The Phantom Zone is a place for Kryptonian criminals. I need more Kryptonians to enjoy a comic about the last survivor of a dead world.
Man, give it a break. Either you like Superman for what the concept is or you don't, period.
Honestly, if you need all this additions to enjoy the concept why the hell bother?
It says that you don't really give a fuck about theconcept and all you care about is the cute additions, additions that were discarted for being LAME and for WATERING down the main concept.
The Phantom Zone is a storage dimension for discarted Kryptonian technology.
DEAL with it or go into a corner and suck you finger like the baby you are...
So, King Krypton doesn't like Superman? I like the Jurgens and company version, I just think it should remain in the past like all the other incarnations (that are equally valid). What does that make me? Do I like Superman or not? Please tell me, I'm dying to know...
Once again, MOTA lives up to the old "Byrne/Jurgens Sycophant" tag. Worse still, he's the very embodiment of it. I find it oh-so-ironic that he claims that anyone who likes elements of the past incarnations "doesn't care about the concept" when he himself has proven ENDLESSLY that he has no use for any version of the character other than the Byrne/Jurgens version, which was LOADED with its own stuff that watered down and damaged the character. Further, he has said several times that everybody who came before Byrne, including Siegel and Shuster, got Superman all wrong. So much for his "respect for the concept." He doesn't even have any use for the men who created the concept in the first place!
Further, let's take a look at the Superman they created in the Golden Age. They never once said how Superman and Lex Luthor met. When Luthor first shows up, he and Superman have already butted heads before, so they obviously have a past history. Nothing there that states they didn't grow up together. There's also nothing at all in the early material that says that only ONE Kryptonian got off the planet. We see the ship take off and that's that. Again, there's nothing that says the Phantom Zone couldn't possibly exist as a prison or that Krypton didn't colonize other planets. And Siegel and Shuster themselves created Superboy with the idea that Superman would have been a prankster as a kid; DC just revised the idea to make it about a Superman in training. Siegel and Shuster were already going to rewrite Superman's past. As for the "concept," Siegel and Shuster created Krypton as a doomed utopia, the very thing MOTA says is inherently degrading to the very "concept" of Superman. Again, ignorant hatred of the creators and no respect for their work, and the oh-so-blatant assertion that Byrne knew better than Superman's own creators did. And for all his whining about how the Phantom Zone and Argo "water down the concept," he gives no proof of it. He can't, because none exists. So what does MOTA have to stand on? Absolutely nothing other than his own selfish, stupid, and bigoted biases. He thinks his PERSONAL TASTES are the sole standard that ALL Superman fans should be forced to agree with, and to hell with anyone who might not view Superman the same way he does.
And therein lies the reason why MOTA has no right to call himself a Superman fan, no right to post on any MBs, and is thoroughly undeserving of respect. He has no use for anyone who doesn't think EXACTLY like him. I've seen people who liked the Byrne/Jurgens era and are still respectful of the past incarnations, and who've shown those who diagree with them respect. If MOTA was of that cloth, I would have no issue with him. But he has repeatedly gone after anyone who thinks differently from him, employing a lynch mob mentality and spreading lies and slander everywhere he goes. And for all his whining about how the "Silver Age fans are taking over and ruining everything," he then turns around and claims, "I hope one day that the post-Crisis fans take over and save the industry." (This is a comment he made over at the DC boards.) Now this is just hypocritical. It's not OK for people who like the older comics to be influenced by them, but it's the peak of brilliance for people who read the Byrne/Jurgens era-stuff to be influenced by it. By making these claims, MOTA forfeits any rights to be respected as a fan. He's inciting hatred against one group of fans solely to put his own group in power. So tell me, who's being the big baby who needs to go stand in the corner and suck his thumb? The guy who respects all the incarnations of Superman even though he likes some better than others, or the hateful, egotistical zealot who flames and attacks anybody who doesn't think the Byrne/Jurgens era is holy writ or who might think the prior incarnations were worthwhile?
And to ask your question, Mxy, going by MOTA's standards, you don't like Superman. Going by my standards, on the other hand, you do. You and I just have differing tastes. But unlike MOTA, I don't see that as cause for open warfare.
