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Originally posted by I'm Not Mister Mxypltk:
EVEN if they were (I still think they're not) the story isn't as lenghty as Superman's is nowadays.
Since unlike Superman most of (for example) Alan Scott's stories that date back to the 1940's are still in continuity, I doubt that's true as even with the weekly schedule Alan's stories outnumber Superman's.

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How so? I don't remember much about Hawkworld (the mini) but I remember it was good and there was a big mess because of it.
Very simple.

Hawkworld mini took place in X timeframe and Hawkworld monthly took place in Y time frame, while Hawkman's time in the JLA took place in Z.

I believe that what happened was that Truman said that X took place in the past, allowing for Hawkman to be in Z, but then Mike Gold wanted Y to be set in the present, which completely disrupted Z, generating all the continuity problems.

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You missed the trail. It's very important because it explains how the public can trust Luthor after he bombed Metropolis.
A casual reader will tell you all that (and the trial)? I don't think so.
Well, if he's a casual reader then he won't care, that's what makes him CASUAL.

If he's a reader with honest interest in the character who wants to learn, then that's another story.

Statements like this make it sound like there's only two kinds of readers; those that follow the stories on a weekly/monthly basis and those that only read a comic every leap year, and that's not true, there's a THIRD kind of reader, the one that picks up a comic, becomes interested and, eventually, begins following the story every week/month.

Casual readers can become regular readers just like regular readers can become casual readers...

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The fact that there are messes worse than Luthor's doesn't make Luthor's mess any better.
I don't know about Doom or Red Skull (and I'm surprised you know about Waid's Red Skull, I thought you didn't like Waid). That's not the point here. Maybe if I read the Captain America comics published in the past 17 years we could discuss if he needs to be revamped or not. Right now we're talking about Superman.
I don't like the Waid that's writing BR, he killed the good Waid that wrote Flash and JLA Year One. This Waid is a a Silver Age fanboy with a hard on for Superman, a fanboy that thinks that Superman is a God (irony being what is it, that description fits Gog, a Waid creation, perfectly).

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So they didn't get gradually worse? In 1999 they started sucking, just like that?
In 99 they got completely derailed. One week things were one way and the next they changed.

Remember, before Eddie and Loeb came along, Luthor owned the Planet, then in ONE issue all of that changed. The building changed, the owner changed, the characters changed.

Things DID change in the blink of an eye, that can't be denied.

Read the comics, compare the continuity from Superman 150 to 151 and you'll see that the change was a very radical one.