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Proffessor X VS The Chief??
Did you see that issue of Top Ten that had all the characters that use wheelchairs holding protest banners outside the interdimensional transit station? The banners asked for access ramps for wheelchairs.
There was Oracle, Charles, the Chief and a few others.
If you didn't I can scan it for you.
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Seriously :
Superman has been a source for inspiration
for me for over 40 years now.
I have Superman figures of various sizes.
A photo of Lois and Clark from Lois and
Clark : The New Adventures.
A few Superman movies.
A LOT of Lois and Clark and Smallville episodes.
He's a survivor. Through the Depression, WW 2,
Watergate, and writers and artists coming and
going like busboys in a restaurant.
Too bad he is not real..We could sure use a
guy like Him these days!
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Man Of the Atom:
Yes! Could you please scan that for me??
Appreciate it!
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That's why people say that Eddie Berganza has done in four years what no one has been able to do in 60.
Superman was a survivor till this moron came along.
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When They Kill off or mis use
or Under use a Character I dearly Love:
Illyana Rasputin
Karate Kid
Colossus
Insert your fav. Character here
I simply create an alternate reality
in which that character lives on, either
with a similar character I create or
as themselves. ( I prefer to use my own
characters , mostly. )
Comics are from the imagination. So I imagine
my OWN comics. I have 40 characters. I put them
in stories of my own, either when I cannot sleep,
or at the dentists, or when unpleasant thoughts
overtake me. I would not want to try doing it
for a living, THAT good I ain't..But it beats
mourning the loss of a special character that you've
gotten to know care about.
Under Clairmount, Illyana was special.I miss her.
I brought Back those from the 60's. Prince Planet.
The heroes from Space stars - Kid Comet, Elektra
and Moleculad.
Used to actually draw the adventures but that got
tedious.
That way, they sometimes come back. And it's
like in a Way, I never lost em.
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I don't pay almost 3 dollars per comic a month to imagine the stories  
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Understood.
Cool Pic!! Thanks!!
Love The Dalek in there, LoL
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Oh, so that's what the robot is, lol.
I had no idea, lol.
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BIG Doctor Who fan here.
Have over 100 episodes on VHS.
Tom Baker = My favorite
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I haven't seen Dr Who in years and years and years.
I did see the 90's movie, it was very good.
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Yes the 1996 movie..I liked it, too.
Wish I knew how to post pics in here....
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well, if you have the url for them all you gotta do is type that inside that (take the spaces inside the  out) [ image ] [ /image ]
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thanks! gotta give that a try!
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There's no such thing as a comic that requieres knowing 17 years worth of continuity, that's a lie that assholes like KK came up with to put continuity down.
So, most of the stuff that happens is irrelevant.
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When continuity's done right, like in JSA or Busiek's Avengers, everything a reader needs to know about past continuity is told to them in a way that makes sense.
Books that don't half as much continuity as Superman does.
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That some readers are too fucking stupid to get it and would rather insult continuity and those that like it because it's easier to them doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the concept of continuity.
"Too fucking stupid to get it"? To get what? To understand what comes before when it's "explained in a way that makes sense"? Do you honestly think that's the problem here? I'm confused because I don't understand because I'm stupid because I like the Silver Age and I hate Man of Steel and I'm an egomaniac and I'm part of a big anti-continuity conspiracy? I wish it were that simple.
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I do wonder why it's so fucking hard for you to understand what the era of comics I prefer is one of constant change and evolution, not repetition and stagnation as the era you and KKK want to see come back (which is what's happening in Superman now).
YOU see that change and evolution. I see it very rarely. Surprisingly enough, the fact that I don't see it doesn't make me stupid (!!!) it only means I have a different opinion than you.
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And no, I wouldn't enjoy or support a new Crisis if it's done out of the fucking mess that Berganza created on purpose.
Such a story should have been planned, not made up to fix what a stupid editor with no idea of what he was doing did.
But it'd be in continuity. It means you have to accept it, because you can't ignore anything that happens in continuity because you looooooooooooove continuity. You can't ignore a part of continuity even if you don't like it, because that would be "pathetic", as you called it when I suggested it. That means you must embrace what's going on with Superman now and what's been happening since 1999, because not doing so would be going against continuity. So the events happened because Berganza and Waid formed an anti-Continuity League to destroy Continuity and bring back the Silver Age because they miss it and don't have money for Archives... doesn't matter. What happened in continuity so you must accept it, and if you don't, you're "pathetic", in your own words.
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When They Kill off or mis use
or Under use a Character I dearly Love:
Colossus
I simply create an alternate reality
in which that character lives on, either
with a similar character I create or
as themselves. ( I prefer to use my own
characters , mostly. )
Comics are from the imagination. So I imagine
my OWN comics. I have 40 characters. I put them
in stories of my own, either when I cannot sleep,
or at the dentists, or when unpleasant thoughts
overtake me. I would not want to try doing it
for a living, THAT good I ain't..But it beats
mourning the loss of a special character that you've
gotten to know care about.
Under Clairmount, Illyana was special.I miss her.
I brought Back those from the 60's. Prince Planet.
The heroes from Space stars - Kid Comet, Elektra
and Moleculad.
Used to actually draw the adventures but that got
tedious.
That way, they sometimes come back. And it's
like in a Way, I never lost em.
Kill off and use improperly in the case of colossus.
I miss that character. In fact I quit reading X-Men because of it. Never got past Issue 2 of Ult X-Men because of it.
In fact I also quit reading the Superman reboot at issue 23. Funny that was right after i got pissed that Supergirl was a mass of protoplasmic goo....
And after Quesada was cool online on some of my ranting Newsarama past a couple years back I said I'd give Marvel another try..then Jemas slammed one of my posts and belittled me and I swore I'd never buy a Marvel book until that idiot was gone..Now he's gone, but no Marvel books really interest me as the damage has been done..I guess I'll wait until it's undone.
Comics is a unique medium. Where people attempt to update a tried and true formula that works..that just needs new angles and a new coat of paint. look at James Bond ..it still works and it's the same formula ...with a new coat of paint.
Much like Supergirl works as it wa soriginally intended..as a concept. When it strays from the roiginal it doesn't work. If you made James Bond and American CIA agent it wouldn't work. People expect James Bond to be in the British MI6. If you take the concept from the core of what it is..you alienate people. Some people will like it , but generally speaking most will scoff at it.
Much like Supergirl. If you want to kill her..fine. But don't bring in something absolutely different from the original to just use the brand name..people get pissed and won't accept it...
New Coke comes to mind.....although MOTA may have liked New Coke because all along he just wanted a Pepsi and wanted to dillute Classic Coke for everyone else just because he liked New Coke. Funny, they don't make New Coke anymore.
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But it'd be in continuity. It means you have to accept it, because you can't ignore anything that happens in continuity because you looooooooooooove continuity. You can't ignore a part of continuity even if you don't like it, because that would be "pathetic", as you called it when I suggested it. That means you must embrace what's going on with Superman now and what's been happening since 1999, because not doing so would be going against continuity. So the events happened because Berganza and Waid formed an anti-Continuity League to destroy Continuity and bring back the Silver Age because they miss it and don't have money for Archives... doesn't matter. What happened in continuity so you must accept it, and if you don't, you're "pathetic", in your own words.
Retard, that's the whole point of what's wrong with the Superman comics, that what's happening IS in continuity.
What's happening is the worst creative rot the books have been in 40 years, no one other than fuck heads like KK and other retards are interested in what's going on because it reminds them of their precious Silver Age.
REAL readers, those that like what happened after Crisis and MoS see what's wrong with the books and refuse to buy them.
Instead of fixing things so those readers will come back the stupid editor is bringing in MORE outdated Silver Age ideas to make fanboys-turned-writers like Mark Waid and readers who've spent the last 17 years complaining happy.
Ideas like using THREE different Supermen at the same time, a stupid, outdated Silver Age idea that only the above people can appreciate.
See, it's a case of the character having outgrown these morons and the morons being unable to let go of it.
The character wasn't the same as when they were kids and now that they're in a possition to turn him back into that they're doing it.
In the long term this doesn't do anything.
Do you really think that people are going to make Superman the number 1 comic because it's the BR Superman or because he's number 2 out of three?
No, it'll be because of the name on the credit box... but once that name vanishes and the stupid version of the character remains people will run away from the comic again...
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They came up with the new Kryptonian rule because, guess what, Superman is the last Kryptonian! That's concept.
And you just responded the first part of my post with something you've already told me before and ignored the important part. You think he should be the last Kryptonian, I think it depends. That's clear, I'm not gonna change your opinion about that and you're not gonna change mine. The second part of my post was the important part, so obviously you ignored...
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No, it's a remake of the Earth 2, Earth 1 and Earth 3 Superman (but this time he's not evil, just dark).
They never had a series for themselves at the same time. In fact, I don't think Earth 3 Superman ever had much spotlight.
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It's not a remake of the Dominus thing.
It will if it's not done correctly. In the Dominus saga we got a bunch of enjoyable stories, until they started mixing and it became lame. It's obvious that Dominus was created as an excuse to make those stories.
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There's no such thing as a new origin. BR uses OLD elements taken from every single thing done before, there's nothing original in it.
Man of Steel takes old stuff too, like I mentioned. It was the whole point of my message, I think.
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The original elements in Byrne's version is what's had morons like you and KKK whinning for years...
IS THAT FUCKING SO?
Please ellaborate on that. How those elements make me whine.
I haven't been whining for years. I've thought the comics were lame since 1998 (when I was reading the stuff from 1997), and unreadable since 2000 (when I got the first taste of the stuff from 1999), but I've only expressed my opinions about this since you came to this board. But then again, you're never wrong and you know everything about me, so I must be wrong.
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No, in 17 years I hope to get something DIFFERENT than what's been done before.
GASP! Different than Man of Steel?! SINNER!
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I don't even remember New Coke.
I'm not as ancient as many of you, I'm only 28, I don't remember the minuta of what happened in the 70's...
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There are no Silver Age Superman Archives yet. Although maybe this year.... 
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That describes you and KKK perfectly since you have hard time accepting people liking Byrne's work because it's not the same as what it used to be, just like you have a hard time accepting people not liking BR for being a rehash of what came before MoS.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!
I LIKE MAN OF STEEL!!!!!!!!!
YOU FUCKING IDIOT, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I SAID IT?!
I'm asking seriously now: what's wrong with your brain? Do you have some sort of mental problem?
I'm not saying this because you like Byrne's origin (I like it too, but I guess you'll forget that in two seconds) I say it because you're unable to understand the simplest of things.
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I'm 21 and I remember New Coke!
Hey, my first post in this long-ass thread!
He fixes the cable?
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I don't even remember New Coke.
I'm not as ancient as many of you, I'm only 28, I don't remember the minuta of what happened in the 70's...
New Coke was in the 80's. Mid 80's I believe.
And strangely most people only remember how bad it was..which was my point.
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Crystal Pepsi... That I remember!
He fixes the cable?
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No, you idiot, I expect them to be a continuation of it, not be the same over and over again.
And what if someone says they want a continuition of the Silver Age?!
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Before Berganza came along the books were in constant growth, now they're in a constant state of boredom.
Name growth between 94 and 99. I can only think of the Wedding and even that was small: the relationship between Lois and Clark stayed the same. The breakup shook things for a bit but that returned back to normal pretty fast.
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I don't even remember New Coke.
I'm not as ancient as many of you, I'm only 28, I don't remember the minuta of what happened in the 70's...
Well, considering New Coke happened in 1985, and you would've been 9, I don't see how New Coke would be minuta of the 70s.
Oh, and you're bitching about silver age fans wanting the Silver Age back because the style was what they were drooling over as children...?
Lesse... You would've been 10 in 1986, at the time of the Byrne reboot. Yer Balls wouldn't have even dropped yet (if they ever have). And, you're a slavish Byrne Superman fan.
Hmmm... exactly Who is it drooling over parts of their childhood...?
I hate hypocrites. Especially ones who don't do it right.
First National Bastard
-Enormous, Sexually Voracious Lecher... who wants to claim your immortal soul!!!.
Every time you masturbate, God Kills a kitten! Please... think of the Kittens.
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!!!
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How "Continuity Taliban" different from "KKK"? If in your opinion what KK is doing is wrong, why are you lowering yourself to that level?
Only people that deserve respect get respect.
Respect is earned, not given.
Like I said, I was respectful of that asshole's opinion on the other board, but once we got here he showed his true colors and pov on fans like me, so he gets what he gives.
So, yeah, you're lowering yourself.
Ah.
I guess I should ignore the points you try to make and avoid addressing any contradictions you point out and call you stupid for your opinion and not your attitude...
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And you just responded the first part of my post with something you've already told me before and ignored the important part. You think he should be the last Kryptonian, I think it depends. That's clear, I'm not gonna change your opinion about that and you're not gonna change mine. The second part of my post was the important part, so obviously you ignored...
If you think that then the concept of a planet exploding and killing everyone on it except for a baby is clearly over your head...
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They never had a series for themselves at the same time. In fact, I don't think Earth 3 Superman ever had much spotlight..
Sure he didn't, he only had his own series (or was it a mini? I'm not sure).
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It will if it's not done correctly. In the Dominus saga we got a bunch of enjoyable stories, until they started mixing and it became lame. It's obvious that Dominus was created as an excuse to make those stories
You do understand that Superman splitting into different versions was a story arc and never intended to be permanent, right? It was a homage to those four different eras, nothing more.
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Man of Steel takes old stuff too, like I mentioned. It was the whole point of my message, I think..
It took what worked, it left out what didn't.
BR does the opposite, it takes what didn't work and brings it back.
The idea of Superman being like a God who came from a futuristic Earth didn't work, if it had then that's what they would have done in the movie and John Byrne wouldn't have been allowed to change it.
The fact that the movie did change it and so did Byrne makes it clear that this idea doesn't work.
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IS THAT FUCKING SO?
Please ellaborate on that. How those elements make me whine.
I haven't been whining for years. I've thought the comics were lame since 1998 (when I was reading the stuff from 1997), and unreadable since 2000 (when I got the first taste of the stuff from 1999), but I've only expressed my opinions about this since you came to this board. But then again, you're never wrong and you know everything about me, so I must be wrong.
If that were at all true, in any way, we would have never gotten into any kind of argument at all.
The fact that we do says different...
The fact that you think that Superman should be surrounded by more Kryptonians gives off the impression that you prefer the outdated Silver Age notion of the character, which is EXACTLY what we've been getting since 99...
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GASP! Different than Man of Steel?! SINNER!
If a real Crisis happens before then (and not a hack job like this year) then I see no reason for MoS to keep going, not if the characterS origins get retold from the start.
I would expect things to be different, not the same old crap that only a 70 year old, toothless Mark Waid or a 50 year old KKK might enjoy...
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The way you interpret things isn't automatically the truth, you know.
Sure it doesn't... BR is really the best story EVER and nothing on it is in any way derivative of what came before 
Oh, and Alan Moore changed Supreme into Batman, not Superman, I just interpretated it that way
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Your point?
Byrne took Superman back to his true roots... unlike Waid who's making him a SuperGod like what he was in the Silver Age.
You forgot to mention that everyone who likes it is an idiot.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!
I LIKE MAN OF STEEL!!!!!!!!!
YOU FUCKING IDIOT, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I SAID IT?!
I'm asking seriously now: what's wrong with your brain? Do you have some sort of mental problem?
I'm not saying this because you like Byrne's origin (I like it too, but I guess you'll forget that in two seconds) I say it because you're unable to understand the simplest of things.
You may like MoS yet you keep expressing an opinion that's more in line with that of someone that prefers the way things were done 40 years ago (add more Kryptonians for example).
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I remember JFK being Shot.... 
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How many Kryptonians do you think there were anyway? Jaysus. Superboy was a young Superman who time travelled. Supergirl was his Cousin. Krypto..check..... Zod and crew. Who else except in imaginary stories? And remember a great many of those silver age stories were always told as imaginary and were meant as imaginary. Something Superman has sorely lacked for abot 15 years...imagination.
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And what if someone says they want a continuition of the Silver Age?!
They're told that it ended in the 70's (or 80's, depending on your perspective) and they go on 17 year long rants about how John Byrne killed Superman and there not being super pets in the comics prevent them from having fun reading them.
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Name growth between 94 and 99. I can only think of the Wedding and even that was small: the relationship between Lois and Clark stayed the same. The breakup shook things for a bit but that returned back to normal pretty fast.
Supergirl merging with Linda.
Superboy and Steel becoming part of the DC Universe.
The Legion being rebooted RIGHT with the JLA instead of an anomaly being their inspiration.
Comics like Ressurection Man and Hitman.
Starman.
Kyle Rayner.
Hal as Parallax.
Wally West and Linda Park getting married.
Lex becoming younger after making a deal with the devil.
Lex becoming a father.
Lex getting married
Lex running for President.
Lucy having a son.
Lana having a son.
Lucy getting married to Ron.
Lana getting married to Pete.
And other stuff you probably don't care about or will debunk for "sucking"
Comics are like a Rorschach test; everyone has a different opinion on what they are and can be...
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Today the plot dictates what a comic is going to be about, the characters have been lost because people like KK and Mxy have spent the last few years complaining that Superman has been talking with his parents more often than he punches someone on the head.
Fuck you. I've never said I don't like what Byrne did (I've said the opposite 100 times!), all I'm saying is that it's about time we get something new.
MOTA: "But new isn't the Silv--"
Yeah, yeah, fuck it, whatever. I don't care if it has SA elements or not. All I'm saying is I wouldn't go nuts if there were.
MOTA: "But Birthrigh--"
Lemme finish, damn it! Fuck Birthright. I haven't read it, I can't judge it until I do (sadly, I can't judge stories on their covers, lenght or wether or not they include a superpet, like some people). MoS came along when we needed something new. Now we need something new again.
A lot of people bitched like you're bitching now when MoS came along ("We don't need this..." "Superman is fine like he is..." "Whoever likes MoS is stupid..." "Well, he could use some man-boobs...").
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I remember JFK being Shot....
You're nearly as old as...as...LLance....
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First off, MOTA, let me adress some of your woefully inaccurate claims:
1. "King Krypton doesn't have the guts to say the things he's said to anyone's face." Wrong. I find that in your case, civility is useless. Others have used it, and it's gotten them nowhere. Further, I've encountered far too many egomaniacs and trolls such as yourself, and my patience with them has run out. Believe me, if I ever encountered you or anyone like you, I would more than gladly speak my mind.
2. "I used to respect him...." OK, you've told some pretty weak lies in the past, but this is just pathetic. You have NEVER respected the opinions of anyone other than those who share your "Byrne/Jurgens only" dogma. Even before you started polluting this forum with your rants, I saw the way you attacked anyone who didn't agree with you on other forums and I hoped that I would never have to put up with your hate. Lo and behold, you had to show up here, and you were just intolerant from the start here as you've been everywhere else. Don't even try to play the victim here. You brought this all on yourself.
3. "There's no difference between me calling you 'KKK' than there is you calling the post-Crisis fans the Taliban." First off, and I have said this countless times before, I have no beef with anyone who liked the post-Crisis comics, and never have. My beef is with those like you, who disrespect the memories of Siegel and Shuster and all their successors and rant and rave about how only 1986-1999 is a valid time for comics and that anything else in inherently evil. Second, "The Continuity Taliban" and "The Talibyrne" were terms invented by others over at the DC boards in response to those like you. I didn't come up with them. Further, you and those like you live up to that name with every word you post. You're intolerant of other people's tastes/opinions, you demand that everyone should be of the exact same mindset that you are, and you declare anyone who doesn't agree with you to be the enemy. You're trying to dictate what people should like and think. You and those like you are extremists, and you embody that name that was created over at the DC boards. That's the reason why I've used it. As for your "KKK" comment, I don't see where my respecting other people's tastes and not standing for your intolerance equates me with a bunch of genocidal racists. I don't find your little insult-name offensive, just stupid and poorly thought out. Much like everything you've ever posted....
4. "We can all see what an asshole you really are." The only asshole around here is YOU, pal. All those who've been lashing out at you have merely been fighting back. It's ME and everyone else here who's been stooping to your level, not vice versa. Believe me, I would much rather not have to see you spewing intolerance and hate all over this forum or any other. I don't come to these boards to start a fight. I don't insult people for having different opinions/tastes. I don't demand that they all conform to my mindset or else. That's what YOU have been doing. The rest of us have only been standing our ground. Again, don't even try to play the victim here. You're the one who started all this hate and dictator-like dogmatism on the 'Net. Any heat you take is entirely deserved, and I will never apologize for anything I've said to you.
Don't like my attitude? Tough. I have no tolerance for people like you, people who try to dictate what people like and think. Before you go trying to paint anyone as the bad guy, take a long, hard look in the mirror first.
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Well, considering New Coke happened in 1985, and you would've been 9, I don't see how New Coke would be minuta of the 70s.
Oh, and you're bitching about silver age fans wanting the Silver Age back because the style was what they were drooling over as children...?
Lesse... You would've been 10 in 1986, at the time of the Byrne reboot. Yer Balls wouldn't have even dropped yet (if they ever have). And, you're a slavish Byrne Superman fan.
Hmmm... exactly Who is it drooling over parts of their childhood...?
I hate hypocrites. Especially ones who don't do it right.
Nice try but while I did get into comics in 87 with the reboot (at a time when I didn't know what the fuck a reboot was) I didn't get into continuity and really start following comics till 92.
After getting interested in the DC U I learned as much as I could of what came before... and to the surprise of those who think that continuity is a sin, my head didnd't explode after learning about Crisis and the reboots.
Comics are like a Rorschach test; everyone has a different opinion on what they are and can be...
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I don't pay almost 3 dollars per comic a month to imagine the stories
Don't buy em if you don't like em... You have TPBs.
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Fuck you. I've never said I don't like what Byrne did (I've said the opposite 100 times!), all I'm saying is that it's about time we get something new.
MOTA: "But new isn't the Silv--"
Yeah, yeah, fuck it, whatever. I don't care if it has SA elements or not. All I'm saying is I wouldn't go nuts if there were.
MOTA: "But Birthrigh--"
Lemme finish, damn it! Fuck Birthright. I haven't read it, I can't judge it until I do (sadly, I can't judge stories on their covers, lenght or wether or not they include a superpet, like some people). MoS came along when we needed something new. Now we need something new again.
A lot of people bitched like you're bitching now when MoS came along ("We don't need this..." "Superman is fine like he is..." "Whoever likes MoS is stupid..." "Well, he could use some man-boobs...").
I've never said that Superman is fine like he is right now.
I've said countless times that Superman needs to move away from the bs from the last four years and get back on track.
That has nothing to do with the origin.
For fucks sake, Spider-Man went through a slump in the 90's and fucking Marvel tried to fix it by remaking the origin and that blew in their fucking faces.
All the character needed was a writer that could take the character back on track.
Is it too fucking hard to do the same with Superman?
The only reason the origin has gone alterations every year for the last four years is because Berganza doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.
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