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Originally posted by ManofTheAtom:
Since unlike Superman most of (for example) Alan Scott's stories that date back to the 1940's are still in continuity, I doubt that's true as even with the weekly schedule Alan's stories outnumber Superman's.
They do. Besides, for a long while every Superman comic was tied to the next, so there's barely any "free" space in that period. Alan Scott (for example) has lots of free space to spare.

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Originally posted by ManofTheAtom:
Very simple.

Hawkworld mini took place in X timeframe and Hawkworld monthly took place in Y time frame, while Hawkman's time in the JLA took place in Z.

I believe that what happened was that Truman said that X took place in the past, allowing for Hawkman to be in Z, but then Mike Gold wanted Y to be set in the present, which completely disrupted Z, generating all the continuity problems.
Ah. Was the Hawkworld series any good?

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Originally posted by ManofTheAtom:
Well, if he's a casual reader then he won't care, that's what makes him CASUAL.

If he's a reader with honest interest in the character who wants to learn, then that's another story.

Statements like this make it sound like there's only two kinds of readers; those that follow the stories on a weekly/monthly basis and those that only read a comic every leap year, and that's not true, there's a THIRD kind of reader, the one that picks up a comic, becomes interested and, eventually, begins following the story every week/month.

Casual readers can become regular readers just like regular readers can become casual readers...
Ah, I see. So, if I like a character like Superman and I wanna follow his weekly adventures, I must do a lot of research to understand the world he lives in. If I don't keep in mind stuff like Luthor's convulted story, something that has little importance nowadays, I'm being irresponsible as a regular reader.

Don't you think that the fact that Superman's continuity is so convulted has a lot to do with how little accesible the books are? The 1999 semi-revamp attracted a lot of people becuase it seemed to be a new beggining... but it wasn't, the old stuff is still there, they're just avoiding it (in most cases), and that's the problem. It can't be a real revamp unless the old stuff is wiped.

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Originally posted by ManofTheAtom:
I don't like the Waid that's writing BR, he killed the good Waid that wrote Flash and JLA Year One. This Waid is a a Silver Age fanboy with a hard on for Superman, a fanboy that thinks that Superman is a God (irony being what is it, that description fits Gog, a Waid creation, perfectly).
Well, you're a modern age fanboy with a hard on for Superman, one that thinks Superman is Man. What's the point? They're different points of view. Why is the one you like more valid than the Waid likes?

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Originally posted by ManofTheAtom:
In 99 they got completely derailed. One week things were one way and the next they changed.

Remember, before Eddie and Loeb came along, Luthor owned the Planet, then in ONE issue all of that changed. The building changed, the owner changed, the characters changed.

Things DID change in the blink of an eye, that can't be denied.

Read the comics, compare the continuity from Superman 150 to 151 and you'll see that the change was a very radical one.
Even before that the comics sucked. Even Kesel sucked. In fact, that's why the semi-revamp was done; the comics sucked big time. They sucked even more after that, I agree.