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I did get into comics in 87




Thanks for proving my point.

Drooling over lost youth. Things will remain the way they were when you were young, or you'll bitch 'till the next comic age. And anyone who disagrees is stupid.

I think I've summed up every MOTA Post here... well... add in a couple BLAH BLAH BLAHs, and that's pretty much it.

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Actually there are 2 points of yours that I agree with. Man of Steel was good and Eddie Berganza is the Anti-Christ of editors...


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KKK

Bullshit.

You're the one that opened a Byrne Fans are the Talliban thread right here before they remade the board.

You can deny it but you're the kind of asshole that opens hate filled threads that insult others.

Hell, Pig Iron opened this thread with an insult directed towards me.


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Retard, that's the whole point of what's wrong with the Superman comics, that what's happening IS in continuity.

What's happening is the worst creative rot the books have been in 40 years, no one other than fuck heads like KK and other retards are interested in what's going on because it reminds them of their precious Silver Age.

REAL readers, those that like what happened after Crisis and MoS see what's wrong with the books and refuse to buy them.




Fuck, man, their opinion is as important as yours. When are you gonna understand that? What gives you the right to think you're smarter than someone else because you like something different? I enjoy SA comics (the few I've read) and I enjoy Watchmen and From Hell, probably the most complex comics ever written.


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For fucks sake, Spider-Man went through a slump in the 90's and fucking Marvel tried to fix it by remaking the origin and that blew in their fucking faces.

All the character needed was a writer that could take the character back on track.

Is it too fucking hard to do the same with Superman?






Now We agree on something!

We need Warren Ellis, Garth Ennis, Grant Morrison, and Brian K. Vaughn to take on Superman!

Sales would be up, creativity would be at an all time high, and goddamn it, we'd finally learn if Larry Niven's short story was true!!!!!


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It's very simple Mxy:

Fuck brains like KK don't allow readers like me to enjoy what they don't like, so I see no reason to let them enjoy what they do.

Might be petty but that's how I work, I give as I take.

Fuck heads like KK try to convince people that Superman was defined in the 60's and that things like Moore's Supreme is the one and only way that Superman should be done (for example, I have many).

Trying to talk with these people with any kind of respect is useless.

You can spend months trying, in the kindess of ways, to make them realize and understand (for example) that their character evolved and changed into what he is now and what you'll get back is insults for liking the character as he was between 86 and 99.

You'll get attack with terms like Byrne victim or told that Superman is a Supermurderer... and reminded that Moore did Superman right with Supreme (can't forget that one) and anyone that doesn't follow that pattern is wrong, as are those that like that different version.

You're not blind, you saw the two previous pages of conversation I had with Beardguy57.

I'm respectful with people that deserve respect, notfuck heads who spend their time telling readers like me that we're wrong for liking something just because it doesnt' follow the fucking mantra of the Silver Age.


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http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazines/wizard/WZ20031222-five.cfm

Michael Turner admits that the blonde girl with the red eyes on the cover to Superman/batman #8 is indeed Supergirl.

Let this be the last time for a while and let DC give us a character that makes sense and is likeable...at the same time. Apparently she will have the midriff of the animated Supergirl, but also look like an updated version of the classic kara model???? You got me...As long as she isn't from the future, the past, or a robot..I don't care ...

Suposedly this week Superman #200 also does away with the Byrne Superman and aligns us with the new updated Superman: Birthright origin.

Poor MOTA must be having hyperventilating panic attacks......





That's an insult???? You must be really thin skinned..that was supposed to be funny..hah hah. An insult is a personal attack. What I said was the obvious truth. Do you disagree with what i said?


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Now We agree on something!




I bet we don't agree on what "back on track" means, though... and that's the problem.

For me back on track means accepting that Crisis and MoS happened.

For most fuck heads (not that I'm saying you are one, at least not in this reply to this message) think that back on track means MORE Kryptonians, MORE Super pets, Kandor, MORE Kryptonite, dead kents, Luthor in Smallville and all the outdated bullshit Byrne got rid of...

These comes from people that can't accept that those elements are gone... (yes, they're being brought back by fanboy number one Mark Waid but only because he's just that, a fan boy).


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Poor MOTA must be having hyperventilating panic attacks......
That's an insult???? You must be really thin skinned..that was supposed to be funny..hah hah. An insult is a personal attack. What I said was the obvious truth. Do you disagree with what i said?




It can't be the truth since I didn't have "entilating panic attacks"

I did have a good laugh at how pathetic it is for Supergirl from Krypton to come back and how 17 years of whinning helped all those losers who've spent that time asking for her to come back...


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Exactly.

An insult would've been "Poor MOTA will be having hyperventilating attacks after he finishes having dirty five way sex with his mother, his dog, a courpse, and a three year old, because MOTA is a goddamned dirty pedophile/necrophiliac/beastiality freak with a real bad oedipal complex".

That's an insult.

"Poor MOTA will have a hyperventilation attack" was a wry observation.

Se the difference?


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If you think that then the concept of a planet exploding and killing everyone on it except for a baby is clearly over your head...




I enjoy it. I'm just capable of enjoying something different too. Unlike you, I like variety. This is not wether I like or don't like one version of Superman: I pretty much like them all. This is about you sticking to one version and insulting people who don't like it, or dare saying it should be left behind like all the other versions.

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Sure he didn't, he only had his own series (or was it a mini? I'm not sure).




Betcha it was a mini, if it existed.

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You do understand that Superman splitting into different versions was a story arc and never intended to be permanent, right? It was a homage to those four different eras, nothing more.




I know. I was meant to be temporary then. I hope it isn't now.

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It took what worked, it left out what didn't.

BR does the opposite, it takes what didn't work and brings it back.




FOR YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU. What works or doesn't work FOR YOOOOOOOOOOOU. You're not God.

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The idea of Superman being like a God who came from a futuristic Earth didn't work, if it had then that's what they would have done in the movie and John Byrne wouldn't have been allowed to change it.

The fact that the movie did change it and so did Byrne makes it clear that this idea doesn't work.




...eh?

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If that were at all true, in any way, we would have never gotten into any kind of argument at all.

The fact that we do says different...




It does? So I guess I'm really lying. And I wasn't even aware of it. Hey, maybe Mark Waid is paying me to say this.

Seriously, this proves that the quick assumptions you make aren't (gasp!) always correct.

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The fact that you think that Superman should be surrounded by more Kryptonians gives off the impression that you prefer the outdated Silver Age notion of the character, which is EXACTLY what we've been getting since 99...




I don't think he SHOULD, or he SHOULDN'T, for me it works both ways. I'm open to change, I'm open to nostalgia (be it 60's or 80's nostalgia) but I'm not open to hypocresy.

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If a real Crisis happens before then (and not a hack job like this year) then I see no reason for MoS to keep going, not if the characterS origins get retold from the start.

I would expect things to be different, not the same old crap that only a 70 year old, toothless Mark Waid or a 50 year old KKK might enjoy...




And obviously it'd be different from Man of Steel. Different. From. Man. Of. Steel. Aren't those words killing you inside?

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Sure it doesn't... BR is really the best story EVER and nothing on it is in any way derivative of what came before

Oh, and Alan Moore changed Supreme into Batman, not Superman, I just interpretated it that way




You're actually saying that your opinions are undoubtable truths? You're fucking insane.


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Now We agree on something!




I bet we don't agree on what "back on track" means, though... and that's the problem.

For me back on track means accepting that Crisis and MoS happened.

For most fuck heads (not that I'm saying you are one, at least not in this reply to this message) think that back on track means MORE Kryptonians, MORE Super pets, Kandor, MORE Kryptonite, dead kents, Luthor in Smallville and all the outdated bullshit Byrne got rid of...

These comes from people that can't accept that those elements are gone... (yes, they're being brought back by fanboy number one Mark Waid but only because he's just that, a fan boy).




Truthfully... I could give a shit less. As long as the stories are good, I wouldn't care if it they introduced Pink Kryptonite, which made Superman a flaming fag for 48 hours. (Yeah... I just reread the last Supergirl storyarc...)

The First superman I was exposed to was Byrne's version. I read the books from 94 through 1997 (with a brief dalliance after Loeb and crew took over in 1999). I stopped reading beacuse I was sick of the stagnation, the fact that I had to buy four titles a month to get a full story, and the same old shit.

At this point, I won't read the books again unless they do something like getting Ellis, Ennis, Morrison, and Rick Veitch or Mike Grell or someone comparable on the books, and give them free reign to kill, maim, depower, re-power, sodomize, disfigure, or stagnate as they please.

Hell, even Batman is allowed to Fuck catwoman these days!

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You may like MoS yet you keep expressing an opinion that's more in line with that of someone that prefers the way things were done 40 years ago (add more Kryptonians for example).




It's more in line with people my age, actually, but you wouldn't know about that. I'm just more open minded than you, that's all. A person who thinks the Silver Age is the only way to go would hate me too because I'm capable of enjoying the Modern Age. A person who thinks continuity should NEVER be applied would hate me too, because I think sometimes it can. He'd call me a continuity lover, probably.

My point is: you want your version of Superman to be the only one, ok. But where does that leave the other fans? Why can only one part have their version?
This has nothing to do with the Silver Age or the Modern Age: if you were defending the Silver Age the way you're defending the Golden Age I'd say the same things to you.


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I enjoy it. I'm just capable of enjoying something different too. Unlike you, I like variety. This is not wether I like or don't like one version of Superman: I pretty much like them all. This is about you sticking to one version and insulting people who don't like it, or dare saying it should be left behind like all the other versions.





See, that's a bullshit statement.

If it were at all true then you'd be saying "gee, why do we need to alter ONE version to have more variants?

Wouldn't it be better to revive something like Superman Adventures, which offered a different version from Superman?

Add that to the Smallville comic and the regular comic and you have three different versions of the character, all with three different rules (Adventures had MORE Kryptonitans)".

No, instead you expect ONE version to be split into three different ones.

So don't say that you like different versions when the truth is that you want ONE version to be replaced with three others because you don't like that ONE version. (even though you claim you do...)

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Betcha it was a mini, if it existed.




It did, it was called Crime Syndicate of America... I'm sure it was a comic.

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I know. I was meant to be temporary then. I hope it isn't now.




I hope it is, there's still no fucking reason to have three different Supermen existing at the same time other than to please the more assnine of fans that can't let go of the 1960's...

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FOR YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU. What works or doesn't work FOR YOOOOOOOOOOOU. You're not God.




NOOOO. What works for the CONCEPT.

Luthor in Smallville isn't necessary in the CONCEPT. It only makes idiots happy because that's how the comic was 40 years ago and that's how they want it to be forever.

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...eh?




Over your head just like everything else.

Try reading it slowly...

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It does? So I guess I'm really lying. And I wasn't even aware of it. Hey, maybe Mark Waid is paying me to say this.

Seriously, this proves that the quick assumptions you make aren't (gasp!) always correct.




You claim one thing and then say another (look above)...

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I don't think he SHOULD, or he SHOULDN'T, for me it works both ways. I'm open to change, I'm open to nostalgia (be it 60's or 80's nostalgia) but I'm not open to hypocresy.




It's one thing to be open to change and nostalgia... it's another when SA fuck heads keep insisting that Byrne killed Superman and that the 60's defined the character and anything that's different from that is wrong, as is everyone that likes it.

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And obviously it'd be different from Man of Steel. Different. From. Man. Of. Steel. Aren't those words killing you inside?




You did read what I said, right? Or was that over your head too?

Try again...

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You're actually saying that your opinions are undoubtable truths? You're fucking insane.




I'm saying that those comics are clear as water, for those that AREN'T hypocrates and pretend they're something they're not.

BR brings back elements from the Silver Age and Moore's Supreme was a fucking rip off of Superman.

Anyone with eyes can see that... anyone that doesn't is either blind or in denial...


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A person who thinks continuity should NEVER be applied would hate me too, because I think sometimes it can. He'd call me a continuity lover, probably.






Continuity Lover!!!

If you love continuity so much, why don't you marry it?!?!

We don't take kindly to your kind 'round here... continuity lover!!!!!

I would never let my daughter date a... continuity lover.


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My point is: you want your version of Superman to be the only one, ok. But where does that leave the other fans? Why can only one part have their version?
This has nothing to do with the Silver Age or the Modern Age: if you were defending the Silver Age the way you're defending the Golden Age I'd say the same things to you.




Not at all.. my opinion is that the consistancy of the stories is more important than some losers whinning about Kara Zor-El being dead...

Crisis happened, deal with it.

DC's had plenty of changes to unmake it and they haven't... till now that is.

If they were going to unmake it they could have done a much better job than fucking Superman #200, don't you think?

And fucking Birthright and fucking Godfall and stupid ass three Supermen running around at the same time.

These ideas are something that only an editor that's over his head would come up with...


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And fucking Birthright and fucking Godfall and stupid ass three Supermen running around at the same time.

These ideas are something that only an editor that's over his head would come up with...




Damn right!

Why, next thing you know, he'll be so in over his head, he'll have to, I dunno... Kill Superman!!!

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My point is: you want your version of Superman to be the only one, ok. But where does that leave the other fans? Why can only one part have their version?
This has nothing to do with the Silver Age or the Modern Age: if you were defending the Silver Age the way you're defending the Golden Age I'd say the same things to you.




Not at all.. my opinion is that the consistancy of the stories is more important than some losers whinning about Kara Zor-El being dead...

Crisis happened, deal with it.

DC's had plenty of changes to unmake it and they haven't... till now that is.

If they were going to unmake it they could have done a much better job than fucking Superman #200, don't you think?

And fucking Birthright and fucking Godfall and stupid ass three Supermen running around at the same time.

These ideas are something that only an editor that's over his head would come up with...




Do you understand THE CRISIS ON MULTIPLE EARTHS though? Supergirl never existed to die in that series as it fucking never happened. She never existed...yet. But she still can exist because the universe was reborn. Kara died in the pre existing universe...do you get it? Wonder woman died too but she was reborn..get it? Kara has yet to appear...get it?

And you never answered my question about how many "non-imaginary" Kryp-fucking-tonians you believed there were pre-crisis Earth 1. How many MOTA?

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And you never answered my question about how many "non-imaginary" Kryp-fucking-tonians you believed there were pre-crisis Earth 1. How many MOTA?




...one for the master, one for the maid, and one for the little boy who lives down the lane?

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Do you understand THE CRISIS ON MULTIPLE EARTHS though? Supergirl never existed to die in that series as it fucking never happened. She never existed...yet. But she still can exist because the universe was reborn. Kara died in the pre existing universe...do you get it? Wonder woman died too but she was reborn..get it? Kara has yet to appear...get it?




One:

There's no such thing as Crisis on Multiple Earths... it was called Crisis on Infinite Earths.

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As I've explained before (not that I expect anyone here to get it) Crisis DID happen just differently than it was published.

Kara Zor-El never existed in Crisis and because of that her heroism never inspired Dr. Light, but even so the writers foudn a way around that and found something else (an idiotic something, but something nonetheless).

Barry still died in Crisis, as shown in Life & Times of Barry Allen and Flash #150.

No, Kara can't exist Post Crisis since there's only supposed to be ONE Kryptonian, the one everyone here seems to hate, Superman.

I really don't know what's so hard about the concept of one Kryptonian that bothers people so much that they insist that there should be more of him (more Kryptonians AND more Supermen!)

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And you never answered my question about hoew many "non-imaginary" Kryp-fucking-tonians you believed there were pre-crisis Earth 1. How many MOTA?




I didn't answer if because you clearly have no idea of what you're talking about...

There were millions of Kryptonian survivors.

For fuck's sake, Dev-Em survived inside a tool shed just Superman could have someone else to punch!

He has the El's neighboor and he survived in a tool shed!

This is the kind of writing you guys want .... you want more Kryptonians and don't give a damn how it happens...


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Damn!!!! Dev Em survived Krypton
exploding in a Tool shed????

I gotta get me one of Those!!!


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This is the kind of writing you guys want .... you want more Kryptonians and don't give a damn how it happens...




...I thought the only way there could be more Kryptonians would be if a Mommy Kryptonian and a Daddy Kryptonian (who love each other very much) hugged each other in a special way, and then nine months later, the metal eater delivered a bouncing baby kryptonian!!!


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Do you understand THE CRISIS ON MULTIPLE EARTHS though? Supergirl never existed to die in that series as it fucking never happened. She never existed...yet. But she still can exist because the universe was reborn. Kara died in the pre existing universe...do you get it? Wonder woman died too but she was reborn..get it? Kara has yet to appear...get it?




One:

There's no such thing as Crisis on Multiple Earths... it was called Crisis on Infinite Earths.

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As I've explained before (not that I expect anyone here to get it) Crisis DID happen just differently than it was published.

Kara Zor-El never existed in Crisis and because of that her heroism never inspired Dr. Light, but even so the writers foudn a way around that and found something else (an idiotic something, but something nonetheless).

Barry still died in Crisis, as shown in Life & Times of Barry Allen and Flash #150.

No, Kara can't exist Post Crisis since there's only supposed to be ONE Kryptonian, the one everyone here seems to hate, Superman.

I really don't know what's so hard about the concept of one Kryptonian that bothers people so much that they insist that there should be more of him (more Kryptonians AND more Supermen!)

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And you never answered my question about hoew many "non-imaginary" Kryp-fucking-tonians you believed there were pre-crisis Earth 1. How many MOTA?




I didn't answer if because you clearly have no idea of what you're talking about...

There were millions of Kryptonian survivors.

For fuck's sake, Dev-Em survived inside a tool shed just Superman could have someone else to punch!

He has the El's neighboor and he survived in a tool shed!

This is the kind of writing you guys want .... you want more Kryptonians and don't give a damn how it happens...





Actually it does exist only it is the JSA/JLA crossover which I just read..fuck me running.
Anyway..millions???? yep..sure.


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I'm gonna leave you to ponder that one for a while... hopefully you, a SUPERGIRL fan will understand where those millions came from.

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Forgive My Kandor...LoL!!

Ok, Supergirl died but she didn't really
exist but later she would exist and maybe later
again she would cease to exist again..and then
she would exist again....

I'm having an excedrin moment.


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Barry is only still dead because of the way that he died which was a time anomally. Which is why Marv Wolfman had him die that way because it was a loophole if DC wanted to bring him back..DC didn't though which is fine.

Supe's is the Last Son of Krypton..he thinks that he is the sole survivor..is he omniscient?

Anyway..I don't mind not having a Supergirl as I can read my comic collection to get that fix. I do think having a non-kryptonian supergirl is dumb as hell. After all the concept is probably older than your parents as she debuted in 1959.

And let's face it. Kara herself and Superboy were both derivations of the Marvel family--the originators of the family concept. Silver age Superman has as much to do with Captain Marvel's Success as anything else. To deny a quality character because you want a lone kryptonian is pretty anal.


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Supergirl can't exist post Crisis unless the editors lets his writers hack the work and ignore what Byrne did with the link the Kryptonians had to their world (which is a cool sci fi idea and a good way to stop just that, writers hacking).

Odds are that unimaginative Berganza will let them do just that, though, to please the outdated writers and outdated readers.


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I do think having a non-kryptonian supergirl is dumb as hell.




No it's not.

Just because her name's Supergirl doesn't mean she HAS to be Kryptonian.

Again, what's so hard to understand in the very simple concept of Superman that gives people trouble?

One Kryptonian survives the destruction of an entire planet... why is it so hard to get?

Re: Marvel Family.

Ah... I thought it was the other way around...


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Supe's is the Last Son of Krypton..he thinks that he is the sole survivor..is he omniscient?

Unlike readers he actually pays attention to the history of his planet and knows that the only reason he survived it was because of his father's invention (the serum).

I know that concept pisses a lot of fans because it's too complicated (not really, it's extremely easy to understand) and different from what happened in the SA that they don't want it

After all, such an idea stops such a character from Dev-Em, the neighboor that survived in the tool shed, from being a Kryptonian (he's a Daxamite now).

Anything that does such a thing is bad


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Little miniature people don't count......

Anyway I don't think anyone wants Silver Age Superman MOTA..it already existed..well maybe KK. Everyone, but everyone however does disagree with your petty lone kryptonin crap and adherrance to YOUR continuity.


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Ok So Dev Em survived in a Daxamite
Tool shed now.

I bet the Shed STILL came From
Home Depot, though.......


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Little miniature people don't count......

Anyway I don't think anyone wants Silver Age Superman MOTA..it already existed..well maybe KK. Everyone, but everyone however does disagree with your petty lone kryptonin crap and adherrance to YOUR continuity.




Not my continuity, that's the concept.

I still don't see why it's so hard for people to understand it.

Rocketed from the doom planet Krypton, the last son of Krypton, only one of his kind, etc.

In comes Mort and fucks up with it to make it more sellable to the simple minded children of the 60's and now that those children are simple minded writers those concepts are coming back...

It's actually pretty sad that instead of telling good stories these "writers" will sidetrackt he comics to rehash a past that should be forgotten for being too damn stupid.


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Ok So Dev Em survived in a Daxamite
Tool shed now.

I bet the Shed STILL came From
Home Depot, though.......




:Lmao:

Thankfully he didn't need the tool shed anymore as there was nothing to survive, lol.


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Fuck it. I wish they'd destroy the whole fucking universe again and let you re-write the whole damn thing because then atleast they might reprint some good comics.

I think non-kryptonian Supergirl is dumb..true..

But honestly she could be a Daxamite for all I care as long as her name was kara and she had a similar personality. linda/matrix crap just doesn't get it though.

And you have to admit Superman's history is just as damn confusing now, if not moreso, than it ever was pre-crisis.
If you say anything but yes to that then you're in denial.


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I have NOW created a Portal to a reality
in which Kal El is Named Bob. Krypton is
now called Bob, too. The Kents are Bob.
kyrpton is Bob, Earth is Bob.
Anyway, Bob got sent to Bob when Bob
exploded. Bob found Bob. Bob gained
amazing Super powers and shit like that
under Bob's yellow sun.

Somehow, that sounds Less confusing than
the Past 60 - plus years of Supermans'
existance, when view from start to Present.

Bob Loves you...


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Little miniature people don't count......

Anyway I don't think anyone wants Silver Age Superman MOTA..it already existed..well maybe KK. Everyone, but everyone however does disagree with your petty lone kryptonin crap and adherrance to YOUR continuity.




Not my continuity, that's the concept.

I still don't see why it's so hard for people to understand it.

Rocketed from the doom planet Krypton, the last son of Krypton, only one of his kind, etc.

In comes Mort and fucks up with it to make it more sellable to the simple minded children of the 60's and now that those children are simple minded writers those concepts are coming back...

It's actually pretty sad that instead of telling good stories these "writers" will sidetrackt he comics to rehash a past that should be forgotten for being too damn stupid.




Simple minded children??? Hahhahahahahahhahahahhahahahahah.


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And you have to admit Superman's history is just as damn confusing now, if not moreso, than it ever was pre-crisis.
If you say anything but yes to that then you're in denial.




It's only confusing if you go into it thinking it's confusing.

The history is actually quite simple to understand long as you don't go into it with any preconceptions...


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