quote:Originally posted by ManofTheAtom: Spider-Man, the X-Men, Daredevil, Captain America and many more.
These are characters whose origins, unlike Superman's, date back to the 1960's. They have been modernized but never changed in a radical way, not how Waid is doing with BR right now.
MoS happened because, unlike Marvel, DC had made a mess of its continuity by having too many of them running around at the same time.
If Spider-Man can exist for over 40 years with only one origin which seldomly gets mentioned and when it is is only in passing and to modernize it slightly, why can't Superman have one that's only 17 years old?
Because Spidey's is very simplistic. It's "I'm a nerd. Oh, I've got superpowers. I fucked up. Now I'm a superhero." The rest of it is Spidey being Spidey.
DC has put too much into Supes's past before doning the cape and boots. Plus, Supes has appeared in more books over the years than Spidey. Superman has amassed more continuity in 17 years than Spidey has in 40.
quote:Originally posted by ManofTheAtom: Geoff Johns manages to make his stories work WITH continuity, other writers who feel they are above it can't handle it so they make it a mission in life to tell people how bad continuity is...
Johns has the luxury of handling all of his character's continuity at the moment (with the exception of Wally). He covers all the books that Jay Garrick, Impulse, Hawkman, Wildcat, and the other characters appear in regularly. Yes, a lot of Golden Age characters are popping up more and more across the DCU due to the JSA's popularity; but he still holds all the cards with them. As I said before, the continuity that Johns uses for the JSA actually comes from the 80's and not the 40's. That's given him a lot of levarge room for playing around with the likes of Jay Garrick, Alan Scott, and Black Adam.
The only one he had to worry about was Hawkman with the whole Thangarian thing. What he did was just as much circumventing continuity as much as it was adhereing to it. He played around with it and made a story that works and satisfies all the questions that DC has left in the air for years. Personally, I read the story and liked it too much to even ask, "Hey, I wonder if this is in line with DCU continuity for Hawkman. I'd better read all the old Hawkman and JLA back issues to make sure." Johns is good at making a good story and slightly twisting the characters to make them interesting for him.
Case in point. He hates it when Tim Drake just gets on the computer and does an internet search. That's a job for Barbara. Yet, that's what Dick has been written as doing over and over again for years. In the last issue of Teen Titans, Robin says he's going to get on the net. Instead he sneaks out. He changed the perspective of Tim Drake to fit his own personal philosophy of superheroes.
quote:Originally posted by ManofTheAtom: It's all in the ego...
