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Yes.

The Superman books achieved their peak of suckiness with the Berganza led:

Gang "O" 4.

Loeb, Schultz, Kelly, & Casey (plus a slew of "guest creators")

I wouldn't say that. The level of quality now is no different than the level of quality during the Jurgens era. It only FEELS worse because Loeb and company were so heavily touted as being the guys who were going to save Superman.

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The final insult was that after Loeb left (arguably the only real “Star” of the bunch) and the books became a bit more independent of each other Berganza bitched that he gave the fans what they wanted (independent books) and they STILL weren’t happy…

Insisting I guess that the Super-Star teams of Seagel, Kelly & Casey would be drawing the fans in by the droves.

The guy is completely disconnected from reality…

Carlin and Cavalieri would have said the exact same thing. After all, they along with Berganza are dead-set against DC rocking the boat and shaking up its ways of doing business, and Berganza's clearly inherited both men's worst editing traits.

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From issue to issue you were never sure what exactly you were reading or looking at because from book to book you not only had a physically different looking cast of characters and (depending on the writers “take” on the character) you would find a heroic Superman, a confused Superman, or a weepy lost Superman.
The latter two being the most common.

And I'd like apologize for turning this thread into another "Superman's sucked since the mid-'90s" thread. That wasn't my intent when I originally posted.... [no no no]