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Originally posted by ManofTheAtom:
You do realize what you said, right?

"There's Elseworlds, but the problem with that is that they don't add anything to the character... unless we integrated, of course, but that's out of the question."

You do see the hidden meaning in that, right?

Let's translate it:

"There's Elseworlds, but they PROBLEM with that is that they don't add anything to the character... the stories are out of CONTINUITY so they might as well not count."
Heh! I thought you'd get it by now. I have no problem with immediate continuity. It helps the character grow. But, a continuity consistent of everything published each week for the past 17 years? No, thanks.
I'd prefer a "free continuity" where only what you want counts, but that's an impossible dream.
Congratulations on the way you avoided my point. You're getting better at it, I almost didn't notice.

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Originally posted by ManofTheAtom:
That's ANOTHER part of the problem. These whinners don't only want to tell THEIR versions of things but they want THEIR versions to be the OFFICIAL one, the one that OTHERS have to use and accept.
How's that different from what you want? You want the version YOU like to count.

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Originally posted by ManofTheAtom:
Neil Gaiman didn't need continuity OR an Elseworlds label to tell his Superman/Green Lantern story, he just told it, the end...
And I wish everyone would do that.

Wait, Waid's story also hasn't an Elseworld's label and it also isn't in continuity (at least not at the moment)... How's that different from what Gaiman did? Ah, that's right. You got inside Waid's mind and discovered his true purposes, I forgot. Sorry.

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Originally posted by ManofTheAtom:
If it's VITAL, very, very, very important for MY story to be the FIRST time that ___ happens and someone already did it before me, what I would do is find an OPENING in that version of the story where MY story might fit.

Maybe it fits one panel after that story ended, maybe it fits between panels, maybe it can predate that story, who knows? The point is that I'd try to find a place for my story to fit, without ONCE whinning because someone else beat me to it...
But suppouse there's no space for that. Let's say your idea is what happens the first time Superman laid eyes in Wonder Woman. But that's alredy stablished in another comic. In that comic they show the way he reacted and all. Your idea consists of a completely different reaction after the first glance.


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Originally posted by ManofTheAtom:
Who said those are mutually exclusive?
They can be, depending on the situation, like in my example above.