Horrible news and I hope they catch anyone involved. Another democratic lawmaker and his wife have been also been shot. Oh and fuck any maga thoughts and prayers. They are worthless nothings.
The facts are not fully in yet, but the guy looks to me like a Leftist radical Democrat, who is attacking Democrats who dissented and voted against Tim Walz's policy in Minnesota, and THAT is the reason he went after these Democrats.
I think it is likely the shooter is just pure nuts, along the lines of Jared Loughner or the Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter. Or the shooter at the Washington DC Congressional baseball game a few years ago. All Democrats (the Congressional baseball game shooter, Hodgekinson, was a Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer.) But ultimately in all three cases, just pure nuts. But pumped up by Democrat rhetoric. Or Luigi Mangione, another Leftist who pointlessly for ideological reasons shot the CEO of United Health Care, and left 2 young children without a dad.
If there was ANYTHING to identify the current Minnesota shooter as a Republican, it would have been instantly released to the news media. But like so many liberal shooters, it's been a few days now, and because the shooter's media posts DON'T point to a "right wing" ideology on the part of the shooter, blue city police are not disclosing the shooter's posts and messages, and will hide those posts as long as possible, maybe forever. Because it doesn't fit their narrative.
The trannie's diatribe manifesto buried forever in a vault somewhere by Democrat police and city officials. Because her journal manifests a hatred and rage against Christians, and transgender identity motivated the crime. So those posts will NEVER be released, they don't fi the Left's desired narrative. But if it were a conservative who did the shooting, their manifesto and online posts would be released in the first hour !
The assassin was an evangelical, registered republican who voted for Trump who had a hit list of democrats that included Waltz. GOP influencers ignored those facts and ran with conspiracy theories about Hortman being targeted because of one vote. Never mind the other elected democrat and wife he tried to murder or all the other democrats on the hit list. Some Republican officials have been shameful with their reaction to this btw like Mike Lee who made jokes about it while pushing lies. He’s since deleted his posts but what an awful and evil thing to do.
What about the shooter having hundreds of "No Kings" rally fliers in his car? Police said the night of the shooting, this guy surveiled the homes of four of his targets, and actually made attacks on two homes.
The first post was captioned "This is what happens When Marxists don't get their way" and the second says "Nightmare on Waltz street," seemingly blaming Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz for the shootings
Very mild, relative to how Democrats over the last 20 years consistently wish Republican leaders like Trump to be dead.
And when Republicans actually die or are murdered, often at the hands of leftists as I detailed examples of above, Democrats gleefully celebrate their deaths, and call it "a good start", openly calling for more Republicans to be killed. So spare me the sanctimony. No one on the Republican side is celebrating or endorsing these attacks, or attacks on other Democrats. As I said, these are Democrats who recently opposed Democrat legislation, so I don't see the motive for a Republican/conservative to go after them. .
Some Republican officials have been shameful with their reaction to this btw like Mike Lee who made jokes about it while pushing lies. He’s since deleted his posts but what an awful and evil thing to do.
Ex-CNN correspondent Jim Acosta joked in an interview posted Monday about President Donald Trump’s deceased former wife’s burial site and called her an example of an immigrant “doing the jobs that Americans don’t want to do.”
I could pull up at least 1,000 similar comments equally vile from the Democrat / Left, that have absolutely no compassion for Republicans/Conservatives, and actually are gleeful about their deaths, and even encourage the murder of more Republicans. Going back to Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, Rush Limbaugh, the Congressional baseball game shooting, on and on. Up to and including current polls that show and overwhelming majority of Democrats favor and think it would be "moral" to kill Donald Trump, and only slightly less for the potential assassination of Elon Musk. And not just a few random Democrat crazies, in a recent poll,48% of self-identified Democrat-Leftists say it would be justified to assassinate Elon Musk. And a further 55% endorse assassinating President Trump Perfectly okay !! https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2...-support-killing-trump-and-musk-n4938661 https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/survey-leftists-murder/2025/04/07/id/1205956/
And not just fringe grassroots Democrats or leftist protesters, but those at the very core and top of the Democrat-Bolshevik party. Such as Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Maxine Waters, Cory Booker, Rashida Tlaib, A O-C, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Robert Reich, Jennifer Rubin, Ayanna Presssley, on and on. And I've shown video-clips of them openly inciting violence against Republicans on many occasions here on RKMB. Not just one or a few Democrats, but pretty much the entire Democrat party, and their like-minded brethren in George Orwell's liberal media.
Mike Lee is a pos. Instead of acting like an elected official he revealed what a vile person he truly is. Jokes a day or two after someone has been assassinated are not tame.
What about the shooter having hundreds of "No Kings" rally fliers in his car? Police said the night of the shooting, this guy surveiled the homes of four of his targets, and actually made attacks on two homes.
The first post was captioned "This is what happens When Marxists don't get their way" and the second says "Nightmare on Waltz street," seemingly blaming Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz for the shootings
Very mild, relative to how Democrats over the last 20 years consistently wish Republican leaders like Trump to be dead.
And when Republicans actually die or are murdered, often at the hands of leftists as I detailed examples of above, Democrats gleefully celebrate their deaths, and call it "a good start", nd aopenly call for more Republicans to be killed. So spare me the sanctimony. No one on the Republican side is celebrating or endorsing these attacks, or attacks on other Democrats. As I said, these are Democrats who recently opposed [Minnesoa state] Democrat legislation, so I don't see the motive for a Republican/conservative to go after them.
... those are Mike Lee's exact quoted comments, and I don't see where they make him a "P O S", or "vile".
They were tame, relative to Democrats' CONSISTENT celebrations of death of Republicans over the last 20-plus years, from up and down the heirarchy of the Democrat-Bolshevik party, from Democrat grassroots to the Democrat leadership, they consistently say the most TRULY vile things about Republicans, gleefully celebrate deaths of Republicans, gleefully call murder of Republicans, and call any violence on Republicans "a good start". Now, THAT is truly vile, and endorsing violence. You don't see that on the Republican side.
Senator Mike Lee said: "This is what happens when Marxists don't get their way". It is a demonstrable fact that Democrats, riot, loot, intimidate and commit violence when they don't get their way. The current L.A. riots against ICE arrests and orchestrated "No Kings" riots in cities nationwide, with organized dropping of pallettes of bricks on straegic streetcorners near federal buildings and police, and distribution of gas masks and other riot-inciting gear, further make the point.
I don't see where that is "extreme" or "vile" for Mike Lee to cite that absolute truth of these facts, his saying so is just accurate.
As compared with TRULY P O S Senator Chuck Schumer's comments about Brett Kavanaugh and Samuel Alito, inciting violence against them, that P O S Schumer HAS NEVER APOLOGIZED OR RETRACTED, inciting violence against conservative U S S C justices : "You have reaped he whirlwind, and you will pay the price." Now, THAT is truly "vile".
Senator Mike Lee's other comment, that the shootings are "Nightmare on Walz Street" is an acknowledgement that the Minnesota political shootings are awful criminal behavior, a nightmare, but that it has occurred in Minnesota under Walz's governor jurisdiction, and implies that his radical leftist policies, letting an entire Minneapolis police station burn down in the George Floyd riots in 2020, letting FIVE SQUARE MILES OF DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS be burned and looted a few nights later, Governor Walz just sitting on his hands and letting all this happen, letting the riots spread to 600 cities nationwide.
Walz's incendiary rhetoric in the last month calling for "fighting in the streets" in resistance and revolution against Trump.
And Walz's rhetoric JUST A FEW DAYS AGO about how the Democrat party needs to "get mean" against Trump... ALL seems like rhetoric that could have incited these shootings.
And that's not even getting into Tim Walz's love affair with China and Maoism, and endorsing China's brand of violent suppression of all dissenting thought. Or Tim Walz's own wife posting online about how she cheers on the 2020 rioting in Minneapolis, and enjoys the smell of burning tires from the rioting. Comments that Tim Walz has never addressed, never condemned, never dissented from.
Add to that, "Nightmare on Walz Street" also is arguably spot-on in another way, that the security camera photos of the killer show a guy who literally looks like the horrific boogey-man killers in the movies Halloween, Friday the 13th, or Nightmare on Elm Street. The shooter literally has the exact look of any of those slasher-film killers.
So... while Mike Lee, a more sensitive man than myself, retracted his remarks and deleted them from social media, I would not have. And Mike Lee was in fact a potential U S supreme Court nominee in Trump's first term, so accomplished and respected he is as a legal scholar. Far from a "P O S".
Yep making vile jokes after a successful assignation attempt is crossing a line that forced Lee to delete them. This only happened because what Lee did was so vile that even less partisan than you republicans are repulsed. He certainly doesn’t have to worry about a democrat unseating him in state wide election in Utah but another less trashy republican or independent certainly could.
when all the rich and powerful folks get together on the weekend, after their day jobs as news anchors and politicians and social media owners and such....
(im assuming, like, seated in adirondack chairs, around a firepit burning money, holding flute glasses with champagne made out of children's souls)
i figure they'd have at least one moment of commiseration. like "hey, so, .. they're coming after us now."
and maybe trump would giggle while noting he was able to dodge. and the remaining minnesota folks would give a "this guy!" head-shake-and-smirk combo. but in the end, they'd collectively conclude that murder attempts were bad for business. that seems like a solid, low-bar, "let's agree on this" perspective.
and maaaaybe someone suggested they draw some attention to, like.... iran, or something. but that's besides the point.
the point is stuff has escalated in the last half a dozen years or so. from insurrections, to hammers, to assassination attempts. hell, other countries have had impeachments and martial law threats, too. it's not good for any of them, or any of us. and i'd think reasonable enough to suggest the volume dip to, like, seven outta ten.
I'd agree that it's wise whenever possible to lower the political volume, and both sides not go for the jugular every time they can. And I think it's the nature of the very internet forum we're posting these comments on to constantly escalate that volume.
But I ask the question: How do we as reasonable people lower the volume with a Democrat-Bolshevik party that makes crystal clear their goal is to not just win elections for their side, but to "destroy the Republican party so completely they can never come back"? (that's an exact quote from Jennifer Rubin, then of the New York Times).
How do we as reasonable people on the conservative right deal with a Democrat-socialist Left that wants the "fundamental transformation of America" (Barack Obama, 2008, 5 days before the presidential election).
A Democrat-agent cabal that weaponized the FBI and other federal agencies to arrest, intimidate and imprison their political opponents. After FBI faking FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign and incoming Trump administration in 2016-2017 , a fake FBI counter-intelligence investigation into "Russia collusion", a House investigation, a Senate investigation, a fake Meuller special investigation. Then when all that didn't work for Democrats, in 2019-2021 a fake CIA-orchestrated "whiistleblower report", and two fake House impeachments of Trump. Then in 2021-2024 the Biden administration and a Democrat-occupied corrupt FBI orchestrated FOUR attempts to maliciously prosecute Donald Trump, to put him in jail for a cumulative 600 years on made-up fake charges, and arbitrarily charged him to pay close to a billion dollars in fines. Charges and fines that arguably no other politician would have the financial resources to withstand and go on to have a second term as president, as Trump did.
And when that failed, there were two attempted assassinations of Trump, just two months apart, right before the 2024 election, to further prevent him from becoming president, that appear to have been plotted, or at least enabled, by Democrat-Bolsheviks in the FBI, Secret Service and other federal agencies.
And I can't name a single Democrat House, Senate, cabinet advisor, presidential candidate or consultant who isn't totally on board with these Democrat weaponizations to overthrow Trump. If you know of one, JUST ONE, please name them.
And JUST TODAY, and pretty much every day, every week, every month, every year for literally 10 years, Democrats make it clear they would impeach Trump again, on any contrived charge, if they had even a one-vote House majority. Impeach, or worse. I've posted polls, that from the grass roots to the very top of the DNC, a majority of Democrats are completely on board with assassinating Trump, and even call it "morally right" when polled. And "morally right" (as polled) to kill Elon Musk as well.
How do you have a civil dialogue with these people? Not just a fringe or a majority in the DNC, but by all appearances the entire Democrat party? They are of the same authoritarian mentality as Putin's Russia, Xi Xinping's China, and similar authoritarian regimes. They will promise in speeches to play nice with Republicans, but if given the slightest power, will immediately weaponize federal agencies again, to permanently destroy all political opposition. As I've cited many times, members of the Clinton, Obama and Biden administrations OPENLY QUOTE Lenin, Stalin, Che Gueverra, Hugo Chaves, Castro, Mao and the like, many as I've cited, while holding cabinet positions in the Obama administration (Anita Dunn, Van Jones, Mark Lloyd, Ron Bloom, etc.) Or writing their incendiary calls for authoritarian takeover in the New York Times and Washington Post after leaving the Clinton administration (Robert Reich).
And when they weaponize government to go after Donald Trump, and his cabinet officials, and to go after thousands of peaceful January 6th protesters, and after PTA protesters against "woke" indoctrination in local schools, and after peaceful pro-life activists, where each one has been arrested and has to pay at least $400,000 to 700,000 to defend themselves against made-up weaponized fake FBI charges, that is not where it ends.
As I've cited repeatedly, they want to set up a Democrat "socialist" one-party system, with a weaponized legal system, with a weaponized FBI, with a weaponized IRS, and even a weoponized federalized election system (titled House Resolution 1, while Democrats had the House majority, making clear its extreme priority as the first thing on their agenda) so that in future elections the federal government, not individual states as has been the case for 250 years, have total control of elections, and the minority party (that'll be Republicans, forever more, if Democrats ever pass HR-1) won't even have the ability to dispute or contest any unfair future election. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hr1-for-the-people-act-changes-deadline RPC article, on Democrats' proposed HR-1 bill, chilling free speech and free elections
As Trump says, it doesn't end with just getting him. Once Democrats eliminate him (the only obstacle to their authoritarian one-party rule, because other Republicans have shown for 20 years they are too timid to oppose the push for Democrat one-party rule) the Democrat-Bolsheviks will then be coming for all of us, for anyone who resists their one-party authoritarian system. Or as Trump recurringly says in his speeches: "They're not coming for me, they're coming for you, and I'm just standing in their way."
With Democrats who are openly pushing for a one-party authoritarian system, where only they are allowed to voice an opinion, and any dissenting opinion is shut down or intimidated into silence? If I posted this same opinion (and I have) on Youtube, Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat or other forums, my account would be closed or shadow-banned to silence me. They even close the accounts of Republican Senators, House members, Trump cabinet officials, and Trump himself !! Absolute fact. Rep. Jim Jordan, Rep. Devin Nunes, Rep Mark Meadows, Rep. Ron DeSantis, and pretty much every Republican who ever belonged to either the former Tea Party, or the current Freedom Caucus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Caucus
My point being, the calls for violence are not from both sides, the calls for violent revolution and for killing politicians are not from people escalating the rhetoric on "both sides". It is ONE SIDE tha is consistently escalating with that kind of rhetoric. And we all know which side that is. The Democrat/Left. From grassroots Democrats, to Bernie Sanders campaign volunteers, to Democrat House and Senate members, to Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Cory Booker, A O-C, Rashida Tlaib, at the very top of the Democrat food chain.
Former attorney general "when hey go low we kick 'em" Eric Holder. Under Obama, the chief law enforecement officer ! BLM, Anifa, the anti-ICE movement, and "No Kings" movement, all Soros-funded astro-turfed protests/riots orchestrated across cities nationwide, with trucks in city afer city dropping off palettes of bricks close to federal buildings, to further foment and escalate violence of hese organized protests. Just as they did in the 2020 George Floyd riots nationwide. On and on.
Up and down the Democrat heirarchy, it is THEY, not conservative Republicans, who are constantly escalating the rhetoric, since at least 2000. It is not a vague "coarsening of the culture", it is not "both sides", it is ONE SIDE, the DEMOCRAT/LEFT SIDE that is constantly escalating with the most incendiary rhetoric, and openly calling for violence, and the death of political leaders they don't like.
And if someone on the conservative/Republican side like Senator Mike Lee dares to point that out, even in a humorous context, he is labelled by the M E M's of the world as "vile" and a "P O S".
I would argue that Mike Lee would be even more liked, and re-elected by an even greater margin in his next election, if he didn't retract and take down his comments. But he chose to tone down the rhetoric, even though he gains nothing from it.
Mile Lee stood down. The Democrat-Bolsheviks, carrying effigy severed heads and guillotines invoking the French Revolution and Robespierre's reign of terror, never will. But yeah, Mike Lee is "vile".
Just pointing out also: There is no evidence to date, NONE, that this shooter was motivated to shoot these people by "right wing" rhetoric, violent or otherwise. The violent rhetoric is virtually all on the Democrat side. Certainly the worst of it.
I'd agree that it's wise whenever possible to lower the political volume, and both sides not go for the jugular every time they can.
well, great! ???? we did it, everyone! problem solved.
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But I ask the question: How do we as reasonable people lower the volume with a Democrat-Bolshevik party that makes crystal clear the...
Aww, David, come on, man. the very next paragraph...! ????
The volume is ours, dear sir. We can start here.
I assume your examples are real - haven't checked, but let’s grant benefit of the doubt. Still, for every one you cite, a channel flip or Google search will show the mirror: a different name, same extremism, just flipped politically. For every liberal who calls the orange gameshow host a dictator, there’s a conservative convinced the brown president was a foreign terrorist.
We're a mirror society - extremes on all sides, everyone convinced the other side is the problem. the challenge is that the temp rises everywhere. it leaps from spirited debate to assault on the capital quickly. and just as quickly to attacks in the driveway, or school board meetings. and as "it was the other guy" discourse begins, we miss any moment of accountability that could help. its just libs blaming conservatives, and conservatives blaming libs.
and we're talkin about the barest of baseline agreements. "Don't shoot at presidents." Check! Next? "Don't assault political figures." With a dash of "or their spouses." Sprinkle in: "Don't attack voters." "Don't cheer on assassination attempts." "Maybe don’t make jokes about successful attacks for a month." (unsuccessful ones get a week)
get a few of these baselines together, and now you've gotta stew goin baby!
the missing magic; don’t just police everyone else. agree to the rule, then hold your own to it. that’s what makes arguments invincible - not the outrage, but the integrity.
(Sorta-related: if you want to see liberals short-circuit, show them clips of the recent Cruz/Carlson chat — conservatives calling each other out. Minds will be blown.)
if we can start cleaning that up, the temperature dips. conflicts and varying points of view still there, but that's good! healthy friciton.
(Sorta-related: if you want to see liberals short-circuit, show them clips of the recent Cruz/Carlson chat — conservatives calling each other out. Minds will be blown.)
The background is Tucker is a Putin shill (Iran provides drones to Russia) and Cruz has donors who support Israel.
With politics in this shithole country, it always boils down to money.
None of the scumbags that you see in the media or Washington care about their "causes", just staying in power and keeping the grift alive.
aye true. but it almost NEVER happens in same-side callouts. at least not this public.
in particular, as trump held power, lost power, and regained power, the conservative side has seemingly stuck together in the “tow the collective line” realm (for, against, and for again prez 45 and 47 — which is as impressive as it is dangerous, or as dangerous as it is impressive)
the Cruz/tucker videos were hard to watch for liberals, because liberals likely (had to) agree with one of the sides in that standoff …and they’re two of the least likable individuals in the political realm. it made for a buncha funny tiktok clips, watching traditionally liberal podcasters watch the debate, and the admit a “oh shit. Tucker made a good point” moment.
It's WWE programming, Rob. Just another diversion from the failing economy, the environment, and a million other topics that truly effect your life.
Do you really believe anything with change because of that "argument"?
Cucker showed the Putin dickriders that he's loyal to Putin, Cruz made his lobbyists happy.
Neither of those two assholes will change policy. They're still Republican Party hacks, the end of the interview was both of them agreeing with each other about how evil "the libs" are.
Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark’s funeral was yesterday. Melissa wasn’t a firebrand and did her job representing her constituents. It goes without saying they didn’t deserve this.
Although Trump did not mention the funeral service on social media, he did post several times on Saturday, touting low gas prices and his “big, beautiful” bill.
According to Fox News, Trump spent the morning golfing with Republican senators Eric Schmitt, Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul, and CIA director John Ratcliffe.
Tells a lot about the character of those individuals.
Well going to those funerals while attacking democrats the way he does I think it’s probably a good thing he skipped it. It’s sad though that we’re well past even expecting him to be decent. And Lee took down his posts with no apology. Admitting it was wrong is apparently to high a bar.
The assassin is now claiming that he was investigating fraud and only trying to make citizens arrests when he murdered an elected official and her husband.
And saw this also via MPR… “ The federal prosecutors pointed to text messages that Boelter sent to friends and family members in which he expressed concern about Republicans losing power in Minnesota and other places where power was closely divided.
“He was aware of the party breakdown. And he knew that if he had been successful in all of his attempted murders that night, he would have killed at least two Minnesota senators ([John] Hoffman and [Ann] Rest) and at least two Minnesota House members ([Melissa] Hortman and [Kristin] Bahner), and the balance of power would have shifted in both houses of the Minnesota Legislature.”
How many elected republicans on the national level responded to this was truly shameful and disgusting. The killer targeted his victims because they were democrats and killing them would tip state control to republicans. It is very much Trump’s party.
For the billionth time: The shooter himself was a Democrat, who by his own account went after these Democrat officials because he didn't perceive them as Democrat-Left enough, and for voting against the agenda of Governor Tim Walz.
The shooter alleged that it was Tim Walz himself who instructed him to shoot these Democrat leaders. That last part might be truth or delusion, but as cited and linked already in the topic, the evidence, despite your propaganda otherwise, is that this shooter was a fanatical Democrat.
This is just as weaselly as Democrats alleging that the guy who shot Charlie Kirk was a right wing Republican Trump supporter. He was a bisexual/transgender leftist nutjob, who openly said to his own family a few weeks before the Charlie Kirk shooting that he hated Trump, and wanted Trump and Kirk to die.
It’s pretty clear who is being a weasel. This goes more in depth into the assassin’s texts from the court documents. Courtlist “ His internet and text-message history also showed a focus on the balance of power between the political parties in the Minnesota and elsewhere where power was closely divided. (Id. ¶¶ 26, 27.) He texted his friends articles about the Republican U.S. House majority being “in Danger,” commenting that “Democrats steal enough elections to tip the balance of power.” He expressed concern to a friend that in the Wisconsin legislature, Democrats “may shift 4 house seats to Democrats.” He complained to the same friend that in Minnesota “one party through questionable elections holds the house, senate, and Governor’s seat to have total control and make any laws they want.” He repeatedly searched for information about the narrowly divided Minnesota Legislature: • “how many members are there from each party ion Minnesota House of Representatives,” • “make up of the Minnesota Senate,” 14 CASE 0:25-cr-00272-JRT-DJF Doc. 57 Filed 07/21/26 Page 15 of 31 • “Current makeup of the hpouse of representatives,” • “how many frim each party in the mn senate,” and • “ratio of republicans to democrats in the MN house.” Then, at 3:42 p.m., less than 11 hours before Boelter arrived at the Hoffmans’ door, Boelter sent his family a long, rambling text message about politics. He expressed concern for “large protests planned for this Saturday all across the U.S. ” by those opposed to the president. He asked his family to “pray[] that something takes the wind out of these protest sails.” He complained about Democrats and the opponents of the president regarding the conflict with Iran, the war in Ukraine, theft of government funds, immigration policy, judicial integrity, and election integrity. (See id. ¶ 26.)”
So WB you can keep trying to deceive but it’s apparent that Vance wasn’t a democrat. He was a hyper partisan republican that saw his fellow countrymen as enemies to Trump and justified killing to try to tip the balance of power to republicans in Minnesota.
. It’s pretty clear who is being a weasel. This goes more in depth into the assassin’s texts from the court documents. Courtlist [ M E M, you might have explained that this is the U.S. Attorney's written legal case for prosecution of Boetler, but I figured that out. --WB]
“ His internet and text-message history also showed a focus on the balance of power between the political parties in the Minnesota and elsewhere where power was closely divided. (Id. ¶¶ 26, 27.) He texted his friends articles about the Republican U.S. House majority being “in Danger,” commenting that “Democrats steal enough elections to tip the balance of power.” He expressed concern to a friend that in the Wisconsin legislature, Democrats “may shift 4 house seats to Democrats.” He complained to the same friend that in Minnesota “one party through questionable elections holds the house, senate, and Governor’s seat to have total control and make any laws they want.” He repeatedly searched for information about the narrowly divided Minnesota Legislature: • “how many members are there from each party ion Minnesota House of Representatives,” • “make up of the Minnesota Senate,” [ page 14 of case document ]
CASE 0:25-cr-00272-JRT-DJF Doc. 57 Filed 07/21/26 Page 15 of 31 • “Current makeup of the hpouse of representatives,” • “how many frim each party in the mn senate,” and • “ratio of republicans to democrats in the MN house.” Then, at 3:42 p.m., less than 11 hours before Boelter arrived at the Hoffmans’ door, Boelter sent his family a long, rambling text message about politics. He expressed concern for “large protests planned for this Saturday all across the U.S. ” by those opposed to the president. He asked his family to “pray[] that something takes the wind out of these protest sails.” He complained about Democrats and the opponents of the president regarding the conflict with Iran, the war in Ukraine, theft of government funds, immigration policy, judicial integrity, and election integrity. (See id. ¶ 26.)”
So WB you can keep trying to deceive but it’s apparent that Vance wasn’t a democrat. He was a hyper partisan republican that saw his fellow countrymen as enemies to Trump and justified killing to try to tip the balance of power to republicans in Minnesota.
I'm not being a weasel. A year ago when this topic began, I posted two articles (above) that said there were a stack of flyers for the "No Kings" rally (or for several rallies) in Minnesota cities, in the shooter's car.
These articles also quoted the shooter, Vance Luther Boelter, saying he was instructed to do the killings by governor Tim Walz himself, in a scheme to eliminate Walz's poliical opposittion, and in the case of Senator Amy Klobuchar, to allow Walz to run for a deceased Klobuchar's vacated Senate seat.
The fact that Vance Boelter had been appointed for many years to a Wisconsin state advisory committee, during part of that term, by Walz himself...
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In 2016, he was appointed to the Governor's Workforce Development Board, a nonpartisan 60-member unpaid advisory board, by then-Governor of Minnesota Mark Dayton. Governor Tim Walz reappointed him to a four-year term in 2019 .
... in the opening days and weeks after Boetler's murders and attempted murders of Minnesota legislative officials, this all initially gave an air of credibility to the allegation of Walz's involvement, and an appearance that Walz and Boetler knew each other. But what investigators have found since, while Walz did appoint Boetler for his 2nd 2019-2023 period in that advisory board position, it's possible that Walz just re-appointed Boelter on someone else's recommendation, and that the two of them (Walz and Boetler) never actually met.
The "No Kings" rally fliers in his car also gave a further appearance of Boetler having another layer of connection to the Democrat side, and credibility to the allegations.
But as the U.S. Attorney's case that you linked explains, and Wikipedia explains, while it looked like Boelter was a Democrat official (he was not) , and it looked like he had a connection and motive orchestrated by Walz (he did not). And based on those data-points, he appeared to also support Democrats further, promoting with flyers and attending a "No Kings" rally (he did not). In the weeks and months after the shootings, this was still an open question.
It was only after the police and U.S. Attorney's investigation, that at some point it became clear these were deliberate misdirection laid out for police by Vance Boelter. that despite his Governor's Workforce Development Board advisory position, appointed BY GOVERNOR WALZ HIMSELF, Boetler was not a Democrat, and not close to or in a conspiracy with Tim Walz regarding the shootings. Despite appearances, that was all a frame job by Boetler.
A married and educated man with multiple degrees, who apparently over time had multiple homes and other properties, apparently wealthy at one time, and at the end unemployed and running out of cash. Multiple businesses, some of them imaginary fronts, perhaps just to feed a fantasy in his own head, Christian missionary work he dabbled in across a few towns in Democratic Republic of Congo, and in the West Bank and Gaza, and locally with African immigrants in Minnesota, managing security companies (some imaginary), managing food canneries and manufacturing. Then leaving that to manage... a gas station? A convenience store? Then re-training in recent years to work at a mortuary and embalm dead people? Then finally running out of money.
With the pastor of his church speculating that Boelter, with his life falling apart, decided to "go out with a bang" wtih the shootings, in some desperate grasp for purpose. Insane, and yet simultaneously calculated in the shootings and his preparation for them, before, during, and after. In an escape and police manhunt across multiple cities, homes, rental properties, storage bays, and when arrested, hidden crawling across a field of tall grass.
So... yeah. While the facts when this began made it look like Vance Boetler was a Democrat, a year later it's clear he was a Republican/conservative (though not with an agenda any other conservatives would support or agree with), and he was deliberately misdirecting to make it LOOK like he was a Democrat, and involved in a conspiracy with Walz. That investigators proved was a deliberate deception by Boelter. Facts that were not fully investigated or tested a year ago, when I posted those first two articles.
Glad you can acknowledge that the assassin is a republican but even in the early days his conservative background was known. Conservative influencers however quickly went to work with whatever data points they could to make him look like a democrat. His friends and family saying he was a Trump supporter and his history of being a conservative was information that got in the way of the false narrative they were pushing.
Glad you can acknowledge that the assassin is a republican but even in the early days his conservative background was known. Conservative influencers however quickly went to work with whatever data points they could to make him look like a democrat. His friends and family saying he was a Trump supporter and his history of being a conservative was information that got in the way of the false narrative they were pushing.
That is, of course, a huge over-reach on your part. This is a lone nut, whose murderous actions NO OTHER REPUBLICAN would endorse or support. He is a guy who for his entire life was a Republican conservative, but whose life and financial situation disintegrated in he last few years, and in a mentally unbalanced reach for meaning and purpose, tried to go out with a killing spree.
THAT's the difference between Republicans and the Democrat-Bolshevik party: When a Democrat kills or attempts to kill Charlie Kirk, or Donald Trump (3 times now !!), or Trump is sich with Covid-19, or the Republican baseball game shooting, or Luigi Mangione kills the CEO of United healthcare, each of these murders or attempted murders, Covid threatens president's Trump's life, is greeted by millions of Democrats with thubs-ups, videos and texts, with morbid glee and celebration, and malicious gloating. You never see that same kind of endorsement of killing, or malicious wish for death of a Democrat BY REPUBLICANS, no matter how hated the Democrat.
Conservative news media didn't "quickly [go] to work with whatever data points they could to make him look like a democrat.", this guy did his damnedest BY HIMSELF to toss out his own red herrings to MAKE IT LOOK like he was a Democrat. And it took months of legwork by federal investigators to prove that this murderer deliberately set up false clues to make his own stalkings and murders APPEAR to be a Democrat. And frankly, if I didn't read the legal case written by Federal prosecutors, and had to instead rely on the 92% Leftist / Liberal anti-Trump/.anti-Republican media, I would still be skeptical of these facts, as dishonest and Democrat-partisan as the news media has proven to be since 2008, and increasingly more rabidly so since 2016.
Conservative influencers certainly did go to work right away. It wasn’t to long before his conservative background came out. You only went with the influencers and ignored what you didn’t like. Reread the thread.
Conservative influencers certainly did go to work right away. It wasn’t to long before his conservative background came out. You only went with the influencers and ignored what you didn’t like. Reread the thread.
"Conservative influences..." What the fuck does that even mean?
AS I SAID, it was a convincing lie, and the liberal media have proven themselves untrustworhy, really since 2000, and increasingly more so with 2008, and 2016.
It was ONLY with the credibility of the U.S. attorneys' investigation, and release of their findings, that the final facts of he case could credibly be believed, and not dismissed as Democrat party spin, and hand-in-glove liberal media spin.
On this one occasion, it turned out NOT to be scheming Democrat-Bolsheviks, but only the U.S. attorneys' case had the credibility to disprove that the murderer was not a Democrat agent, as he laid false clues to make himself appear to be. The Democrat-Bolshevik party at this point has zero credibility. George Orwell's liberal media has zero credibiliy, and could also not be believed.
Only the U.S. attorneys' investigation and final summary in the case itself could overcome that lack of credibility, .
Google it WB if you really don’t know what a conservative influencer is. You seem to be using them as sources while trashing the media that tries to be more objective.
Google it WB if you really don’t know what a conservative influencer is. You seem to be using them as sources while trashing the media that tries to be more objective.
I think you're just trying to label legitimate sources who investigate and publish or broadcast actual FACTS in a dismissive category, to rationalize your deranged Leftist views.
Fox News, Newsmax, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Washington Times, National Review, American Conservative, those tend to be the sources I link.
I even sometimes post links to ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS (from 1981-2008 my news source of choice, until it became clear they'd become a hijacked propaganda arm of the DNC and the Obama campaign at that time). And I even cite and link CNN and MSNOW/MSNBC at times, to show that facts are so undeniable that even the liberal media is acknowledging them.
I fail to see how those sources fit in your propaganda disqualification category as "influencers". I think all these qualify as "legacy media" or "mainstream media" pretty squarely.
Influencers are people on the internet (such as Facebook, Twitter or Youtube) who are NOT professional journalists, who post content pretty much just to get as many subscribers and clicks as they can. Or Blog sites such as oh, say, MEDIA MATTERS that you alone post here. Or people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or Rosie O'Donnell, and the brainless fluff of Jasmine Crockett, who pretty much just pull stuff out of their asses, incendiary stuff they just make up, and post it online as if it were fact. I'd love you to list ONE SOURCE, JUST ONE, that I've posted, that fits in the same category as these liars. And your lies.
Even the kid reporter Nicholas Shirley from the Minneapolis area, who exposed Somalian immigrant healthcare and Medicare/Medicaid scams, while not technically a professional journalist, was and is working with a career independent journalist. And their findings have been verified by mainstream media and DOJ, FBI, HHS and other federal and state authorities. Much as Democrat-Bolsheviks try to silence them.
"Influencers" are more along the line of the Democrats I've cited, or vapid high school girls with Youtube followers, who give other girls tips on how to apply make-up or paint their toenails.
Google it WB if you really don’t know what a conservative influencer is. You seem to be using them as sources while trashing the media that tries to be more objective.
I think you're just trying to label legitimate sources who investigate and publish or broadcast actual FACTS in a dismissive category, to rationalize your deranged Leftist views.
Fox News, Newsmax, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Washington Times, National Review, American Conservative, those tend to be the sources I link.
I even sometimes post links to ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS (from 1981-2008 my news source of choice, until it became clear they'd become a hijacked propaganda arm of the DNC and the Obama campaign at that time). And I even cite and link CNN and MSNOW/MSNBC at times, to show that facts are so undeniable that even the liberal media is acknowledging them.
I fail to see how those sources fit in your propaganda disqualification category as "influencers". I think all these qualify as "legacy media" or "mainstream media" pretty squarely.
Influencers are people on the internet (such as Facebook, Twitter or Youtube) who are NOT professional journalists, who post content pretty much just to get as many subscribers and clicks as they can. Or Blog sites such as oh, say, MEDIA MATTERS that you alone post here. Or people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or Rosie O'Donnell, and the brainless fluff of Jasmine Crockett, who pretty much just pull stuff out of their asses, incendiary stuff they just make up, and post it online as if it were fact. I'd love you to list ONE SOURCE, JUST ONE, that I've posted, that fits in the same category as these liars. And your lies.
Even the kid reporter Nicholas Shirley from the Minneapolis area, who exposed Somalian immigrant healthcare and Medicare/Medicaid scams, while not technically a professional journalist, was and is working with a career independent journalist. And their findings have been verified by mainstream media and DOJ, FBI, HHS and other federal and state authorities. Much as Democrat-Bolsheviks try to silence them.
"Influencers" are more along the line of the Democrats I've cited, or vapid high school girls with Youtube followers, who give other girls tips on how to apply make-up or paint their toenails.
Google it WB if you really don’t know what a conservative influencer is. You seem to be using them as sources while trashing the media that tries to be more objective.
I think you're just trying to label legitimate sources who investigate and publish or broadcast actual FACTS in a dismissive category, to rationalize your deranged Leftist views.
Fox News, Newsmax, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Washington Times, National Review, American Conservative, those tend to be the sources I link.
I even sometimes post links to ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS (from 1981-2008 my news source of choice, until it became clear they'd become a hijacked propaganda arm of the DNC and the Obama campaign at that time). And I even cite and link CNN and MSNOW/MSNBC at times, to show that facts are so undeniable that even the liberal media is acknowledging them.
I fail to see how those sources fit in your propaganda disqualification category as "influencers". I think all these qualify as "legacy media" or "mainstream media" pretty squarely.
Influencers are people on the internet (such as Facebook, Twitter or Youtube) who are NOT professional journalists, who post content pretty much just to get as many subscribers and clicks as they can. Or Blog sites such as oh, say, MEDIA MATTERS that you alone post here. Or people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or Rosie O'Donnell, and the brainless fluff of Jasmine Crockett, who pretty much just pull stuff out of their asses, incendiary stuff they just make up, and post it online as if it were fact. I'd love you to list ONE SOURCE, JUST ONE, that I've posted, that fits in the same category as these liars. And your lies.
Even the kid reporter Nicholas Shirley from the Minneapolis area, who exposed Somalian immigrant healthcare and Medicare/Medicaid scams, while not technically a professional journalist, was and is working with a career independent journalist. And their findings have been verified by mainstream media and DOJ, FBI, HHS and other federal and state authorities. Much as Democrat-Bolsheviks try to silence them.
"Influencers" are more along the line of the Democrats I've cited, or vapid high school girls with Youtube followers, who give other girls tips on how to apply make-up or paint their toenails.
The kettle continues to make an ass of himself...
Is there ANYTHING resembling a point in your inssults and ass-hole-ery? No. There never is.
WB you were pushing a false narrative long after the assassin’s background as a conservative was known. This thread shows it. We just had another instance where a conservative influencer lied about Talarico was being treated for depression. You guys have always hated a free and independent press, enabling Trump to ban entire networks. Remember the huge controversy when Obama wasn’t going to let Fox be at one event? There’s a thread here about it, I believe everyone agreed that was wrong. Now Trump does it to several networks and “conservatives “ are ok with that. You don’t have principles just party loyalty.
WB you were pushing a false narrative long after the assassin’s background as a conservative was known. This thread shows it. We just had another instance where a conservative influencer lied about Talarico was being treated for depression. You guys have always hated a free and independent press, enabling Trump to ban entire networks. Remember the huge controversy when Obama wasn’t going to let Fox be at one event? There’s a thread here about it, I believe everyone agreed that was wrong. Now Trump does it to several networks and “conservatives “ are ok with that. You don’t have principles just party loyalty.
An utter shit garbage narrative on your part.
Republicans don't "hate a free press", Trump goes and takes interviews from his worst enemies in the media, on every hostile network. In sharp contrast, Biden hid in a bunker for most of his 4 years, and did very few press conferences. Likewise, Obama also did far fewer press conferences, far less accessibility to the press, than Trump has.
Republicans don't censor the media, they just answer Democrat false talking points with the actual facts.
In a restricted Oval Office meeting that could not admit the entire White House Press Corps, Trump TEMPORARILY excluded some networks he identified as untrustworhy. But there were plenty of other Trump-hating reporters that CNN and Politico could quote on their network. There was no "ban" on liberal reporting or shut-out of the liberal press. I think Trump knew in advance that he could not permanently ban CNN and Politico, but made it a front-page story for a few days, to draw national attention to their bad journalism ,and humiliate them.
Conversely, Barack Obama ACTUALLY DID try to shut out Fox News completely from the White House Press corps, and only when other liberal media said they would not participate unless Fox were admitted back in, did Obama relent. And Judicial Watch proved, with Obama White House internal e-mails, that Obama intended to permanently exclude Fox news. When caught, Obama said "hey, we were just kidding...". No, they weren't, they just got caught. I linked Judicial Watch's evidence at the time here.
And Biden went one better and tried to have OAN and Newsmax networks taken completely off of cable television. And it's a longtime Democrat/Left goal to completely "de-platform" conservative media, and shut out all views that dissent from George Orwell's liberal media narrative. The people who drafted these goals in Soros-funded think tanks, were then hired into the Biden FCC, to actually make it happen. So who "hates" a free press and the First Amendment? Clearly, the Democrat-Bolshevik party. FACT.
No one knew about the masked shooter-assassin's real story until federal investigators unravelled it, and detailed it in their legal prosecution document (as I already said, what? 5 times now? ) The liberal media is no credible, so what was reported is consistently liberal media propaganda, said only to benefit the Democrat-Bolshevik party, and NOT to report he truth.
The Sandy Hook school shooting (falsely reported as a "right wing" shooter, turned out to be a leftist.) The Rep Gabby Giiffords shooting by Jared Loughner (again portrayed for weeks as a "right wing" shooter, but was in fact a Lefist ) The Ferguson Missouri shooting (the media again lied, and portrayed it as a racist shooting, when even Eric Holder's DOJ finally proved the evidence did not support that narrative.) The Trayvon Martin shooting. (the media again portrayed George Zimmerman as a "right wing" white racist, but he turned out to be a hispanic/black/Jewish immigrant from Ecuador, and a registered Democrat who voted for Obama. ) The Aurora, Colorado movie theatre shooter, falsely reported by the news media to be a Tea Party member, but turned out o be a Leftist/Democrat.
I could go on, there are countless other examples, of George Orwell's liberal media consistently and often deliberately getting the story wrong, to essentially campaign for the Democrats with a deliberate false narrative.
So gee, why didn't I initially believe the media's reporting that his guy was a right-winger?
The facts of this case were not clear, until U.S. attorneys filed their case. PERIOD. The media are proven liars, and not trustworthy. And nor are the liars in the Democrat-Bolshevik party. .
Regarding Talarico, I never saw any legitimate news story that corroborated Talarico was in a mental care facility, I ALWAYS regarded that as speculation and Republican pundits just talking trash about it, without it ever being proven that I ever saw, beyond speculation. So just more of your "influencer" B.S., without any credibiliy anywhere that proved it was true, even to a conservative Republican like me.
Man, watching Donald all but kneel down, open wide, and gargle Putin's balls really has you all hot and bothered.
While saying that demonstrates [further] what a foul and loathesome person you are, that really says nothing clearly, and just makes YOU look bad. Dipshit.
Trump has actually done what you accused Obama of wanting to do WB. The difference is we could agree that Obama was wrong by planning on trying to exclude Fox to an event. Trump excludes multiple networks not just once but multiple times. Unlike with Obama the courts had to intervene and force Trump to the right thing. You don’t have ethics WB. You have party loyalty instead.
Trump has actually done what you accused Obama of wanting to do WB. The difference is we could agree that Obama was wrong by planning on trying to exclude Fox to an event. Trump excludes multiple networks not just once but multiple times. Unlike with Obama the courts had to intervene and force Trump to the right thing. You don’t have ethics WB. You have party loyalty instead.
I don't believe Trump ever planned to permanently exclude CNN and Politico from all White House Press Corps events.
I think it was always Trump's intent to make a headline for a week or so of the gesture to exclude CNN and Politico for bad and unethical behavior. Trump is too intelligent to NOT know they would be permitted back in the White House, even if he really tried to do it permanently. Trump did it only to draw headlines and national attention to CNN and Politico's bad/slanted journalism, unethical behavior, and resultant low ratings, national attention that could only have further hurt their ratings and reputations.
As opposed to Barack Obama, who ACTUALLY DID try to permanently exclude Fox News (and only other news agencies' refusal to participate in future White House press conferences if he did, made Obama back down and let Fox back in.)
And that Biden as president further tried to exclude One America News (OAN), and Newsmax. In OAN's case, they have been permanently marginalized and close to completely de-platformed OAN, for years now. And not for the lack of trying, Newsmax had too much support from cable subscribers for Direct TV and other cable services not to eventually give in to the demands of their subscribers, and le Newsmax back on, after removing Newsmax from Direct TV for 4 months or so in 2023. I for one called Direct TV and said I would cancel, if they continued to ban Newsmax, and I was one of tens of thousands.
** NOTE: That is every conservative mainstream news service Democrats tried to shut down and de-platform (Fox, OAN and Newsmax). And only part of MANY YEARS of the entire Democrat/Left's publicly voiced strategy to cut off and de-platform ALL conservative television news networks. All the people who plotted this "de-platforming" of conservative news (in Soros-funded Leftist think-tanks) were hired by Joe Biden's FCC to do exactly that, to OAN and Newsmax. And Fox News, thanks to Lachlan Murdoch, RINO Paul Ryan, and other untrustworthy Fox executives, is drifting in a RINO/Leftist direction. And no doubt intimidation is also part of Fox's drift away from conservatism.
And since 2019, the Democrat/Left has pretty much made every conservative publication virtually invisible on Google and other internet search engines. They are starving conservative publications like National Review, Breitbart, American Conservative, Daily Caller, and Human Events, of advertising revenue. I've seen several of their editors interviewed say up till 2019, they'd get about 50,000 hits to their sites generated from Google searches, but now filtered out by censoring leftist algorithms, that number coming from search engines has gone to zero. Silenced. Marginalized.
Trump only temporarily excluded a few bad actors at CNN and Poliico for dishonest and unethical behavior. For Trump it was a brief bit of theatrics, not a long-term plan to exclude all Democrat/Left news media. HUGE difference from Democrat presidents' intent. Trump only wanted CNN and Politico to abandon their unethical behavior, before being given full access to the president again .
This video puts in plain view how Acosta and several other unethical reporters present their clear biases as "facts". Acosta asks Trump why he portrays a caravan of 2,000 or so illegal immigrants coming up to crossing into the U.S. as "invaders". And Acosta corrects Trump with spin, that these 2,000 invaders entering the country illegally as a mob, given paid "coyote" escort by drug cartels, are "Not invaders, they are group of migrants moving from Central America towards the border of the U.S." Oh, wow, thanks for clearing that up, Jim Acosta. Liberal media spin, of millions of illegal immigrants clearly breaking federal law, unlawfully entering the U.S., in contempt of our laws.
And the second reporter, Peter Whatever, asks Trump, "You said that Americans should fear Democrats, that Democrats will unleash a wave of violence that will endanger families everywhere." And follows up asking Trump "Why are you pitting Americans against one another, sir?" Obviously, Democrats have said far more incendiary things about Trump, calling him a threat to democracy, "Constitutional crisis", a dictator, called him Hitler, that "Trump has to be stopped", that Trump is a racist discriminating against people who aren't white, "Are you a racist Mr President?", "are you a white supremacist?" That has gone on to stoke multiple Democrat-Leftists to attempt to assassinate Trump, and Charlie Kirk, and several other conservatives. ( No reporter ever asks a Democrat candidate why THEY are pitting Americans against one another, no mater how much MORE incendiary THEIR rhetoric is, or how deceitfully untrue their rhetoric is. ) Watching this circus, I can plainly see that Trump is saying that the policy Democrats are advocating, to empty the jails of violent prisoners, to let millions of illegals into the country completely unvetted, proves that Trump is absolutely right. Thousands of surviving families, like that of Laiken Riley, or of Jocelyn Nungary, can attest to the fact that Democrat/Left policy has gotten their daughters and sons killed. Trump is absolutely right.
But if you only watch CNN, MSNOW, ABC, NBC, CBS and PBS, you have no exposure to these factual examples, just incendiary anti-Trump media spin and selective omission of facts, that ignores the lawlessness and deaths that Democrat policy causes. Not to mention well over 100,000 annual deaths from Fentanyl overdoses and other narcotics, smuggled into the country over an open border by Mexican cartels, in partnership with the Chinese government. Until Trump was elected to a second term. And for the first time EVER, that drug trafficking and massive annual death toll, more drug deaths of Americans than have died in 250 years of all U.S. wars COMBINED) are finally being significantly reduced and prevented.
Since this video clip performance, Acosta has been fired, apparently too unrespectable for even CNN. Although I suspect it was his low ratings, not his poor ethics, that finally got him fired. Because that's all the jackals at CNN really care about. Now unemployed, Acosta just podcasts online, where maybe 10 people watch him or care what he has to say.
The court’s had to intervene on behalf of the press with Trump. They didn’t have to with Obama. And Trump resisted the courts on this. CNN is actually probably going to have to go back to the court again as they are still being barred! During the Biden administration there was an effort to get networks to be more factual instead of intentionally running news that they knew to be false. The 2020 election for example had some lawsuits by voting machine makers that revealed that conservative networks knew a lot of Trump’s claims were lies but ran with them to please their conservative audiences. And the networks paid big sums to settle.
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