.

Don't speculate on what you think I "believe", those are the facts.
And neither one of us is professionally employed doing internal investigations of police shootings.

Border Patrol agents in the Pretti shooting tried to de-escalate the situation by restraining and arresting Pretti.
It was PRETTI who escalated the situation by thrashing around and resisting arrest by multiple agents, WHILE ARMED with a pistol and two extra clips of ammunition. Highly aggressive and angry and provoking agents on this occasion and in at least 2 prior videotaped incidents. As I said previously, amid confusion of muliple agents trying o restrain Pretti, an agent could have made a mistake when firing on Pretti, but whether 100% by the book or not, there was legitimate reason to think Pretti, armed, posed a threat to them, that justified firing on him.

It has been pointed out that if anything, UNDER-policing ten days prior, when Pretti (ON VIDEO) kicked out the tail-light on an ICE vehicle. Agents on that day got out of their SUV, wrestled Pretti to the ground and cuffed him, but ultimately did not charge him, and let Pretti go. If he had been arrested and jailed as he should have been, he would not have been on the street 10 days later to have continued his aggression against ICE / BP, that got him shot.

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Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
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I might also add, you posted a "Letter from Pretti's parents".
As sourced and linked in my long post above about the Marxist/Communist communications machine that motivates thousands of Pretti's in cities across the U.S., and successfully got him to martyr himself by fighing wih BP agents while armed with a handgun and 2 extra ammo clips (who goes to confront cops and "peavcefully protest" with a gun?)

That letter was written by a Communist front group, and has a very Communist/Red Army look in its original form (photo shown).

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/far-left-network-helped-put-alex-pretti-harms-way-made-him-martyr

It sounded like propaganda when I initially read what you copy-and-pasted. And it IS propaganda.

That would be a lie. The statement by Pretti’s family is written by them. Your attempt in dishonesty is no longer shocking WB


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
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I might also add, you posted a "Letter from Pretti's parents".
As sourced and linked in my long post above about the Marxist/Communist communications machine that motivates thousands of Pretti's in cities across the U.S., and successfully got him to martyr himself by fighing wih BP agents while armed with a handgun and 2 extra ammo clips (who goes to confront cops and "peavcefully protest" with a gun?)

That letter was written by a Communist front group, and has a very Communist/Red Army look in its original form (photo shown).

[Linked Image from a57.foxnews.com]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/far-left-network-helped-put-alex-pretti-harms-way-made-him-martyr

It sounded like propaganda when I initially read what you copy-and-pasted. And it IS propaganda.

That would be a lie. The statement by Pretti’s family is written by them. Your attempt in dishonesty is no longer shocking WB


Pretti's family advised him "not to engage" with ICE agents, not to "do anything stupid".
But he did exactly that, showed up armed and highly confrontational with ICE agents, and got shot.


His parents did the opposite of what you say, they warned their son Alex Pretti NOT to do exactly what he did. And armed with two additional clips of ammo, at least another 30 rounds, as he flung himself at Border Patrol agents, and thrashed around while armed resisting arrest, making them concerned he would pull his handgun on them.



Did his parents also design and print mass-produced copies of that red and black Soviet / communist looking cover-page for it, that you just re-posted above?



In your desperation to ignore the facts I cited, you lyingly try to paint me as "dishonest", just for posting the sourced and cited facts that are inconvenient to what you WISH was true.


Re-posting what I linked above :


THE FAR-LEFT NETWORK THAT HELPED PUT ALEX PRETTI IN HARM'S WAY, THEN MADE HIM A MARTYR
Encrypted Signal messages show organized left network of 'rapid responders' mobilized demonstrators to harass federal agents, then socialist groups capitalized on member agitator Pretti's killing to foment further protests and escalation


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/far-left-network-helped-put-alex-pretti-harms-way-made-him-martyr


January 25, 2026


  • The skirmish that led to Saturday's fatal shooting of an agitator by Border Patrol agents in Minneapolis and the response that followed were driven by a complex network of far-left organizations with a wide range of causes, a Fox News Digital investigation found.

    A coordinated web of encrypted chats, street alerts and tracking of ICE "Abductors" in a sophisticated database reviewed by Fox News Digital shows that agitators were already mobilized at the scene where 37-year-old Alex Pretti was killed minutes before any shots were fired.

    ICE and Border Patrol agents were there to arrest an illegal immigrant criminal, and Pretti and others were there, outside a donut shop, to meet them as part of a strategic pattern of organized interference with law enforcement operations.

    Over the following hours, a national network of socialist, communist and Marxist-Leninist cells in the United States leveraged the tragic fatality into a nationwide protest operation. While grief and outrage over Pretti's death is genuine, the network's real-time rapid response, using short sensational video clips and emojis as weapons of propaganda, offers a window into the disciplined logistics, messaging and coordination of far-left warriors fomenting insurgency-like confrontation with authorities.



    VANCE CALLS MINNEAPOLIS UNREST 'ENGINEERED CHAOS' AFTER DEADLY SHOOTING
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/va...s-after-deadly-federal-shooting-incident


    "This level of engineered chaos is unique to Minneapolis. It is the direct consequence of far left agitators, working with local authorities," Vice President JD Vance observed in a Sunday post on X.

    The encrypted Signal messages obtained by Fox News Digital in real time show that anti-ICE "rapid responders" were actively tracking, broadcasting and summoning "backup" around federal agents outside Glam Doll Donuts on Nicollet Avenue, where the shooting happened. Local "rapid responders" made at least 26 entries into a database called "MN ICE Plates" in the critical hours before and after the killing, documenting the license plate numbers and details of alleged ICE vehicles they claimed to see around Nicollet Avenue.

    The entry at row 344 read, "At the nicollet [sic] murder," chronicling a black Jeep Wagoneer at the location with agents allegedly "involved in shooting." Row 338 had a "Glam Doll Donuts" entry, tracking a black Ford Taurus.



    BONDI BLAMES MINNEAPOLIS LEADERS AFTER ARMED SUSPECT KILLED, UNREST ERUPTS DURING ICE OPERATION
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bo...illed-unrest-erupts-during-ice-operation



    At 9:50 a.m. ET, just before the killing, a user identified as "Willow" shared a 22-second video on an encrypted Signal chat for anti-ICE "rapid responders."

    "26and 3rd," wrote "Willow," quickly following up with, "Outside Glam Doll."

    The video showed two agents, one wearing a vest marked "POLICE," studying the front door of Glam Doll before walking away, past a sign in the window that read, "ICE OUT OF MINNESOTA."

    As the camera rolled, the person filming yelled, "No!"

    The camera followed the agents as they returned to a maroon Dodge Durango, passing another sign in the window that read, "ALL WELCOME HERE."

    In the video, someone shouted, "Get out of here!"

    Just three minutes later, at 9:53 a.m. ET, a second Signal user, "Salacious B. Crumb," escalated the alert, summoning additional responders and citing the same vehicle and agents.

    "Backup needed at the Black Forest Inn parking lot on Nicollet Ave just south of 26th Street," the message read.



    DHS SAYS ICE AGENTS RAMMED BY VEHICLES AMID MINNEAPOLIS ENFORCEMENT SURGE: 'AGGRESSIVELY ASSAULTED'
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dh...enforcement-surge-aggressively-assaulted





    "Multiple vehicles with many agents appear to be staging there," the alert continued. "One confirmed ICE vehicle seen was a maroon Dodge Durango [plate number], but it has driven away northbound on Nicollet." Fox News Digital has redacted the Florida license plate number included in the original message.

    ICE Assistant Director Marcos Charles said Sunday that the violence on the streets was "not a coincidence," considering the "chaos and mayhem" that agitators are fomenting in Minneapolis. At the same press conference, Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) Commander-at-Large Greg Bovino confirmed that Pretti was "on the scene several minutes" before the fatal shooting.

    Video of the scene shows that as Pretti stepped into the middle of Nicollet Avenue to direct traffic, fellow agitators could be heard blowing whistles to alert locals that ICE officers were around. Soon after, Pretti ended up in a street confrontation with CBP agents, across the street from Glam Doll Donuts outside a worn storefront marked "NEW AMERICAN DEVELOPMENT CENTER," a nonprofit focused on immigration entry programs for Somalis.

    Within minutes, at about 10:05 a.m. ET, at least one CBP agent shot Pretti, killing him.




    MINNESOTA ICE OFFICIAL URGES PROTESTS TO REMAIN PEACEFUL AMID TENSIONS 'LIKE NOTHING I'VE EVER SEEN BEFORE'
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/minne...nsions-like-nothing-ive-ever-seen-before




    At 10:18 a.m. ET, the Signal network erupted.


    Using a red phone emoji to signal an all-points alert, a message blasted out: "?? easy. URGENT: observers urgently requested at glam doll donuts @ 26th & nicollet [sic]," the alert continued. "an observer has been shot by ice, unknown condition, emts [emergency medical technicians] present, please be safe. EDIT: medics requested to join perimeter in case agents start gassing. be aware there are many agents and mpd [Minneapolis Police Department] officers present."

    Within minutes, far-left activists descended on Nicollet Avenue. Soon after, a video showed corrugated boxes of supplies apparently lined up on a Minneapolis sidewalk for protesters, including boxes marked "DESINER MASKS" [sic] and "FREE WINTER HATS," next to piles of bottled water.



    MINNESOTA AGITATORS STALK, PELT BORDER PATROL AGENTS WITH FOOD AND SPIT AT GAS STATIONS, DHS SAYS
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/minnesot...l-agents-food-spit-gas-stations-dhs-says




    Within hours, socialist leaders turbocharged their "rapid responders" in Minneapolis and mobilized street protesters from New York City to Los Angeles.

    Media outlets, including CNN and MSNOW, described "angry protesters" but failed to identify the ideological networks behind the mobilization, even as protesters flashed their signs with their logos and names, touting socialism, communism and Marxism, on camera.

    The Minneapolis activation marked the beginning of an almost instantaneous weekend surge by far-left organizations, including hardened socialist and communist groups operating in an ecosystem that national security experts describe as an insurgent-style operation designed to exploit tragedy to wage a domestic political war.

    The strategy mirrors past mobilizations, including the aftermath of George Floyd’s killing in May 2020, and exploits well-intentioned public sympathy by rapidly framing Pretti — an intensive care unit nurse at a Veterans Administration hospital — as a symbol of resistance, much like Renee Good, the first victim of an ICE shooting in Minneapolis.


    Just as they responded in real-time to mobilize "comrades" to march on the streets within 12 hours of the U.S. arrest of Venezuelan strongman Nicolás Maduro in early January, socialist, communist and Marxist-Leninist groups now frame their activation as an action within the "belly of the beast" against the "hyperimperialism" of the United States.



    VANCE CALLS MINNEAPOLIS UNREST 'ENGINEERED CHAOS' AFTER DEADLY SHOOTING
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/va...s-after-deadly-federal-shooting-incident



    Based on a digital analysis of scores of rapid-response messages following the killing on Saturday, a hub of communist and socialist nonprofit organizations emerged as key organizers of the protests. Many of them are funded by American-born billionaire Neville Roy Singham, a self-declared Marxist-Leninist living in Shanghai. Some are also offshoots of the People’s Forum Inc., a nonprofit hub Singham has funded in New York City since 2017 as an "incubator" for socialist and communist groups. The People's Forum declined requests for comment.

    At 10:48 a.m. ET, BreakThrough News, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit and propaganda arm of the People’s Forum, broke the news widely of the killing, sharing a video recorded from inside the Glam Doll Donut shot of the tussle outside, punctuated by gunshots and frantic narration, "Holy s--t. What the f---!...Did they f---ing kill that guy? F---ing kidding me, dude."

    BreakThrough News put a dramatic black-and-white caption over the video: "BREAKING: Another CBP Shooting in Minneapolis." By Sunday afternoon, the video had 4.1 million views, alongside the outlet’s calls to support the People’s Republic of China, Venezuela’s Maduro and the communist revolution in Cuba.

    Before the video cuts off, someone can be heard saying, "Yo, we need people on site!"



    MINNESOTA SOCIALISTS TELL WORKERS TO FAKE SICK LEAVE FOR ANTI-ICE PROTESTS
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/minne...ick-leave-anti-ice-protests-across-state



    At 11:40 a.m., BreakThrough News broadcast a 39-second video purporting to show state police charging across a street with batons, some falling as clouds of breath rose in the cold air.

    Soon after, at 12:24 p.m., the Party for Socialism and Liberation – a political wing of the movement, working with shared leadership at the People’s Forum – published a quickly-made graphic, "CBP MURDERS ANOTHER IN MINNEAPOLIS," and the message, "EXPAND THE GENERAL STRIKE!"

    The call for a "general strike," a classic communist tactic, refers to coordinated mass work stoppages aimed at paralyzing civil society to force political – and economic – outcomes.

    At 12:33 p.m., the People’s Forum blasted out a bold red-and-white poster to followers, calling for an "EMERGENCY PROTEST" at 4 p.m. ET at Union Square in midtown Manhattan, with the message, "STOP ICE TERROR."



    DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA IN NYC TRAINING THOUSANDS OF ACTIVISTS TO COUNTER ICE: REPORT
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/democrat...g-thousands-activists-counter-ice-report



    In lockstep, at 12:57 p.m., Democratic Socialists of America, the 501(c)(3) nonprofit that elected Zohran Mamdani as mayor of New York City, posted a stark black-and-white graphic on X, calling the killing an "execution" and demanding, "ABOLISH ICE NOW."

    At the protest, Linda Sarsour, a Palestinian political operative who has led virulently anti-Israel protests with socialist organizations after the Oct. 7, 2023, attack against Israel by Hamas terrorists, rallied the crowd at the 4 p.m. protest, yelling, "We will bring this country to a halt!" The People’s Forum shared the 22-second video clip with the caption: "?HAPPENING NOW IN NYC."

    Other groups mobilized simultaneously, including Freedom Road Socialist Organization, a self-described Marxist-Leninist group that has waved its red flag with its acronym, "FRSO," in the middle of the protests since Good’s killing.

    Also active: the Minnesota Immigrant Rights Action Committee, which has led many of the rapid-response efforts and Black Lives Matter chapters, which led the recent stampede through a local Christian church.




    ANTI-ICE AGITATOR ALLEGEDLY BITES OFF FEDERAL OFFICER'S FINGER DURING MINNEAPOLIS ATTACK
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/anti-ice...fficers-finger-during-minneapolis-attack




    By early evening, the narrative had coalesced into a chorus of voices within the far-left propaganda apparatus, adopting charged historical language to brand federal officials as Nazi-like figures. At 4:12 p.m. ET, Calla Walsh, a controversial communist activist filmed this past summer in Iran shouting, "Death to America! Death to Israel!" shared a 32-second video showing barricades built with Republic Services dumpsters.

    She wrote, "People of Minneapolis build barricades, trapping ICE Gestapo at the scene of their latest murder in broad daylight. Not far from where they killed Renee Good a couple weeks ago, not far from where George Floyd was killed in 2020."

    By evening, CNN was reporting from the 4 p.m. protest in New York City but did not identify the ideological affiliations of the organizers, even as activists openly carried signs from the Party for Socialism and Liberation, with the group’s full name printed across the bottom.




    FREY, KLOBUCHAR CALL FOR ICE TO LEAVE MINNEAPOLIS FOLLOWING DEADLY CBP SHOOTING IN CITY
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fr...polis-following-deadly-cbp-shooting-city




    Another CNN segment from Minneapolis interviewed Chris Gray, describing him only as Pretti’s "next-door neighbor." Gray spoke about Pretti while delivering a well-scripted appeal for a general strike to dismantle the "Trump regime" and promote "non-violent resistance." The segment did not disclose that Gray is a member of Socialist Alternative, the U.S. affiliate of the International Socialist Alternative, a "global fighting organization of workers, young people, and all those oppressed by capitalism and imperialism," seeking to create a "socialist world."

    Soon after, however, Socialist Alternative shared the interview proudly on Instagram, noting, "Chris Gray, Socialist Alternative member and next-door neighbor of Alex Pretti, speaks out."

    By evening’s end, at 9:44 p.m. ET, Gloria La Riva, a co-founder of the Party for Socialism and Liberation who has described herself as "a communist," posted a message on X, using the inflammatory language now normalized: "Alex Pretti was murdered in cold blood, everyone knows that. 10 shots in his back. All of Trump's, Noem's, Bovino's lies cannot cover it up. The people's struggle will only grow!"




    TRUMP CITES ARMED SUSPECT, LACK OF POLICE SUPPORT FOLLOWING FATAL BORDER PATROL SHOOTING IN MINNEAPOLIS
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...fatal-border-patrol-shooting-minneapolis




    The maroon Dodge Durango in the early Signal alerts from Saturday morning is Entry No. 2069 in the publicly shared database, "MN ICE PLATES." It included a gallery of photos of alleged ICE vehicles.

    At last count on Sunday, the database had 4,626 records of license plate numbers organized as "Highly Suspected ICE," "Confirmed ICE," "Suspected ICE," "Cleared – Not ICE" and "Unknown."

    The total number of "Confirmed ICE" entries is 2,933 records. The total number of records labeled "Abductors" is 455.

    A fine-print disclaimer states that the data is "for informational purposes only" and that its organizers "do not condone its use to forcibly assault, resist, oppose, impede or interfere with the official duties of any officer or employee of the United States, or of any agency in any branch of the United States Government, while engaged in or on account of the performance of official duties."



    One guide, "Best Practices Guide for Neighborhood or Area Patrol / Monitors: 612," includes a key to emojis and the jobs they represent for rapid responders:


    "??= Mobile Patrol / Commuter - In a vehicle driving around, looking for agents"

    "??= Stationary Patrol/Monitor - In a vehicle positioned at key places in the area, looking for agents"

    "?????= Foot Patrol - On foot, looking for agents"

    "?? = Dispatch - Live on the Monitor / Patrol group call"

    "? = Hyper-local group messenger - Ready to pass on word to individual neighborhoods and blocks"

    ‘? = School / event safety spotters - Assigned and connected to a specific school or event"

    "?? = License plate checker - Ready to check a plate against the list of known license plates’

    "?? = Medic - Ready to offer medical care"

    "???? = Aftercare provider - Available to connect with responders after an event"



    The maroon Dodge Durango that was allegedly outside Glam Doll Donuts on Nicollet Avenue is listed with three prior sightings: Jan. 11 at 3 p.m. at the Whipple federal detention facility, Jan. 13 at 1:15 p.m. and a final sighting at Powderhorn Park parking lot on 35th Street and 14th Avenue.

    It’s listed with the tags, "Seen in a convoy, Tinted/blacked-out windows, ICE agent(s) seen in vehicle," and a final verdict: "Confirmed ICE."

    As socialist organizations continued to dispatch their foot soldiers to Nicollet Avenue on Sunday evening, the Signal groups were as active as ever on Sunday, an alert going out at 4:37 p.m. ET, with rapid responders now chasing a black Dodge Durango around town.

    "2 confirmed ICE vehicles," the alert read, "...at least 2 agents in each vehicle."







Are you blind to all the organized communist groups listed above, who ORCHESTRATED Renee Good and Alex Pretti's incitement, and who orchestrated the multiple propaganda campaigns immediately after, to exploit their deaths?
LOOK AT ALL THOSE CITED MARXIST GROUPS, and their funding and ideological ties, and joint operations with international anti-American socialist and communist activist groups, and with hostile foreign nations.



Just as they have orchestrated all these thousands of other radicals, in Minneapolis and other cities nationwide, to surveil, chase, identify and "dox" ICE agents, to identify their license plates, to put pressure on ICE agents at every turn, so that agents inevitably at some point will make a mistake.
And then the communist Red Army of activists can swarm in and exploit it. To incite revolution in yet anoher propaganda campaign and battle, toward the ultimate goal, to de-stabilize and overthrow the United States.
THAT is who you are siding with.

No, it was these foreign-aligned America-hating communist groups who re-packaged what we saw into this communist propaganda narrative, with a slickly-produced and proudly Marxist-Soviet looking cover page (shown above, that you just re-posted an image of. )
Marxists.
Not Pretti's parents.

Pretti's parents were clear in a published interview (thaat I posted previously above) that they had a conversation 2 weeks ago with Alex Pretti, instructing him NOT to do exactly what he did, that got him shot.

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You are lying though. Those are Alex’s parents words that you tried to falsely say were written by others. And there is so much video of Ice being the aggressors that you can argue all you want not to trust our lying eyes but nobody is going to buy it outside of MAGA


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From the Imploding MAGA world topic:



Originally Posted by Wonder Boy
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GAI’s Seamus Bruner:
Left-Wing Funders Such as Roy Singham Behind Antifa Riots



  • Seamus Bruner, the Director of Research at the Government Accountability Institute (GAI) revealed that left-wing funders such as billionaire Neville Roy Singham were behind left-wing Antifa riots and protests.

    During a roundtable event on Antifa with President Donald Trump, Bruner explained that he, GAI President Peter Schweizer, and their team “followed” a trail of money and “followed it to the top of what” they called the Protest Industrial Complex, or Riot Inc.
    Bruner explained that the so-called “Riot Inc.” was made up of many different divisions, and that “dozens of radical organizations” have received millions of dollars from Riot Inc.

    “We found a network of NGOs, it’s not just the Soros network, the Open Society Network. It’s other funding networks, the Arabella Funding Network, the Tides Funding Network, Neville Roy Singham and his network, foreign cash,” Bruner explained. “And, it’s also big left-wing funders — some of them are not citizens of this country.”

    Bruner continued to note that these left-wing funders were “pouring money into this entire ecosystem.”

    Bruner continued to share “three money facts” about Riot Inc., explaining that there were “many divisions” such as “PR divisions, marketing divisions” and even a “well-funded legal division.”

    “Number two, we have identified dozens of radical organizations, not just the decentralized Antifa organizations, but dozens of radical organizations that have received more than one hundred million dollars from the Riot Inc. investors,” Bruner added. “These would be the lawyer groups, these would be the groups that advocate for calling good, honest Americans fascists.”

    “And then, three, I think the most shocking thing is that we have found that more than one hundred million dollars in U.S. taxpayer funding has flowed into these funding networks, including at least four million dollars to these very groups themselves,” Bruner added.

    Bruner’s mention of Singham comes after an investigation by the Breitbart News Foundation reported that while “records from the United Kingdom confirm” that Singham resigned from Thoughtworks, Inc., which he founded in 1993, “Chinese government records suggest otherwise.”

    After founding Thoughtworks, Inc. in 1993 and building the company into a software consulting powerhouse, Singham helped orchestrate its sale in October 2017, for approximately $785 million to a group of funds managed by London-based private equity firm Apax Partners. Corporate records from the United Kingdom confirm Singham’s resignation from Thoughtworks the same month, and his own LinkedIn profile says he has been retired since 2017. Thoughtworks’ English-language website relegates him to its “alumni” section, reinforcing the image of a clean break.

    But Chinese government records suggest otherwise. These records list Singham as a corporate officer of Thoughtworks’ Chinese subsidiary, Thoughtworks Beijing, as recently as June 17, 2025, and for at least as far back as 2022. These records are from the National Enterprise Credit Reporting System (NECIPS), China’s corporate registry. Other documents, including trade show profile and “help-wanted” ads, listed Singham as Thoughtworks Beijing’s official contact in 2021.

    The New York Post reported in June that Singham was set to be called to testify before a congressional committee regarding him funding “radical anti-Israel and Marxist groups” behind the Los Angeles riots.

    In an article written by Bruner in June, Bruner detailed how the GAI had uncovered how the “official partners” behind the “No Kings” protests “bagged $114.8 million since 2019 from the Arabella Avisors dark money network and how professional protest organizations use tax dollars as a force multiplier.”

    Bruner reported:
    The expected worldwide mobilization of protests against President Donald Trump this weekend will hardly be a spontaneous eruption. On the contrary, the tumult is a carefully plotted production organized by The Indivisible Project and financed by the progress dark money network managed/advised by Arabella Advisors, which has perfected the mounting of made-to-order protests.
    Since 2019, the Arabella network has dumped more than $100 million into the coffers of the official “No Kings” protest partners—including the creator of the official protest song book.

    This “grassroots” “nationwide days of defiance” targets Trump and his “billionaire allies,” according to organizers. The Arabella network’s biggest benefactors are the left’s own billionaire heroes, including George Soros, Bill Gates, Hansjorg Wyss, Mark Zuckerberg, and Reid Hoffman.

    During the roundtable event, Bruner vowed to “keep following the money,” and expressed that he appreciated “everything” Trump was doing.







But yeah, it's Trump supporters who are at the center of a massive and well-funded "insurrection" attempt to overthrow the United States.

rolleyes


Trump was overwhelmingly elected, not a "king". Who is doing the will of the people, that he was precisely elected by the people to do.

Whereas these Leftist billionaires are the actual "kings", using their money and power to secretively obstruct and overthrow the will of the people, in pursuit of their own twisted authoritarian ideology and power. The rioting violent mobs they fund are saying: "OBEY... or else".


https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individuals/george-soros/

https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/organizations/bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation/

https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individuals/hansjorg-wyss/

https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individuals/mark-zuckerberg/

https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/organizations/fwdus/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reid_Hoffman

Other major foundations supporting these and other organized nationwide protests (against Trump) are the Ford Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, and Warren Buffett.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett
https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individuals/warren-buffett/

https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/organizations/ford-foundation/

https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/organizations/rockefeller-foundation/


Because it is relevant.

The Occupy Wall Street movement, the No Borders movement, the Anti-ICE movement, the "No Kings" movement, and other mass simultaneous protests and riots across hundreds of U.S. cities, are not spontaneous grassroots popular reaction to specific issues, they are all funded and orchestrated by the America-hating Democrat-Left, in conspiracy with Leftist / globalist billionaires, also funded if not orchestrated by the Chinese Communist government, to de-stabilize and overthrow the United States.

This is not a lone Democrat "Anti ICE" movement, it is one tentacle of the larger Hydra, all these mass protests part of a larger plot against the United States.
As David Horowitz said in his book The Shadow Party (2006), the Democrat party is the chosen instrument for the Anti-American Left and globalists to overthrow the United States.

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Trump is deeply unpopular outside of maga world and even that is starting to crack. That of course is a problem for a party that is so deeply tied to him. The great thing about No Kings and ICe protests is the massive amount of people showing up and supporting them. People literally risked their lives to peacefully protest ICE. And again this is a threat to the gop. The same gop that has blocked any attempt to get rid of dark money in elections. The same gop that watched Jan 6 happen and try to pretend it wasn’t thier supporters that did it. The same GOP that allowed Trump to set free those that actually planned and caused political violence for Trump on that day.

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This was a good summary of recent ICE killings…
Tom Homan went on Fox News Wednesday night and warned there will be more "bloodshed" unless Democrats "shut their mouth" and let ICE work, one day after Trump's own Homeland Security Secretary put it in writing that ICE officers should stop pulling people over.

Here is the sequence.

On Monday in Biddeford, Maine, ICE officers shot and killed Johan Sebastián Durán Guerrero, a 25-year-old delivery driver with a work permit and a young daughter. Law enforcement sources told CBS News he was not the man they were looking for.

Six days earlier in Houston, an officer killed Lorenzo Salgado Araujo, 52, a father of three who had been here 35 years, as he drove a work crew to a job site. DHS conceded he wasn't the target either. His van resembled the one they wanted.

By Tuesday, Homeland Security Secretary Markwayne Mullin had sent the order down. ICE officers opened their email and found instructions to pause vehicle stops immediately and prioritize other methods of enforcement.

That email is the whole ballgame. Trump's own department looked at what its officers were doing at car windows, wrote its conclusion down, and the conclusion was stop.

Then Steve Bannon's show lit up. Lawyer Mike Davis went on air and called Mullin a wimp, told him to quit if he wasn't up to the job.

The Atlantic reported the final straw came when Trump saw the pause criticized on cable news Wednesday morning.

He went to Truth Social: "we CANNOT give up one of I.C.E.'s most important and effective Crime Fighting tools, THE TRAFFIC STOP!"

The post was the policy. A White House official confirmed that the Truth Social message itself served as the reversal of the DHS memo.

There was no review, no meeting, no new guidance. The president watched cable news and typed, and federal law enforcement policy changed on contact.

The pause lasted about twenty-four hours.

So when Homan says the bloodshed continues until Democrats are quiet, hear what he is confessing. The bloodshed already stopped once. It stopped because the government's own people looked at the evidence and flinched. It restarted because the base thought flinching looked weak.

Guerrero's three-year-old daughter watched him die.

Homan says he's scared to death he'll be handing a folded flag to somebody's spouse. Two families buried men this month. Neither wore a badge. Neither was even the guy.

His whole theory is that politicians running their mouths is what puts bodies in the street. On that one point he's telling the truth. The words that sent those officers back to the car windows were typed at breakfast, in all caps, by the president.


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Trump’s DOJ blocked serious ICE s...cutor’s strongest possible objections
“ by Megan Rose and Andy Mannix
September 2, 2026, 9:14 pm

Over the “strongest possible” objections from the federal prosecutor handling the case, leaders at the Department of Justice in Washington, D.C., quashed plans to bring civil rights charges against an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent accused of shooting a Venezuelan immigrant and then lying about it.
The agent, 52-year-old Christian Castro, allegedly shot Julio Cesar Sosa-Celis in the leg in Minneapolis this January during Operation Metro Surge, the Trump administration’s immigration blitz that sent thousands of federal agents into the state. The incident was one of three shootings by immigration agents in the city, the other two of which were fatal.
Federal prosecutors in Minnesota had been preparing to charge Castro with deprivation of rights under color of law for the shooting of Sosa-Celis, according to several people familiar with the case. Those charges are similar to the ones leveled against Minneapolis police officers accused in George Floyd’s killing and can carry hefty prison sentences.
Late on Tuesday, Matthew Evans, the assistant U.S. attorney in Minnesota in charge of the case, told lawyers for Sosa-Celis and other victims to prepare for Castro to be charged “only with False Statements,” according to an email that was reviewed by ProPublica.
That charge would likely carry a far less severe punishment if he were convicted.
“This is being directed by the Main Justice and the US Attorney,” Evans wrote in a remarkably candid account of internal deliberations. “I objected in the strongest possible terms and fought it as hard as I could. It wasn’t enough.”
“ He wrote that the false statement charges could come soon and would likely be filed under seal.
“It has been an honor and a privilege to try to get justice for your clients,” Evans concluded the email.
A DOJ official said civil rights charges require consultation with the civil rights division in Washington, and “any charging decisions that come out of such investigations are collaborative and deliberative and adhere to the facts and law of that specific case and controversy.”
The agency “has not yet reached a conclusion on this matter and will never rush an investigative process and the thorough review of all evidence,” the official said.
Evans and a spokesperson for the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Minnesota declined to comment. An attorney for Sosa-Celis did not return phone calls from a reporter. Castro, who has an outstanding warrant in Minnesota for this case, could not be reached for comment.
Under the Trump administration, the Justice Department’s civil rights division has been thinned and has dropped some Biden-era oversight of law enforcement agencies. This move by the DOJ is likely to fuel further concerns that the department is operating more in support of President Donald Trump’s political agenda than to preserve the rule of law. Earlier this year, a ProPublica analysis found that in almost every instance of immigration agents shooting people, Trump’s administration blamed the injured and dead within hours of the incident. In many of those cases, federal or local police declined to investigate the agents.
Castro, who was put on leave by the Department of Homeland Security, is also facing multiple state felony charges in Minnesota, including assault with a dangerous weapon. After he left Minneapolis and returned to Texas, Minnesota officials had requested state officials there extradite Castro to face the charges, but Texas Gov. Greg Abbott refused to cooperate. Castro had been held for 90 days in jail while the two states fought over the extradition. He was released last week.
Sosa-Celis was shot on Jan. 14, as Castro and another ICE agent chased Alfredo Aljorna, an immigrant from Venezuela, after a traffic stop. Aljorna ran to his home, which he shared with Sosa-Celis. The two men made it inside after a brief scramble, and Castro fired through the closed door, “knowing [the home] was occupied by several people,” according to state charging documents. One witness said there were two children in the house when Castro shot into it. Sosa-Celis was hit in the leg.
ICE agents then deployed tear gas into the home and took the men and their partners into custody, according to the documents and other court records.
DHS originally said Castro and the other agent were ambushed by the men and beaten with a shovel or broomstick, making Castro fear for his life and fire in self-defense. DHS called Sosa-Celis and Aljorna “violent criminal illegal aliens,” and federal prosecutors charged them with assault. ”

And now Evan’s has been fired and is being investigated for allegedly leaking. This administration is evil doing everything it can to protect bad and unlawful ice agents.

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1) propublica.com .... far-Left liberal propaganda


2) I really don't give a raging fuck about the death of Renee Goode, or about the death of a Venezuelan CRIMINAL ILLEGAL immigrant, who SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN IN THIS COUNTRY IN THE FIRST PLACE. Period, the end. Goode and Preti both provoked these ICE and Border Parol agents, in Pretti's case was loaded with several clips of bullets for his gun, for a prolonged firefight, and maybe to kill a number of Border Patrol officers.
And Renee Goode used her car (captured on video) as a weapon attemting to intentionally kill an ICE agent, and even though she failed, she still very seriously injured him, to the point that agent was hospitalized with injuries and internal bleeding for several months after.

Both of these people, and many others like Alex Prettt, are criminals who are TRAINED Antifa BLM Marxist /Communist activists who deliberately get in the way of ICE and Border Patrol, over and over every day, deliberaely provoking and endangering agents, and got exactly what they deserved. And if their deaths deter more of these Leftist maniac attacks on ICE, on Border Patrol, or on regular police, God bless, the good of the nation has been served.

Any Leftist propaganda beyond these obvious facts is just liberal spin propaganda, parroted by you and the broader Left, to undermine enforcement of border security, and to give an undue martyrdom to illegal immigrants and Democrat /Left activist Communists, who by their own actions, CAUSED what happened to them, quite deliberately.



https://www.foxnews.com/us/ice-offi...apolis-shooting-involving-venezuelan-man


There is a question about what happened, there is not proof or a guilty prosecution that ICE agent Christian Castro did anything wrong.
Castro said that he was on the ground when he shot the attacking Venezuelan illegal, but video shows him standing when he fired the shot that injured the criminal's leg. He recalled that the clash with the Venezuelan illegal lasted several minutes, but the video shows the physical confrontation lasted about 11 seconds before Castro fired his gun and hit the criminal's leg.
I see these as small discrepancies, and in the heat of confrontation, he could have perceived the events as he recalled them, not out of any attempted deception.
The ICE agent was attacked, the criminal physically assaulted him, agent Castro fired his gun in self defense. His statement of wha happened in he shooting is essentially all correct, with some minor details perceived differently than occurred.
The hoopla beyond that is just Democrat/Lefttist propaganda.

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It’s clear Castro lied and he also fired a gun into a home endangering everyone that was inside.

Petti was legally carrying a firearm and his last act before being piled on, beaten and shot multiple times was helping a protester up off the ground. Killing protesters because they’re in the way isn’t ok when there is eventually a trial.

Fortunately we live in a country where Trump and his thugs will lose power and eventually have to face justice for those murders that you don’t care about. It will be justice delayed but it will be coming.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
It’s clear Castro lied and he also fired a gun into a home endangering everyone that was inside.

Well, I should have clarified that the guy ICE agent Castro shot was hit in the leg, and was not killed like Renee Goode was (who almost killed the ICE agent who shot her, in self defense).

And like Alex Pretti was (who may have had a legally licensed gun, but was carrying enough clips of ammo to take on a small army, and was fighting agents when they saw his gun and shot him, and in all likelihood shot him precisely because they thought he was about to open fire ON THEM. You can be licensed to carry a concealed weapon, but they explain to you when going through mandatory gun training when licensed NOT to do exactly what Pretti did, in physically clashing with police while wearing your concealed-carry gun. That is the precise way to alarm police and get shot by police, who see your aggression and are forced to fire before being fired upon And there is video of Preti on other occasions being out on the street, very aggressively going after ICE agents, on one occasion ON VIDEO kicking ou the tail light on ICE agent's, SUV. This Alex Pretti jerk was not a peacefull hippie activist, this was a guy LOOKING for a fight with ICE, and he got exactly wha he was looking for..)


As I already said, I don't see that agent Castro lied, I see him in the rush of events not recalling details occurring for the length they occurred as later shown in the video found of it. But the facts are essenitally the same. HE WAS ATTACKED, whether that attack lasted 11 seconds or 3 minutes.
Under extreme stress, it could have seemed much longer in Castro's recollection than 11 seconds.

And it was the guy he was chasing who went into that apartment who put those people and children in danger., and maybe the fault of the people in the apartment who let the suspect in, to help him escape arrest. And in any case, the others were not harmed, only the VIOLENT CRIMINAL SUSPECT agent Castro shot in the leg. Who by the way, physically attacked Castro.



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Petti was legally carrying a firearm and his last act before being piled on, beaten and shot multiple times was helping a protester up off the ground. Killing protesters because they’re in the way isn’t ok when there is eventually a trial.

Take a second look at that video with your glasses on.

Pretti may have partly been helping the other protester off the ground, but he was also fighting with officers and interfering with an arrest, physically confronting police.
Alex Pretti CHOSE to put on a gun, with a lot of clips of ammunition, before CHOOSING to jump on a crowd of police officers and thrash around fighting them.

AGAIN:Exactly what they train you NOT to do in basic required training, when being licensed to have a concealed-carry gun. And the video of him highly aggressively going multiple times at ICE agents on a previous day, and in rage kicking out the ICE SUV's tail light, shows you just how "peaceful" this radical leftist piece of shit was. He got exactly what he solicited, exactly what he deserved.
And even his parents in advance told Pretti a day before "not to do anything stupid" when attending protests.
But Pretti clearly did anyway.
Don't blame the ICE agents for Alex Preti's deliberate provocation and stupidity.




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Fortunately we live in a country where Trump and his thugs will lose power and eventually have to face justice for those murders that you don’t care about. It will be justice delayed but it will be coming.

That would be funny, your saying that, if you were not clearly brainwashed to believe it, and part of a pending Marxist revoluion, just looking for an opportunity o overhrow our Constituional republic.
You defend criminals, and attack law enforcement for defending U.S. citizens and upholding the law.
You rage on Trump and MAGA, for stopping your Marxist revolution. You have absolutely no interest in the Constitutional rule of law, except as lying talking points propaganda, to push your leftist overthrow, to creaye a one-party Marxist-Socialist government, and weaponize FBI and other federal agencies to intimidate, prosecute and imprison any ciizens who oppose your overthrow. James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bill Priesap, Kevin Clinesmith, Bruce and Nellie Ohr, John Brennan, James Rybacki, Bill Priestap, Rod Rosensein, Andrew Weissman, Sally Yates, And Obama's Jan 5 2021 Oval Office plot to frame General Michael Flynn, is all evidence of exacly what I'm saying.
And Susan Rice, Hakkim Jeffries, Chuck Schumer, James Carville and others have all said they would launch another even fiercer wave of weaponized federal assault on Trump supporters and anyone else who gets in their way, if these Democrat-Bolsheviks ever again regain power. Their rheoric is remarkably like that of the Bolshevik revoluionaries in 1917-1922 Russia, and the Maoist revoluionaries in 1949 China. And ha is no coincidence, hese are he people he Democra pary leadership and Chinese allies worship.

It's programmed zealots like you that people like Vladimir Lenin, Josef Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Fidel Castro, Che Gueverra, Pol Pot and other communist revolutionaries rely on to slaugher innocent people they scapegoat as enemies, and then re-write history so these communist thugs, ACTUAL thugs, not the lawful police you falsely brand as thugs, just to serve your communist revolution.



Show me where Trump has ACTUALLY broken ANY law.
All you have is the bumper sticker narrative that "Trump is a criminal, Trump is corrupt" without any facts to back it up.
It's all false narrative.

Your side had to manufacture fake prosecutions with judge-shopped ultra-Left Democrat judges, with districts for trials of Donald Trump selected that were over 90% rabid Trump-hating Democrats, who on several occasions interviewed on CNN and elsewhere, these jurors were giggling and licking their lips at the prospect of convicting Trump, on ANY charges, no matter what the evidence, just to destroy Trump politically.

Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley, for over 25 years now of the most respected legal scholars in the country, and for all that time were Democrats, over he last 3 years say these trials and convictions of Trump, on made-up fake charges, charges that NO OTHER PERSON HAS EVER BEEN LEGALLY PROSECUTED FOR, ONLY TRUMP, were the most obscenely egregiously biased trials they have ever witnessed, and they sat in the courtroom every day of these trials to witness them. That these "convictions" will inevitably be overturned and thrown out because of their extreme bias.

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Video footage shows nobody attacked Castro. He just made it all up. And there was no justification for shooting into a home. And all this over what is a misdemeanor charge at the federal level. Your take just shows what we all know about you. You will support any crime committed by law enforcement if it supports Trump. And if it’s law enforcement on Jan 6 who got beaten up by Trump supporters you will run them down. If it benefits the old fraudster, you will support it.

When Trump loses power justice is coming. I imagine prosecutors will start with the small fish and work their way up. This case for example might make some big fish accomplices if they covered up for Castro. The whole operation was meant to rough up a blue state and its citizens. An unforgivable abuse of power by Trump.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
Video footage shows nobody attacked Castro. He just made it all up. And there was no justification for shooting into a home. And all this over what is a misdemeanor charge at the federal level. Your take just shows what we all know about you. You will support any crime committed by law enforcement if it supports Trump. And if it’s law enforcement on Jan 6 who got beaten up by Trump supporters you will run them down. If it benefits the old fraudster, you will support it.

Unclustering all your lies :

1) You don't know that, it is ALLEGED, not proven.

2) You and the rest of the Democrat-Bolshevik Left instinctively side AGAINST law enforcement, particularly ICE in recent years, and only in cases like January 6th do you PRETEND to support law enforcement, on those rare occasions, as a political weapon against border security and Republicans, end especially, against Trump.

3) You are SUCH a liar when it comes to January 6th. As I've said many times, and it has been PROVEN, the 97% Democrat FBI and DOJ was weaponized by Joe Biden, by A G Merrick Garland and by FBI director Christopher Wray to create a fake NARRATIVE of "insurrection" panic on January 6th.
But it was known almost from the opening 3 months after Jan 6th, and later PROVEN that despite a Democrat weaponized FBI / DOJ and Soviet-style January 6th Committee, that the evidence of surveillance tapes proved the overwhelming innocence of those arrested for January 6th.

At least 90% who were arrested in FBI raids for no reason, who were tricked and INVITED INTO the Capitol in most cases, BY POLICE. Who video showed protesters were just walking around sightseeing, no violence, no vandalism, no confrontation with police, at least 90 percent of the protesters.
And the 40,000 hours of Captiol building security video that PROVED THEIR INNOCENCE was suppressed for 2 and a half years by Democrat-Bolsheviks in the Jan 6th Subcommittee, who were propping up a false narrative of "insurrecttion" panic.
THE EXACT DAY that Capitol surveillance video was released, that narrative was disproven, and within days nearly all those Jan 6 prisoners were immediately released.

Trump in Jan 2025 gave a pardon to most of the 1,500 arrested protesters, but only gave commutation to the few actual violent offenderss, and some were given no presidential pardon, for actual violence.
But even those rump pardoned served WAY more time in jail from FBI prosecutions, than they would for he same crime if prosecuted anywhere else in the country.

You are SUCH a liar, trying to STILL front that fake Democrat "insurrection: panic narrative, 3 years now after it was disproven.



And Kash Patel has fired about 2,000 FBI agents for being Democrat-Bolsheviks on the level of James Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page and Kevin Clinesmith, for their e-mails and texts that prove they were Democrat-Bolsheviks wih a political motive for persecuting these 1,500 INNOCENT people. There were only a handful of them who rioted and clashed with police.


And STILL not fully disclosed, at least 274 undercover FBI agents, DHS agents, DC Metro police officers, and Antifa and other groups, who disguised as Trump supporters, committed violence and vandalism themselves in a false-flag operation, just to smear Trump politically.

Over 90% of these Jan 6 protesters did absolutely nothing wrong, but were rounded up in armed 6AM show-arrests, and held indefinitely without evidence, without trial, in the worst of prison conditions.
Some of them beaten in their cells by Trump-hating guards, held without even working plumbing or drinkable water, or flushing toilets.
Even the worst murderers and Al Qaida terrorists were treated better than these Jan 6 prisoners, and they were often detained indefinitely without trial, not even proven to have committed any crime. But the overwhelming majjority were intimidated by FBI and the prison conditions, and forced to sign false confessions, just so they could end their ordeal.


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When Trump loses power justice is coming. I imagine prosecutors will start with the small fish and work their way up.

And by that you mean the Democrat vindictive and corrupt re-weaponization of the FBI against Democrat opponents, as happened for 8 years of Obama, and even more overtly under 4 years of Biden.
That's not "justice", that's just abusing FBI, IRS and other federal agencies to go after innocent people who happen to be Republicans, or go after Democrats like Tulsi Gabbard, John Fetterman, Robert Menendez, and Eric Adams, who don't uphold the false Democrat party narrative.



AGAIN: ICE agent Christian Castro is not proven to have done anything wrong, if at some point he is PROVEN to have acted wrongly, I will condemn his specific proven actions.
But innocent till proven guilty.
And it is A FACT that the Democrats nationwide are looking for any excuse to defame and "de-fund" and otherwise abolish ICE . Democrats want open borders and massive illegal immigration, because it provides them with Democrat-voting welfare dependents and potential voters.
And illegals just by being counted create Democrat-majority new House districts (illegals who should not even be counted in the census, and should just immediately be deportetd, as they are under Trump's second term.)



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...s-about-minneapolis-shooting/ar-AA2bAMxV

Even left-leaaning MSN acknowledges what I say, that Castro is only alleged, NOT proven, to be guilty of anything.
And Gov Abbott in Texas is reluctant to extradict Castro back to Minnesota because he is not convinced Castro is guilty of any crime, or would get a faair trial in Minneapolis.
Castro was ORDERED to Texas by his ICE employer, not because he fled criminal prosecution in Minneapolis.

Castro is only alleged, not proven, to have "lied" about being confronted by criminal illegals. He was attacked and pursued a fleeing suspect and two other criminal illegals who ambushed him.
You and other Democrats don't give a damn about agent Castro's innocence of guilt, you just want to use this allegation to smear and shut down ICE as a whole.
You side with criminals, no mater what.


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This case for example might make some big fish accomplices if they covered up for Castro. The whole operation was meant to rough up a blue state and its citizens. An unforgivable abuse of power by Trump.

Yes. Anti-ICE, and anti-Republican weaponization of government by a 97% Democrat-weaponized FBI, DOJ, IRS and other federal agencies.
Tha's been obvious for many years now. The Democrat-Bolshevik party.

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You misuse the 97 percent figure to mislead WB. That 97 percent is only contributions from 2016 for 200 dollars or more. Most people don’t contribute to political campaigns at all. Less than 2 percent of DOJ employees made any political contributions in 2016. To say that 97 percent of the DOJ is democrats is just factually a lie.

You go on and repeat conspiracy stories that certainly haven’t been proven. The gop fought like hell not to have any Jan 6 committee and government employees have been fired for just having worked on jobs that they were assigned to do. As has been brought up before your side has never used the courts to prove your case. Lying on Fox isn’t the same as lying under oath and having to contend with discovery. And you support the corruption. Otherwise you would want and expect Trump to prove his load of bullshit. But you don’t.

Castro of course is innocent till proven guilty in a court of law but the video evidence shows what happened. He wasn’t attacked and his detailed fight was something he fabricated. I compare what you say about the Jan 6 law enforcement that were actually attacked and then to your defense of Castro and it’s clear you only support law enforcement if it helps your fraudster.


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I’m also not anti immigration but because of a corrupt administration ICE has been used as a weapon against its own citizens. Borders need to be secured but it needs to be done responsibly and having masked thugs using excessive or lethal force on human beings with little legal consequences is where we’re at now. They have become a force to install fear on us instead of serving us. That’s going to change and those that have been using excessive force will have to face consequences eventually.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
You misuse the 97 percent figure to mislead WB. That 97 percent is only contributions from 2016 for 200 dollars or more. Most people don’t contribute to political campaigns at all. Less than 2 percent of DOJ employees made any political contributions in 2016. To say that 97 percent of the DOJ is democrats is just factually a lie.

You go on and repeat conspiracy stories that certainly haven’t been proven. The gop fought like hell not to have any Jan 6 committee and government employees have been fired for just having worked on jobs that they were assigned to do. As has been brought up before your side has never used the courts to prove your case. Lying on Fox isn’t the same as lying under oath and having to contend with discovery. And you support the corruption. Otherwise you would want and expect Trump to prove his load of bullshit. But you don’t.

Castro of course is innocent till proven guilty in a court of law but the video evidence shows what happened. He wasn’t attacked and his detailed fight was something he fabricated. I compare what you say about the Jan 6 law enforcement that were actually attacked and then to your defense of Castro and it’s clear you only support law enforcement if it helps your fraudster.

Corrupt FBI director Christopher Wray in Senate testimony admitted that in the Biden years, 40% of all FBI agents were assigned to "domestic terrorism", to pursue and harass the made-up fake "terrorist threat" of Republican conservatives.
5,000 (of FBI's 38,000 total agents) ALONE were assigned to maliciously prosecute the innocent Jan 6th protesters. They were all arrested in 6 AM raids at gunpoint with their doors smashed in, at a cost of roughly $1.5 million dollars EACH, and mostly held in jail, without charges, without arraignment, without due process, and without any access to attorneys in many cases, and intimidated and forced to sign confessions to crimes they never committed.
Plus FBI persecution of peaceful abortion activists, of parents voicing objection to "woke" indoctrination in their schools, FBI infiltration and spying on Catholic churches, and no doubt other churches.
And weaponization of IRS against churches going back to Obama in 2010-2012, to rig and narrowly win the 2012 election by weaponization of federal agencies.
And emboldened by getting away with it in 2012, went on to far greater federal weaponization in 2016-2024.

The fact that 274 undercover "plainclothes" FBI agents participated in framing 1,500 almost entirely innocent Trump protesters on January 6th, participated in the absurdly overkill armed 6 AM raids on every one of them (as opposed to just phoning them, and asking them to surrender to an FBI office, accompanied at an appointed time with their attorney, for the normally piddly $300 fine offense of "trespassing", rather than 1,500 overkill show-boat armed FBI 6 AM raids on each of their homes and families), EVERY ONE OF these FBI agents participated in holding them in terrible prison conditions without trial, without legal counsel, participated in overcharging, intimidating and maliciously prosecuting innocent persons, that they KNEW to be innocent, but eagerly exploited for national Democrat propaganda purposes as "violent insurrectionists".
And NOT ONE of these 274 false-flag Trump-framing "plainclothes" agents, NOT ONE of these 5,000 FBI prosecutors of Jan 6th prisoners went public in 2 and a half years, till finally despite them, Tucker Carlson aired the Capitol surveillance video in mid-2023 on national television.
These THOUSANDS of FBI agents, 40% of the entire FBI, never went public to expose what a vast rogue FBI was doing.

Or with the Gretchen Whitmer FBI fake kidnapping sting.
Or the FBI weaponization against Trump, in the Mar A Lago raid, and then in the FOUR malicious fake cases against Trump WHILE HE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
FBI going after dozens of Trump administration officials, FBI gong after dozens of Trump organization and Mar A Lago employees, FBI going after abortion activists, FBI going after parents at PTA meetings, FBI infiltrating and spying on Catholic churches, and other churches.

And everyone at FBI was silent on all this for years.

THAT leads me to believe it was not "just a handful of FBI agents who made Democrat political donations", that it was instead pretty much the entire FBI that went Democrat-Bolshevik and was totally on board for ALL these abuses.
If they were not ideological and malicious Democrat-Bolsheviks, at least SOME of these FBI agents who witnessed all these abuses, would have been disgusted by these abuses and reported them a long time ago.
It would NOT have taken 10 to 20 years to be exposed and reported.
That it took 10 to 20 years to even be discovered, manifests massive Democrat-Bolshevik loyalty and cover-up inside the FBI, not just "a few" agents.

And it's the same in DOJ, in the State Department, in IRS, and other federal intelligence and law enforcement agencies.

Former secretary of state Mike Pompeo cited his frustration of being unable to get anything done in his own State Department, so infested as it was with Democrat-partisan bureaucrats who would stonewall and block and slow-walk orders from Pompeo, or from Trump himself, when they ordered or enacted changes in the department.

A good example is when Trump in the closing 2 months of his first term in Nov 2020-Jan 2021, ordered all documents de-classified and released related to :"Russia collusion".
But DOJ and State Department bureaucrats (Democrat-Bolsheviks) sat on their hands and did not release the documents, for 2 months.
And when Biden was inaugurated, completely ignored the order to release the documents, let the clock run out, and NEVER released them.
Pompeo called his own State Department "Democrat-occupied territory".
Likewise FBI, DOJ, IRS, ATF, CIA and other federal agencies. Almost 100% Democrat-controlled.



ONLY in the most egregious cases where FBI agents showed their deeply partisan motive in e-mails and texts were about 2,000 of these agents (of the 5,000 assigned to prosecute Jan 6 prisoners, and to extort confessions from innocent people) fired by FBI director Kash Patel.
And it deeply pisses me off that the other 3,000 agents, --and probably a lot more-- Democrat-Bolsheviks in FBI, DOJ and CIA, still have their jobs.
Allowed to remain there to help a future Democrat president re-weaponize the FBI and other intelligence agencies, if / when a Democrat becomes president in the future.

AS I SAID: Hakkim Jeffries, Chuck Schumer, Kamala Harris, Susan Rice and James Carville have all boasted Democrats will do this again immediately if elected, if they EVER regain power. The Democrat-Bolshevik party, there is no more accurate way to describe a Democrat party that would do this. Or an FBI that would do this. That has been doing so since 2008.
And right after being caught and rooted out, openly boast they will immediately re-weaponize the FBI and other intelligence agencies again, if they get the chance.

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I already know how you twisted the 247 number. Kash Pattel isn’t even willing to push your false narrative and that’s saying something. You’re just doubling down on lies that you wish were true WB.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I already know how you twisted the 247 number. Kash Patel isn’t even willing to push your false narrative and that’s saying something. You’re just doubling down on lies that you wish were true WB.

247 "plainclothes" FBI agents, who were allegedly there to help Capitol police, but no Capitol Police that day EVEN KNEW THE WERE THERE.
Does that make sense?

247 "plainclothes" FBI agents, who were allegedly called up, ordered to come in, and organized between 12:40 PM on Jan 6th and 4:10 PM when President Trump aired his video telling all protesters to go home.
247 agents called in, organized, and on the ground working (completely undercover) within 3 and a half hours allegedly, but in reality there is NO WAY they could have been called up, come in and been organized in that time.
I like Kash Patel in many ways, but on this issue he is wrong, or deliberately making a false statement to protect the FBI, or maybe to placate factions within the FBI to get long-term cooperation from the 97% Democrat FBI bureaucracy for reforms and other larger issues. But on it's face, it is OBVIOUSLY a false talking point from Patel. And I am far from the only one pointing that out. Patel's narrative doesn't gel with the facts.

Those 247 "plainclothes" agents were organized and on the ground LONG before the rioting began. You could not even telephone 247 agents and tell them to come in, in just 3 and a half hours, let alone have them come in, organize them, and be on the ground in that short amount of time.
IN TRUTH, they were false flag agents, organized and deployed in advance. And you eagerly want to believe and push a false-narrative lie, just because it serves the lying talking points of your Democrat-Bolshevik party narrative.

Up to barely a year ago, you and the entire Democrat party and Deep State were in complete denial there were hundreds of false-flag FBI agents on the crowd on Jan 6th.
BUT NOW... what I and others have said, has again PROVEN TO BE TRUE, and the narrative you have propped up for 5 years is a crumbling lie.
It's ridiculous clinging to a silly and not credible lie, to now deny that the 247 "plainclothes" agents were in fact sent to frame Trump and his Jan 6th supporters, that they truly are.

But still you stubbornly cling to that lie, despite all that has been PROVEN to have actually been a lie, over the last 5 years, and especially in the last 18 months.
Trump has been vindicated.
His Jan 6th supporters have been vindicated.
The Jan 6th committee shredded 40% of their own documents and evidence (because it was all lies).
The 40,000 hours of Capitol surveillance video (maliciously suppressed by the Jan 6th Committee) has vindicated and proved the innocence of the 1,500 Jan 6th prisoners, so thoroughly that they were almost all released within days of the suppressed video's release. Undeniable evidence, that they were NOT "violent insurrectionists". PROVEN. Vindicated.

Even as your Democrat-Bolshevik party plots to overthrow the United States, and replace it with a one-party authoritarian Communist/Socialist government, and daily plots ways to shred the checks and balances in our Constitution to do so.

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You’re nuts.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
You’re nuts.

Sorry your Democrat-Bolshevik-programmed brain can't process the FACTS in front of you.

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You can’t even get Kash Patel to run with those lies Dave. You can keep lying but nobody here is fooled.


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Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
You can’t even get Kash Patel to run with those lies Dave. You can keep lying but nobody here is fooled.

The liar, accuses me of lying. typical Democrat-Bolshevik propaganda. Any number of journalists, including Julie Kelly who wrote a book about Democrat orchestration of Jan 6th by FBI, and said in a videotaped interview I linked here a few months before FBI openly admitted it, that in a typical FBI operation infiltrating protests or he 1968 Democratic national convention, that FBI typically has hundreds of undercover operatives in such an operation. And a few months later, were forced to admit it.

I JUST EXPLAINED the obvious gaps in logic between the official statement that 274 agents could be called up, assembled on the scene, and conduct operations outside the Capitol on Jan 6th. It would take 3 and a half hours at best just to call them and get them to show up on short notice. They would at best be assembling at the Capitol just as the riots were ending. No, they were contacted and placed in the crowd well before he rioting began, as false-flage agens, NOT as "plainclothes" agents to assist Capitol police (who did not even know these FBI agents were there.)

And by the way, the piece-of-shit Democrat-hijacked FBI (and 97% Democrat-donating FBI) lied for 2 and a half years about having ANY agents there undercover on Jan 6th.
Then they finally admitted to 26 agents around the Capitol, and at least 4 false-flag undercover agents inside.

And now they are admitting to 274 agents in "plainclothes" on the scene, who were there "to help Capitol police", except NO CAPITOL POLICE EVEN KNEW THEY WERE THERE.

Because this is just the latest half-baked cover up and lie "official" FBI narrative, that for some reason Kash Patel is supporting, and I already speculated some of the reasons. But if all the lying narratives for 5 years were not true, why are you so eager to believe this latest narrative that doesn't hold up to scrutiny for the reasons I detailed?

ONE REASON:
Because it supports your Democrat-Bolshevik narrative, despite that it is just the latest of a series of false statements by the FBI. I suspect they only admitted about the 274 false-flag "plainclothes" agents as damage control, because it was going to come out anyway.
And admitted that much to get out in front of it.
But it is CLEARLY not the full story, just a narrative put out to protect the FBI from (they hope) more scrutiny and scandal.

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You can keep on lying Dave but it’s a pretty pathetic lie. Kash Patel isn’t going to lie for a huge democratic conspiracy. And the conspiracy was too dumb to believe to begin with.


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Dave's hitting both new levels of Dunning Krueger and cognitive dissonance at the same time. You have to give him credit for that.

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