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As we all know by now, there was a lot of controversy surrounding the dismissal of Mark Waid for some unknown writer of plays. We know the story, and there's been a huge upset from Marvel fans (and non-Marvel fans looking to bash Marvel). Well, here's more fuel for the fire.
Mark Waid was fired so as to not overshadow The Ultimate Fantastic Four.
While I personally did not care for his writing (I'm not a fan of Waid's at all), many people told me that his run on the FF was some of the best in years, and sales certainly seemed to reflect it (on an FF scale anyhow).
Then the firing, and the replacement, under the guise of making it more like a family sitcom, to coincide with the proposed direction for the movie which may never get made or released. Everyone bitches, everyone gripes, everyone ignores, but in the back of their heads, they've boycotted the new writer's FF.
A few months.
Suddenly, Marvel, Bendis and Millar swoop in and save the day! HEY! It's the Ultimate Fantastic Four! Look how successful Ult. X-Men, Ult. Spiderman and Ult. Avengers are! Hey, old FF fans! Pissed off that Waid was fired and good FF stories are soon to be a thing of the past? Worry no longer! Bendis and Millar are on the case!
It makes sense to me, anyhow. In the end, I don't care about the FF, Ultimate or otherwise.
Just a theory, though.
Discuss.
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Tower of Babel was good, but everything else SUCKED!! I hope he rots in hell.
Oh yeah...
You're absolutely right.
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Waid wrote JLA: Tower of Babel?
That was probably the worse piece of shit I have ever read in comics.
As for the theory.... who knows. I guess it makes sense. But Occam's Razor suggests that perhaps he was just fired because of the change in direction.
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Can someone point me to a webpage or something which can tell me about that proposal Waid and Morrison had to revamp Superman? I recall it had something to do with Lois and Clark's marriage being erased from her memory (and presumably the world's) but not from his, resulting in a new dynamic like the classic Lois-Clark-Superman love triangle of yesteryear.
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Thankfully, I have all the Ultimate Marvel stories already... they're called Essential Volumes! They're in black and white, and only 15 dollars for over 20 issues!
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But... Comics without colour are like a day without sunshine!
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quote: Originally posted by Danny: But... Comics without colour are like a day without sunshine!
Yeah, as much as I'd like to buy the Essential Volumes, I'm not because I want to see the stories in color.
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quote: Originally posted by Danny: But... Comics without colour are like a day without sunshine!
Sunshine's overrated.
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I'll admit that Bendis is good, as is Millar, but can't they get a new guy into the Ultimateverse to write this? As kick ass as U.S.M. is, Bendis's ultimate x-men hasn't done jack for me. Is DC's exclusive contracting really hurting Marvels talent pool that bad?
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quote: Originally posted by Stupid Dogg: I'll admit that Bendis is good, as is Millar, but can't they get a new guy into the Ultimateverse to write this? As kick ass as U.S.M. is, Bendis's ultimate x-men hasn't done jack for me. Is DC's exclusive contracting really hurting Marvels talent pool that bad?
You sound like my friend, he likes to bitch that Marvel is farming out all their books to the same three writers and a couple no-names.
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The irony here is that people were already calling Waid's work "Ultimate Fantastic Four."
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Waid's run is/was pretty good. The only reason I picked up Waid's run was b/c I saw Doctor Doom was there.
Mr. Nobody, I couldnt have said it better.
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. Nobody: quote: Originally posted by Stupid Dogg: I'll admit that Bendis is good, as is Millar, but can't they get a new guy into the Ultimateverse to write this? As kick ass as U.S.M. is, Bendis's ultimate x-men hasn't done jack for me. Is DC's exclusive contracting really hurting Marvels talent pool that bad?
You sound like my friend, he likes to bitch that Marvel is farming out all their books to the same three writers and a couple no-names.
Well, its true.
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Never said it wasn't. But every company seems to do it.
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Waid's run is/was pretty good. The only reason I picked up Waid's run was b/c I saw Doctor Doom was there.
Mr. Nobody, I couldnt have said it better.
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