Originally Posted by Matter-eater Man
I think he’s made it clear that only certain people should have rights. Fortunately there seems to be enough republicans who understand that if they’re not for everyone that also endangers their rights. Trump wouldn’t have otherwise gotten rid of Bovino. It’s really just arranging the deck chairs on the titatanic though. It’s still the same rotten administration that was willing to try to label Goode and Pretti as terrorists.


That's puting A TON of words in my mouth that I never said (i.e., you're a liar. )

Everyone should have the same 2nd Amendment rights. In this case, what I ACTUALLY said is Alex Pretti abused the terms of concealed carry.

You have a right to carry, but there are RULES for concealed carry, and when you fight with cops while carrying a handgun, and you thrash around and make them think you are about to fire on them, they will open fire first, and they did. It increasingly looks like a justified shooting, in self-defense.
No normal person can watch the multiple videos of Pretti revealed so far, and seriously allege this guy was "peaceful" or non-threatening.

And everyone should have the same free speech rights. But free speech is the right to speak your opinion publicly.
It is NOT the right to intimidate into silence others who disagree with you, NOT the right to come to Conservative free speech events or churches and shout them down and silence them at their own event.
]I is NOT the right to use violence, or the threat of violence, to intimidate ICE and Border Patrol agents or other government officials, or intimidate judges, or conservative, moderates, or liberal citizens. That is NOT a right, or free speech, or Constitutional. that is Leninism/Stalinism or Maoism. Or Nazism. Mob rule. Your side calls Trump and ICE and Border Patrol "Nazis", but is it YOU,THE DEMOCRATS, who adopt Nazi tactics of militancy, violence, intimidation, and attempting to snuff out free speech of any who oppose or disagree with you.




The fat hispanic lady on CNN (I think her name is Anna Navarro) said of Alex Pretti "This is a guy where everything about him looks perfect, that any mother would want her daughter to date". No, he looks in the videos like an out of control rage-aholic.
I guess Anna wants her daughter in a relationship with a wife-beater.

On Laura Ingraham last night, she had a lawyer with some expertise on 2nd Amendment concealed-carry issues, and she asked the lawyer, "Should someone with a concealed carry license bring their gun to a protest?"

And the lawyer answered "Well, frankly, if I went to a protest, I probably would be carrying. But I wouldn't get in a physical confrontation with police."
The point being, if you are going to physically fight police, then you should leave your gun at home.




This Alex Pretti guy not only picked a fight with police and physically confronted them, spitting at them, screaming profanity and insults at them, kicking their vehicles and smashing the tali-light on their SUV, and in every way trying to provoke police to come after him.
A week or so after his earlier video-recorded clashes, Pretti on Sunday grabbed at Border Patrol agents when a BP agent pushed another aggressive female protester to the ground because she was blocking the agents from doing their job. And when Pretti jumped in to to clash with an agent, thrashing around as the agent, and more agents, tried to arrest him, eventually Pretti's weapon became visible, and given his aggressiveness, an agent yelled "Gun, gun", and fearing for their safety with a violent armed aggressor, an agent opened fire.

After 5 days now of new video evidence and details against Pretti coming out, it becomes increasingly clear this guy wasn't peaceful and non-threatening, he was out there multiple times (on video) doing his best to provoke a fight wih ICE and BP agents.
Even Preti's parents two weeks ago advised him NOT to do... exactly what he did. And combined with being very angry and aggressive toward Border Patrol and ICE, Pretti was carrying enough bullets for a prolonged firefight. Or to slaughter multiple agents.




Originally Posted by M E M
Fortunately there seems to be enough republicans who understand that if they’re not for everyone that also endangers their rights.

That's crap. These are pandering RINO Republicans, who are caving in to the radical Left, who are afraid to take a stand for their conservative voters, who specifically elected them to support Trump's policy, securing the border, and deporting illegals. Litterally, the number one issue in polls, in 2024, and now.

Sen. Tom Tillis and Sen. Susan Collins fail to see that caving in to the Left just projects weakness that will inevitably make the rioting and attacks spread to countless other cities.
These rioters who are harassing ICE and BP agents should be aggressively stopped and jailed, not caved in to.
Is it easier to deal with confrontations like this in Minneapolis? Or after it spreads to 100 more cities nationwide? The George Floyd effect. Any weakness or deference to the mob, just emboldens the mob.


Regarding Greg Bovino, he has for decades been an officer in charge of Border Patrol, and in the last few months was brought in to ICE operations in several cities like L.A., New Orleans and Minneapolis to assist in ICE operations o arres criminal illegals released in major cities. But Bovino is a senior officer in Border Patrol, at some point would be re-assigned back, and has simply been returned to Border Patrol. He hasnt't been demoted or fired, he's simply been returned to command his region in Border Patrol, rather than continue doing ICE work he was temporarily assigned to assist with.



What you refer to as the "same rotten administration", has secured the border in an incredible 6 months, and stopped the flow of 12 to 15 million completely unvetted illegals who invaded during Biden's 4 years. And further has made the border the most secure it has been since Eisenhower was president.
And has simultaneously vastly cut the amount of drugs smuggled into the U.S,, and vastly cut the number of drug overdose deaths in he U.S., and other related crime.

It is THE DEMOCRAT party that is rotten and corrupt, they want rigged elections, using illegal immigrants to pad the population census for Democrat House districts, and who will vote overwhelmingly Democrat if allowed to, at a ratio of close to 100%, despite that they will not assimilate, and will be disproportionately welfare recipients and national security risks, and as is very much in the news, who are predatory criminals.
This is part of the Democrat party's push for a Bolshevik revolution, to rig the system and create a Democrat one-party authoritarian Socialist-Marxist state. The devastation they created under Biden, they will bring back with a vengeance if the Democrat-Bolsheviks ever regain power.

They want to make us over into Venezuela.