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Originally posted by Rob Kamphausen:
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Originally posted by KMT:
Loeb killed Superman. Dini is like one of three people (Donner and Puzo being the others) who's ever really gotten Superman right.
the important phrase to add, here, is "to you." i find that both of them gave superman and batman a wonderfully human quality i've not seen equalled, and one that i find necessary to an enjoyable character.
Actually, if you stick any issue of Jeph Loeb's Superman run under an electron microscope, you can see it sucks right down to the subatomic level.

It's a fact.

Loeb's Superman is everything that Superman shouldn't be. He's weak. Not physically, mind you, but down deep where it counts. He doesn't have the courage of his convictions. He doesn't have what it takes to be a hero.

His biggest concern in life is how people view him. He's always worried that if he speaks his mind and does what needs to be done, people will resent him for it. He isn't willing to make tough choices.

And, when those choices are made for him, he bemoans his fate.

In short, he's a fucking pussy.

There is nothing admirable about him. He would, in fact, be despicable if he wasn't so damn pathetic.

This is Jeph Loeb's fault.

Loeb looks at Superman and sees the same problems that everyone else at DC does. Superman's the kind of guy who can move the earth from it's orbit if a meteor the size of Texas is about to slam into the eastern seaboard.

He's basically a God.

How do you make someone like that interesting? How do you make him relateable to readers?

Loeb's solution is to bring him down to our level.

He made Superman's life mundane.

He doesn't understand that Superman is an iconic character. Superman is someone who should inspire us. We should want to be just like Superman.

Can anyone here honestly say they'd want to be Loeb's Superman for a day?