Quote: ManofTheAtom said: Mxy, the only way that story would end would be with another Crisis style reboot that was writen by real writers and not the fanboys working on the comics now.
A Crisis is an excuse. I've told you a 1000 times the Anti-Monitor didn't force Wolfman to do anything. So, if someone wrote a Crisis you'd stop bitching? That's what I meant in the first place.
Quote: And such a crisis would have to bring forth a new origin ,not a stupid ass rehash that only assholes like KKK can enjoy because it reminds them of the crap they liked when they were drooling children peeing in their pants.
In other words, you don't like the new origin and KK is stupid for liking it. But what if it became the official origin through a Crisis? What if your dear continuity dictated that it must be followed?
Quote: As for not needing to know 17 years worth of stories to enjoy comics... SHOW me a comic that requieres that kind of knowledge.
The Superman comics you seem to want would be like that. I started buying Superman comics in 1993 and I didn't get a lot of stuff. They were enjoyable, but not as enjoyable as they became after I read what comes before. The Erradicator, Cadmus and Westfield, Hank Hensaw, etc., meant nothing to me. After I read everything that came before the story made a lot more sense and I saw it under a new light. Because of that Reign of the Superman remains one of my favorites to this day. I had to read all that came before to enjoy the story properly and that's ok, it was "just" seven years. However, if we had an epic like that today, a new reader would have to read 17 years of comics to enjoy it properly, and that's just insane.
Quote: No such thing exists... not that you'd know that since you only make blanket statements without actually knowing what the hell you're talking about.
So, you loooooove continuity, yet you can't think of any stories that require knowing about continuity to enjoy them? What the fuck is it good for, then, if what happens today won't be of any importance today?
Quote: See, people can enjoy the Star Wars movies even though the originals are over 20 years old because they can go rent them.
The problem isn't how old they are, it's how many there are. You can't go to the comic store and buy 17 years of comics just like that.
Quote: People will enjoy upcoming the Indiana Jones movie because they'll have seen the originals on TV or tape, DVD, whatever a hundred times.
Same with comics.
Your stupid ass remark about 17 year old continuity implies that these comics can't be read today, that new readers are somehow unable to get their hands on those old stories and thus they can't understand the current ones that make references to them.
Now you're playing dumb. You can't really believe that's what I meant. Of course they can go pick up a 17 year old comic and enjoy it... but who has the time and the money to get 17 YEARS OF COMICS and read them all just to understand what happens today? If you looooooooooooooooooove continuity you should agree that everything that happens should have repercussions and be important for the future. That means almost every comic should be necessary to understand the present (I mean, if we're using continuity how it's suppoused to be used). And if they're not necessary; what the fuck is a continuity like that good for?
Quote: This is bullshit since, as anyone with half a brain knows, such stories are available as tps and back issues which any one with real curiosity about the stories can go and buy, same way they rent the movies I mention above.
Buy 17 YEARS OF COMICS?! Maybe you have that kind of money, but most people don't... And not everything is in TPBs. Digging back individual backissues can be a bitch.
Quote: NOT that I expect people like you to understand such a thing, it's easier for you to say how stupid continuity is and blah, blah, etc, bs, bs, than in actually opening your eyes and noticing that the comic book industry today is not what it was 20-25 years ago.
Boy, I really got my message across to you...
Quote: Back then getting background info on characters was harder than today as there were not as many tps or comic book stores with back issue bins... or internet sites that have all the information any new reader might need to enjoy a comic.
It's not the same reading a comic than reading about it in the internet. I know: often I've tried to find out about character's backstory through several sites, and when I get to reading the comics very often I realize that things were very different from how the site told them.
Quote: That you, KKK, Bastard and others are too stupid to understand such a simple thing is really your problem, no one elses.
Because we've said so many times that is our problem.
Quote: Your collective stupidity and ignorance is not reason enough for comics to revert back to the way they were done 40 years ago, which is what they're doing now, to catter to you, not real readers...
Yet yours is enough reason for it revert to how they were in the 80's and 90's, oh great Mota.
