quote:Originally posted by bsams: His intentions? Like maybe he accidently anally raped a 13 year old girlor he thought it would be good for her?
Or she wanted him to have sex with her, or he thought she wanted him to have sex with her. I don't know. There are many, many possibilities. All possibilities do still make him a statutory rapist, and a criminal, but do they all make him an evil person(remember, I'm not debating the criminal part)? How many people here saw this thread and thought about having sex with Hilary Duff(who was only 15 at the time, and looked practically the same when she was 14 and starred in her Disney show)? Imagine you were rich, famous, and had the chance to have her? C'mon, be honest.
quote:Originally posted by Rob Kamphausen: but you're OK if he won major public awards because he had the country's best gas station? or bank? you feel its OK to recognize a teacher for his achievements, despite the fact that he's a wanted criminal, whose crimes include sex with a minor?
But isn't having the best gas station or bank a question of efficiency and courtesy, rather than a question of art?
quote:sexual acts shared between a father (figure) and a daughter (figure) is wrong. that should not be up for debate. its not speculation, its not bigotry, its wrong, plain and simple.
Again, this is exactly the way homophobes felt about gay relationships. They felt it was wrong, and that there should be absolutely no question that it was wrong. They weren't being narrow minded, they were simply right, end of story. Period.
One (hopefully)last time. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't want it done to me. I can also say that about homosexuality. Doesn't mean homosexuality is wrong.
You seem to be adamant in believing that Woody Allen violated her. How do you know? What proof do you have? Nude pictures, which were taken when she was 21(and that has been verified)? What does that show? That Woody Allen was in love with somebody(and vice versa) 35 years older than he was.
The rest of your argument is based purely on assumption. You can't prove that he did anything to her. You can't prove he touched her, or used his status as her father figure to sway her emotions when she was too young to see otherwise.
If you can produce real evidence that he did something like that, then I'll say what he did was wrong. Until then, I maintain that he's done nothing wrong.
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: He's a criminal, by his own admission. Criminals shouldn't have the right to chose their punishments.
You're absolutely right, they shouldn't.
quote:Yes, six whole weeks institutionalized makes up for the fact that he raped a 13 year-old girl and emotionally scarred her for life. The fact that he can't come back to the U.S. or make all the movies he wants really does even out for perpetrating an act that has been known to ruin people's lives and even drive some to suicide.
quote:no, it doesn't excuse him, no, you shouldn't(and I'm sure you won't) feel sorry for him, and no, he's not living in poverty.
