The conclusion of page 1 of the previous topic (part 3):



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Dave the Wonder Boy,
posted October 21, 2001 03:00 AM
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Originally posted by Steven Utley:
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batwoman, I know how you feel about sex before marriage, but what about war?
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Do you think people should wait until they're married to go into combat?
Is extra-marital combat a sin?
What about pre-martial sex?
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Set us straight, babe.


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No war before marriage?
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A guy has to live a little before he dies. He has to live, because he hasn't lived long enough to have a life yet.
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And conversely, a guy with a wife and kids has too much to live for to die.
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So who fights, who dies?





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Lildeath,
Member posted October 21, 2001 04:30 PM :
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Practically speaking, however, the opposite argument could also be made, that men who have already sired children should be the ones to throw themselves on the grenades and go to war. They're the ones that have already contributed to the gene pool, after all.
Poor, virginal Private Bob, on the other hand, is only eighteen and hasn't made his contribution yet.
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Now, somebody's gonna come up with some argument regarding survival of the fittest, and how war can be used as a tool to weed out the weak (I have super-hearing when it comes to people saying that ... I can hear it in New Jersey). Poppycock. The healthy kids get drafted and chewed up by tanks, the sick kids stay home and make babies. Violence as a method of natural selection is a failure, I'm afraid. Now somebody tell the cheerleaders.
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Perhaps part of the problem is that we're obsessed with keeping our superheroes young. Even Superman and Batman are about the same age as the characters on Friends (and younger than the cast).
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You would think, since most superheroes have powers that make them physically tougher than normal people, that the prime age for superheroing would be around the age of fifty or so. That's old enough to have raised a family. You've made your contribution to the gene pool, now you can out and risk your life more responsibly.
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Y'see what I mean?
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"Great Krypton! Allen Funt's caught me switching into my Superman uniform!"
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Iron Sun
Member posted October 21, 2001 09:57 PM:
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Actually, Lildeath, in a way war is a natural selection against war.
Why?
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The first people who go to the front lines are professional soldiers, namely those who want to fight to defend the country.
Next to go up are the young men who were drafted and were willing to fight.
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Those who have strong beliefs against war will choose to be conscientious objectors. Namely they'll be given non-combat duty.
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Finally, the ones left who will never go to war are the ones too sick to fight, or who are smart enough to figure a way around the draft but stay in the country.
And finally those who go to other countries to dodge the draft.
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The bottom line is the ones most likely to be killed are those who are most likely to be involved in war.
And those least likely to die are those who avoid war at all costs.
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Eventually we'll breed ourselves into pacifists.
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Steven Utley,
posted October 21, 2001 10:15 PM
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In a world where wealth is equitably distributed, we'd all have daddies who could get us cushy duty.






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William A. Owens,
unregistered, posted October 21, 2001 11:26 PM:
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Lois and Clark...
Kyle and Jade...
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Pete and Mary-Jane...
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Dick and Babs...
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Bruce and Talia (They had a child in Son of the Demon)...
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You just ain't payin' attention, Bub...





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JerichoFan,
posted October 21, 2001 11:54 PM
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Originally posted by Iron Sun:
The bottom line is the ones most likely to be killed are those who are most likely to be involved in war and those least likely to die are those who avoid war at all costs. Eventually we'll breed ourselves into pacifists.


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Except that genes only code for proteins, not political beliefs, so we won't be able to breed ourselves into pacifists. We might be able to breed ourselves into weak, unhealthy mental midgets* because the (physically) strongest of our gene pool got killed off in a war, though. Not something I'd look forward to, personally.
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(*based on your correct statement that most of those left out of the war, besides objectors, are those unfit for service, either mentally or physically.)




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Shazamgrrl,
posted October 22, 2001 12:06 AM
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I was going to say something about Pt. 2's disappearance, but I'm in a reasonably good mood, so I won't.
There's a tiny bit of controversy on the Captain Marvel boards about whether or not Mary Marvel would still be a virgin if Mary Batson made love (and vice versa).
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I still say that due to her unique nature (she rarely referred to her other form as "she"), if one got some, the other would also not be virgo intacto.
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"Did she say "APPLESAUCE"?!"
-- Mr. Mind, The Incredible Sinking City
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Join the Capt. Marvel Jr. Club at: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/captainmarveljr and the Mary Marvel Club at: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/marymarvel
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Thanks for the dance, but I never French kiss on the first date.
-- Captain Marvel, from The Yucatan Adventure, by me.





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Lildeath,
Member posted October 22, 2001 02:22 AM:
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For some screwy reason, I've been thinking a lot about martial arts lately.
Dunno why.
'Cause all this fighting's going on all the time? Maybe.
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Anyway, there's one funny thing that everybody that's ever taught me anything on the subject of fighting seems to agree on. My dad, Sensei Kinion, Leighgion, my freaky Special Forces roommate ... sooner or later, they all mention the same thing.
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The toughest people in the world, the ones who can basically splatter people at will, never fight. Ever.
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At a certain level, every fight is considered a sign of weakness. Every confrontation is an admission of cowardice.
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Trippy, huh? I still don't get it, really. Probably 'cause I don't think I'm getting to that level in this lifetime. In the chess game of life, I'm not even on the board.
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Still, it's something to think about.
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"Great Krypton! Allen Funt's caught me switching into my Superman uniform!"
-- the cover of Action Comics #345






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NeoMotion,
Member posted October 22, 2001 05:33 AM :
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You see, this has always bothered me. HOW can Superman have sex?
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1) He is alien, so God knows what the reaction would do to Lois. She might die delivering a freak mutant/monster or whatever it would be.
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2) Being Superman, if he came, he would shoot his semen right through Lois.
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So I do not see how that is possible. Any comments?
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"Sung in the cathedrals, whispered in the shadows...ever unchanging, seldom unchanged...bright incandescence, the black of the pit...
such is the stuff of Legends"
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Richey,
posted October 22, 2001 10:01 AM:

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Kryptonite spermicide?
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If he pulled out he would shoot holes in the wall! Bwaa-hah-haa!
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Here's a good one - seeing as most (I think around 2 thirds) of American men of Supes' age are circumcised, how could they do that to him?
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Even when he was a baby he was invulnerable, so the surgeon would never have been able to whip it off. So I guess Superman would be a Cavalier and not a Roundhead.






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Lildeath,
posted October 22, 2001 02:07 PM:
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I can't speak for old continuity, but that was in a time that Superman wouldn't have been likely to be circumcised anyway.
In current continuity, Superman's powers didn't develop until he was older. Though his invulnerability seems to have been the first of his powers to appear, and was sufficient to keep him from being trampled to death by a charging bull at the age of six, he also managed to break his arm when he was about three or four, I think.
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As for the business with Superman's high-pressure ejaculation, there's never been any evidence to indicate that this would be the case. He doesn't cause hurricanes every time he breathes, does he? Not unless he wants to, at any rate. His sweat doesn't go zinging out of his pores, does it?
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It would appear that most of Superman's biological functions work pretty normal, albeit much better and more efficient than a normal person's.
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Regarding the possibility of Superman and Lois having children, I would suspect that it wouldn't be possible without some sort of help. Fortunately, they have the Fortress of Solitude, created by the technology of a species that was obsessed with cloning and scientific reproduction. The Eradicator, who made the Fortress, is apparently obsessed with preserving Kryptonian life, and so must have a few schemes in mind for making more of it.
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Also, I bet there's something in the birthing matrix that might help. Jor-El was a pretty smart guy, after all, and must've anticipated this problem coming up. No doubt, there's something in there that'll be of use.
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"Great Krypton! Allen Funt's caught me switching into my Superman uniform!"
-- the cover of Action Comics #345




And that concludes page 1. The floor is open for comments.