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Probably not federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison for Bolton.
Probably a softer country club version of prison for him.

Bu if it were Donald Trump, or any of the people in the Trump administration, as FBI, DOJ and Merrick Garland went after from 2021-2024, it would definitely have been maximum federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.
You saw that for 4 years, where DOJ really went after Trump, after Jan 6th prisoners who almost all were guilty of nothing more than "trespassing" (and even that much was false-flag FBI entrapment, geofencing, moving away the barricades these protesters never knew had previously been there, Capitol police inviting them in holding the entrance double doors wide open for protesters), , PTA parents just objecting to woke indoctrination of their children, and very passive pro-life activists, that DOJ hit with everything they had,



And if DOJ wanted to, they could also prosecute not just John Bolton, but also Joe Biden, Barack Obama, George W. Bush, and pretty much EVERY OTHER past cabinet official, of both parties, back to maybe George Washington. No one ever even thought of prosecuting officials for keeping classified documents, until it became a contrived way for the Deep State to go after Trump with everything they've got.
But all these other people, even with no presidential authority to even have classified documents outside of a SCIF... perfectly OK !!
Bolton seemed very indifferent to national security with classified documents.

But then, so did Joe Biden, so did Bill Clinton, and Hillary Clinton, and Bill Richardson, Sandy Berger, and...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bolton#2025_indictment

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I'm going to skip over your mind-blowing revisionism of January 6th for a moment and talk about John Bolton.

I never liked John Bolton's politics or view of the world. He struck me as a warmonger who was not afraid of the exercise of unipolar power in the most Machiavellian way. Pax Americana worked because "America is great because it is good" (a quote often falsely attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville) and so because it was fundamentally good, American presidents exercised restraint. Bolton was not cut from that cloth. He was a neocon imperialist. He came across as a patriot in the worst possible way.

When Bolton joined Trump's cabinet, I was very apprehensive about it. I remember thinking, would the feeble-minded and impulsive Trump be swayed towards an attack on Iran or Cuba or North Korea? But like most cabinet members in Trump's first term, he walked away pretty quickly.

As to the veracity of the charges, I don't have a view other than to say I don't doubt that an American court got it wrong. (As an aside, American judges, in my view, seem incorruptible even if, by Anglo-Commonwealth standards, politically partisan. I don't understand how judges are voted in, incidentally. Judges shouldn't be appointed on a political platform.)


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Was not ever a Bolton fan but liked that even he wasn’t going to along with all the Trump crap. That said it sounds like he was guilty of keeping a diary with classified material that he knew was crossing a line. I have no expectation that this would to a Trump ally though. This administration is thoroughly corrupt and self serving. Judges shouldn’t be political but not sure how any system could avoid that. It is sad that right now it’s basically the only check this country has on this administration. I’m hopeful that the midterms will change the balance of power and fearful at the same time that we’re not going to have election results counted where republicans have control of state legislatures. The playbook will be accusing the results as fraud and then republican legislators installing the losers in their states to retain power. That’s what they wanted to do in 2020 and they might have the people in place to do that now.


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Originally Posted by First Amongst Daves
I'm going to skip over your mind-blowing revisionism of January 6th for a moment and talk about John Bolton.


Respectfully, I've given abundant explanation and sources to support what I've said.

And you're on the other side of the planet, and probably getting your "facts" through the filter of a news media even more liberal / Left biased than that in the U.S.
What I say is a fact about the January 6th protests. EASILY verified.

That over 90% of the protesters did absolutely nothing wrong, and were steamrolled over by a 97% fanatically Democrat-aligned FBI and DOJ, who contrived made-up fake charges of "trespassing" and "interrupting a federal proceeding" into FEDERAL charges, with Federal imprisonment, for what should have been at most a $300 fine for each person.
Barricades were moved aside that these people never even saw.
Capitol Police held open the double-doors to two of the three Capitol entrances, that police held wide open, inviting these protesters in. All captured on video.
As Capitol surveillance video PROVED, these people wandered in the Capitol INVITED by police, and virtually all of them just wandered though as if they were on a guided tour, no vandalism, no violence.
When he video was released 2 and a half years after Jan 6th, ha proof cause virtually all prisoners to be immediately released.

And outside on Jan 6th, police fired tear gas and concussion grenades into the up-till-then PEACEFUL crowds, over and over, until finally the crowd began to fight back. I'm convinced that the overwhelming majority that day were peaceful protesters. and the ones stoking violence were undercover FBI, Antifa, or other police and federal agents.

FBI have ADMITTED to sending these at least 274 agents into the crowd on Jan 6th . And on top of that, Antifa, and DHS, and DC Metro police, and other groups, disguised as Trump supporters. Some have (John Earle Sullivan, and his Antifa group of 20 or so, ON CAMERA in their own videos) admitted at this point they were sent there to smear and provoke Trump supporters to violence, who overwhelmingly did NOT take the bait.

An army of undercover false-flag FBI agents, and undercover DC Metro police, and false-flag Antifa, and false-flag DHS agents, ALL this I've sourced.

All this was denied by FBI, for 5 years.
And then they finally admitted to 274 "plainclothes" false-flag undercover agents sent to frame Trump supporters on Jan 6th (probably only admitted by FBI because Julte Kelly or Miranda Devine or both were going to report the evidence, so they came out and admitted it, after 5 years of FBI denying it, just to get in front of the story, to minimize the damage to a corrupt Democrat-weaponized FBI.)

Further evidence, what FBI did to frame Trump for 10 years now.
And to frame Michael Flynn.
The White House Oval Office meeting on January 5 2021, where Barack Obama, Joe Biden, James Comey, John Brennan, Susan Rice, James Clapper, Sally Yates, and white house chief of staff Denis McDonough, ALL conspired to frame Michael Flynn. Notes on the meeting by both Sally Yates and Susan Rice confirm it.

Andrew McCabe.
Peter Srzok and Lisa Page.
And about 25 others in executive positions at the FBI.
For TEN YEARS. The facts proving this are well known.



And then many of these same people were involved in "Twittergate", after being fired or resigning from FBI, took executive positions at Google, Facebook, Twitter and other social media giants, to work hand-in-glove with their counterparts still at the FBI, to illegally suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story, to rig the 2020 election for Joe Biden.




And since Trump was inaugurated, "Arctic Frost" was revealed where Jack Smith and DOJ/FBI were doing surveillance of he comunicaions and phone calls of he highest-ranking Republican members of he Senae and House. Which is FBI "Crossfire Hurricane" part II, EVEN AFTER he rats-nest was cleared out after James Comey, Anfrew McCabe, Peer Srzok, Lisa Page, Kevin Kleinsmith, James Baker and all the res were either fired or forced to resign.

And less than 2 months ago, Susan Rice in an television interview said the Democrats are eager to DO IT AGAIN if they regain power, another purge using FBI and DOJ to go after heir enemies with lawfare against Republicans. AGAIN: he averaage person spends at least $450,000 in legal defense against an FBI with limitless resources. And if you don't have the cash for that defense, you are found guilty. In he case of Michael Flynn, he spent $ 6 million on his legal defense. A wealthy man, who was bankrupted, and then had to mortgage his house to continue his legal defense. And then, bankruped, FBI hreatened to prosecute and imprison his son, pushing him to finally sign a plea bargain. Even Trump supporters who were found innocent, FBI /DOJ went after them again with endless indictment after indicment, not about justice, but a weaponized legal system used to punish political opponents, with a fanatical zeal. Only Trump giving these 1,500 people pardons finally put an end to this persecution.

You as a lawyer, who understands rule of law, and while somewhat blinded by Lefist ideology, I still respect as an ethical person... do you SUPPORT that ?!?
Or do you recognize that as a striking abuse of power, and flat-out Bolshevism?

That they are salivating to unleash again, if they are successful in getting a House or Senate majority. And / Or the presidency.



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I never liked John Bolton's politics or view of the world. He struck me as a warmonger who was not afraid of the exercise of unipolar power in the most Machiavellian way. Pax Americana worked because "America is great because it is good" (a quote often falsely attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville) and so because it was fundamentally good, American presidents exercised restraint. Bolton was not cut from that cloth. He was a neocon imperialist. He came across as a patriot in the worst possible way.

When Bolton joined Trump's cabinet, I was very apprehensive about it. I remember thinking, would the feeble-minded and impulsive Trump be swayed towards an attack on Iran or Cuba or North Korea? But like most cabinet members in Trump's first term, he walked away pretty quickly.

Bolton is a neo-con hardliner, I only liked that enemy nations were afraid of John Bolton. He was a cartoon of eagerness to go to war, every time, in the W. Bush administration.

Then Trump took Bolton in as an advisor for a few months in his 2017 administration, gave him a chance to voice his side in Oval Office policy debates, but he was quickly fired, and Bolton clearly held a grudge and attacked Trump at every turn for rejecting him after that.
Same as James Comey.
Same as Marjorie Taylor-Green. And as several others.



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As to the veracity of the charges, I don't have a view other than to say I don't doubt that an American court got it wrong. (As an aside, American judges, in my view, seem incorruptible even if, by Anglo-Commonwealth standards, politically partisan. I don't understand how judges are voted in, incidentally. Judges shouldn't be appointed on a political platform.)

Bolton was under investigation for some time, even before Trump was inaugurated, by Joe Biden's DOJ and FBI.
It's pretty straightforward, Bolton wrote a book using classified information, he needed to get security clearance for the material he sourced, but he published classified information, not having been cleared to do so.


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