From "Why Don't Superheroes have sex?", Part 3,
the first half of page 2:

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batwoman,
posted October 22, 2001 11:07 PM:
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Originally posted by Lildeath:
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"For some screwy reason, I've been thinking a lot about martial arts lately. Dunno why. 'Cause all this fighting's going on all the time? Maybe.
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Anyway, there's one funny thing that everybody that's ever taught me anything on the subject of fighting seems to agree on.
My dad, Sensei Kinion, Leighgion, my freaky Special Forces roommate ... sooner or later, they all mention the same thing.
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The toughest people in the world, the ones who can basically splatter people at will, never fight. Ever.
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At a certain level, every fight is considered a sign of weakness. Every confrontation is an admission of cowardice.
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Trippy, huh? I still don't get it, really. Probably 'cause I don't think I'm getting to that level in this lifetime. In the chess game of life, I'm not even on the board.
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Still, it's something to think about."



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You know, come to think of it, I can only think of one actual fight that one of the many martial artists I know was in. That was my older bro and that was only after 3 punks jumped him while he was in his car. Man, I wish I was there to see that, it was a good fight from what I've heard.
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As to the comics aspect, how do you explain all the heroes that know martial arts and use them while in batlle? For that matter, what about, say, Lady Shiva? They use their fighting skills all the time, yet according to what you've said, that would make them cowards...





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Lildeath,
posted October 23, 2001 01:19 AM:
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In Lady Shiva's case? Sure, no problem. She's a grown woman, a trained killer, challenging teenage girls to deathmatches. This is not exactly the height of courage, here.
Besides, I can't really say I understand the idea that well. Not even enough to express it properly. It's just been on my mind lately, y'know?
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"Great Krypton! Allen Funt's caught me switching into my Superman uniform!"
-- the cover of Action Comics #345



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Iron Sun,
posted October 23, 2001 05:34 PM :
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I understand the concept. Think about your typical bar fight. Its usually about 2 drunks trying to prove how they're "real" men.
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The fear is not fear of the fight, but fear of seeming less in the eyes of your peers. You're afraid to look like a wimp, coward etc. so you fight. Its takes more bravery to walk away and not care if others think you're not strong than to get in the fight.

A true expert in fighting doesn't need to prove himself, but even more so, it takes courage and a certain higher level of thinking to walk away and not sink to the level of the one threatening you.





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Dave the Wonder Boy,
posted October 27, 2001 12:51 AM :

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Here are links to the previous incarnations of this thread:
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Part 1:
http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/files/Forum94/HTML/005183-2.html
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and
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Part 2:
http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/files/Forum94/HTML/009504-2.html
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batwoman,
Member posted October 27, 2001 12:54 AM:
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Thanks Dave!




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TOBOR8,
posted October 30, 2001 07:57 PM:
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Originally posted by Dave the Wonder Boy:
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"Here are links to the previous incarnations of this thread:
Part 1...
Part 2... "



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Dave, how long did it take to find them?




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Dave the Wonder Boy,
posted October 30, 2001 10:49 PM :
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Not long at all.
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I keep a composition notebook, and write down the threads I enjoy most, so I don't have to constantly go through endless pages of topics to find them.
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I write them like this:
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Superhero Sex thread, part 1
5183
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Part 2
9504
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All DC UNIVERSE/ODCU topics begin with: http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/files/Forum94/HTML/00----.html
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In the last four blanks before [.html] at the end is the part that specifies the thread, and page of the thread. Plugging in [5183.html] takes you to page 1 of the first thread. Plugging in [5183-2.html] takes you directly to page 2 of the thread. Plugging in [5183-37.html] takes you directly to page 37. And so on. It's not hard.
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If I don't write down a 4-digit thread number, it's a lot harder.
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Getting back to sex, I think the current Dark Age of comics might open the door to a lot of wild and bizarre superhero sex, which has never really been explored in the 60-plus year history of superheroes.
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I actually prefer half-baked tongue in cheek innuendo to a deep exploration of superhero sex, although in the right creative hands, it could be a fun or even thought provoking story idea.
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Maybe a story with Sue Dibney or Sue Richards waking up with a very contented smile on their face, having their super-elastic husband step out of the next room in a silk robe with a breakfast tray, giving veiled reference to the satisfyingly wild and impossible contortions that went on the night before.
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Brody's ramblings in Mallrats, about the Thing's thing, and Mr Fantastic's elastic endowment were questions that occurred to me, and I think most fans, from the time I began reading comics, almost 30 years ago.
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But the mystery of these secrets, I think, are more intriguing than a fully realized story explaining them would be. "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex" and Mallrats both seem to realize preserving a degree of mystery when answering these questions.





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batwoman,
posted October 30, 2001 11:04 PM :
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What about all the innuendos that were made during Giffen's JLI? Now you've done it. I can't get that image out of my head. LOL That would be so funny.





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batwoman,
posted October 30, 2001 11:07 PM:
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Originally posted by Dave the Wonder Boy:
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"I actually prefer half-baked tongue in cheek innuendo to a deep exploration of superhero sex, although in the right creative hands, it could be a fun or even thought provoking story idea. "



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I agree.
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TOBOR8,
posted October 30, 2001 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by Dave the Wonder Boy:
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"Not long at all.
I keep a composition notebook..."



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Thank you, Dave.





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xdestroymyfivex,
posted October 31, 2001 01:03 AM:
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I'm reminded of the armageddon superman annuals... i think maxima understood, beyond the genetic level, the need for metahumans and the like to have comparable levels of powers. how on earth could superman get any pleasure out of gettin' it on with lois if he can't exert himself?
or, yknow, wouldn't she get crushed or ripped to shreds at the conclusion of such a sexual episode? i'd really like to think otherwise but i just can't see it working...





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Dave the Wonder Boy,
posted October 31, 2001 01:26 AM:
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Originally posted by Dave the Wonder Boy:
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"Maybe a story with Sue Dibney or Sue Richards waking up with a very contented smile on their face, having their super-elastic husband step out of the next room in a silk robe with a breakfast tray, giving veiled reference to the satisfyingly wild and impossible contortions that went on the night before. "


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Despite my saying it's better left unsaid, come on, admit it, we'd all like to see it attempted.
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I doubt seriously it would live up to expectations, but would be fun to see it attempted.
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Many undergrounds have done unofficial versions. I'd guess as explicit as they can do without getting sued.
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I've never read CHERRY (the pornographic Archie spoof) but it's out there.
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The best I've seen, as I said early in the first Sex Thread (Part 1), is XXXENOPHILE.
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Another in the 1981 underground, ALIEN ENCOUNTERS, had a spoof by Mike Zeck of Superman's origin, where his parents were named Lyk-Ter and Klyt-Sor. But no sex.
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I think anyone who messes with Superman's phallus is in for a super-duper legal castration.




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NEW MEMBER,
posted October 31, 2001 10:36 AM :
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Ya know, I just thought of something a little different.
Let's say that a DC "Special Graphic" got the go ahead to include "real bedroom activity".
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How would you want it accomplished?
A couple of panels? a couple of pages, or
much of the book?
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Simple stuff or "evolution" in activity?
If it were Diana & Clark, her ripping off his clothes? Ripping off each others'?
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Someday, it may happen (rrriigghhhtttt.).
If so, "instruct" your future writer/artist
on how you want it accomplished.





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Dave the Wonder Boy,
posted October 31, 2001 02:16 PM :
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An extremely graphic Graphic Novel.
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batwoman,
posted October 31, 2001 10:46 PM
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LOL
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