quote:Originally posted by Dave: I looked for the "Hulk smash Freddie Prinze Jr" reference, but at no stage does the Hulk actually say that. Which is a shame, as its quite a funny line.
It's on the last page of the issue where the Hulk first appears in real time(i.e not in a flashback). Like #5 or #6.
quote:Pop culture references put the book in its place, as being contemporary. It stands out from the seemingless timeless/ageless irrelevance of the regular Avengers book. Its very "now", and relevant.
It dates it, but it certainly doesn't make it any more "relevant". Now, if it actually dealth with issues and concerns of this era(like terrorism, or violence in schools, or homophobia), then it would be an updated and more relevant take.
The only real "issue" he touches on(albeit briefly, and in typical shock-shlock form), is spousal abuse, which the previous Avengers series discussed, as well.
quote:Millar is presenting a challenge to DC. The JLA continue to pretend to exist with 1950s moral strictures living in the 1980s or some unspecified decade so the material will not date. The Ultimates exist in a real universe, with famous people from that real universe, dealing with real issues.
Correct me if I'm wrong...but the latest arc involves aliens, doesn't it? How is that a "real issue"? How is it any different from what goes on in the JLA?
